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johna1   4

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Everyone: I am filling out the N-400 for my Dad. My dad is eligible for the 55/15 Rule ( Can take the Civics test in native Language. The question I have is that My dad stayed away from the U.S in 2010 for about 9 months, and continued to stay here in the U.S all throughout the year 2011 and 2012. He has been a green card holder since 1998. Staying away as long as 9 months, would that be a problem OR not shown in the application and pretend that we forgot to put it down. The reason I said this was, one of my cousin who has been here for the past 5 years, and spent more than 2.5 years overseas for school, and got away with it by not placing it on his N-400? All suggestions and opinions welcomed..

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Everyone: I am filling out the N-400 for my Dad. My dad is eligible for the 55/15 Rule ( Can take the Civics test in native Language. The question I have is that My dad stayed away from the U.S in 2010 for about 9 months, and continued to stay here in the U.S all throughout the year 2011 and 2012. He has been a green card holder since 1998. Staying away as long as 9 months, would that be a problem OR not shown in the application and pretend that we forgot to put it down. The reason I said this was, one of my cousin who has been here for the past 5 years, and spent more than 2.5 years overseas for school, and got away with it by not placing it on his N-400? All suggestions and opinions welcomed..

9 months would've paused his physical presence clock, but I guess he's seems to be well over the 30 months (over the last 5 years) physical presence requirement so it shouldn't be an issue. Should he has stayed more than a year, his 5-year counter would've reset.

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mozplay   29

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And don't lie. Ever. Nobody here will advise you to lie or 'forget' to write something down.

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Brother Hesekiel   2,236

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Your cousin is an idiot. Not only did he falsely make a sworn statement on a government form as important as it gets, he also made another false statement under oath in front of a federal law enforcement officer. If this ever comes out, even 40 years from now, they will strap him over a chair and insert a 10-foot pole into you know what and ram it in so deep that the blood is going to spill out of his mouth. Thereafter they will strip him of his citizenship and kick his sorry behind back to India.

If you are cool with that kind of behavior within your family, you may as well go around raping a young girl. Hey, what are the odds that they will find out if you do it only once?

A 9-month absence has no bearing on your father's ability to naturalize. A false statement would.

Tell your cousin that it's people like him who give Indians a bad name. I wish him the worst in life.

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all . . . . The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic . . . . There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

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nwctzn   55

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Everyone: I am filling out the N-400 for my Dad. My dad is eligible for the 55/15 Rule ( Can take the Civics test in native Language. The question I have is that My dad stayed away from the U.S in 2010 for about 9 months, and continued to stay here in the U.S all throughout the year 2011 and 2012. He has been a green card holder since 1998. Staying away as long as 9 months, would that be a problem OR not shown in the application and pretend that we forgot to put it down. The reason I said this was, one of my cousin who has been here for the past 5 years, and spent more than 2.5 years overseas for school, and got away with it by not placing it on his N-400? All suggestions and opinions welcomed..

Repeat after me three times:

Don't ever lie to the USCIS!

Don't ever lie to the USCIS!

Don't ever lie to the USCIS!

And did I mention it before?

Don't ever lie to the USCIS!

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nwctzn   55

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A 9-month absence has no bearing on your father's ability to naturalize. A false statement would.

Tell your cousin that it's people like him who give Indians a bad name. I wish him the worst in life.

So what happens to this cousin once his US citizenship is revoked? I guess he becomes without any nationality since he is not a citizen of India anymore after becoming a US citizen (India does not allow multi-citizenship). So I guess sending the cousin back to India is not an option.

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johna1   4

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Thanks Everyone for the reply. Unfortunately, tons of people get away with a lot of things. This person who got away with his citizenship for not being here for 5 years happened to be lucky. I would not say he lied, he knew what he was doing, and he got away with it because ISO was not doing his properly. Simple as that..

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nwctzn   55

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Thanks Everyone for the reply. Unfortunately, tons of people get away with a lot of things. This person who got away with his citizenship for not being here for 5 years happened to be lucky. I would not say he lied, he knew what he was doing, and he got away with it because ISO was not doing his properly. Simple as that..

If you do not put down an absence on the N-400 form it is a lie, period. Because it means that you state that you were in the US for that time period. A lie is a lie. Simple as that...

And yes, this person got away this time. That does not mean that he is safe. Just do some research on revoked citizenships and you will see what happens if it is discovered that he lied on his N-400 form.

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Thanks Everyone for the reply. Unfortunately, tons of people get away with a lot of things. This person who got away with his citizenship for not being here for 5 years happened to be lucky. I would not say he lied, he knew what he was doing, and he got away with it because ISO was not doing his properly. Simple as that..

You wouldn't say he lied.... but he knew what he was doing!!??? So....he puts false information intentionally....not even by mistake...and what part of that is not lying??

If you came on this forum expecting people to tell you it's a great idea to omit or falsify information.....you're probably on the wrong forum.....

Most people here have had to jump through hoops to become a USC.....!!!

Old and Grumpy....But an American Citizen!!!

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I agree with you guys every bit. However, it still surprises me that how he got away with it. We are not talking about days or months. Its years. How in the world ISO did not know. They have the access to all this information. anyway,, it is the past now

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nwctzn   55

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I agree with you guys every bit. However, it still surprises me that how he got away with it. We are not talking about days or months. Its years. How in the world ISO did not know. They have the access to all this information. anyway,, it is the past now

If this is indeed true it is a very very isolated case and must have been fallen through the cracks. We know of people being declined just because they were missing a few days!!! Your cousin should be on the edge since if this is discovered his citizenship will be taken away for sure no matter how many years have passed.

Anyway, I am repeating what I posted earlier in a clearer way: Don't be stupid and never lie on government forms and to government officials!

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No, you should never lie on govt forms

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Naturalization

9/9: Mailed N-400 package off

9/11: Arrived at Dallas, TX

9/17: NOA

9/19: Check cashed

9/23: Received NOA

10/7: Text from USCIS on status update: Biometrics in the mail

10/9: Received Biometrics letter

10/29: Biometrics

10/31: In-line

2/16: Text from USCIS that Baltimore has scheduled an interview...finally!!

2/24: Interview letter received

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