F-1 Application in AP

[Zoldar 0]

I'm Egyptian. I did my interview last july at the consulate. the woman i did my interview at is known to be a pain and gives people a hard time. She interviewed me and didnt ask much, and then told me im going into administrative processing. after 4 months, they finally changed my status to "please send in your passport". I sent my passport in, a week later my status was turned into "Administrative processing". I called the consulate and was told that it has entered new AP, because new info came in. ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?! What kind of new info came in, nothing new came up on my part at all.

I already had to defer my Fall 2012 semester because I Didnt get my visa in time, and now from the looks of it, dont think i'll be able to go to spring 2013 which starts on 28 of january. Today is 29th of decemeber. I havent booked a flight ticket, dorms, paid tuition and fees, arranged a withdrawal with my home university. I need to be there on the 20th otherwise I miss this semester as well and will lose total admission to the university. Because i've already deferred before.

I heard that consulars through 221G can use their powers to re-adjudicate visas, which is what I think has been done to me. Can you guys help me as to how to get this visa going. shouldnt cases be treated by case by case basis? and prioritized and not neglected like that?

I need help in getting my visa within 20 days, anything that can be done. something I might be missing. re-applying for a new f-1 maybe? They dont even want to tell me what kind of administrative processing is being done god damn it...

[sweetlymystic 19]

Seriously...i understand your frustration...but bringing God into your words in vain...isnt the best words...he is the only one in control of this plan....Hope you think wisely of your words..Gold Luck

[canadian_wife 1,822]

Oh wow, ok. Just relax.

What you have to remember is that you have no rights to a student visa. I know it is frustrating, but being granted a student visa is a privledge. I am sure the school sees this stuff all the time so asking for a deferral until summer semester won't be a big deal.

AP can last a long time and is common with people from Egypt, I am sure you were aware of this going in and should have expected it

good luck

[Christina_Joseph 0]

Have you tried contacting the embassy or the department/area/office that handles visa's for Student Visa's? There are many people who work at the embassy and I know many people that went to the "back door".... other side of the Embassy and spoke to some-one and was able to get a status on there case. Although, I am sure they prefer you dont do it. But since you are in so much of a rush, that is what I suggest.

[Noah Lot 391]

I'm Egyptian. I did my interview last july at the consulate. the woman i did my interview at is known to be a pain and gives people a hard time. She interviewed me and didnt ask much, and then told me im going into administrative processing. after 4 months, they finally changed my status to "please send in your passport". I sent my passport in, a week later my status was turned into "Administrative processing". I called the consulate and was told that it has entered new AP, because new info came in. ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?! What kind of new info came in, nothing new came up on my part at all.

I already had to defer my Fall 2012 semester because I Didnt get my visa in time, and now from the looks of it, dont think i'll be able to go to spring 2013 which starts on 28 of january. Today is 29th of decemeber. I havent booked a flight ticket, dorms, paid tuition and fees, arranged a withdrawal with my home university. I need to be there on the 20th otherwise I miss this semester as well and will lose total admission to the university. Because i've already deferred before.

I heard that consulars through 221G can use their powers to re-adjudicate visas, which is what I think has been done to me. Can you guys help me as to how to get this visa going. shouldnt cases be treated by case by case basis? and prioritized and not neglected like that?

I need help in getting my visa within 20 days, anything that can be done. something I might be missing. re-applying for a new f-1 maybe? They dont even want to tell me what kind of administrative processing is being done god damn it...

With that attitude, you will likely be in AP for years....the US of A does not OWE you a visa...and given the number of bad guys in that part of the world, well, AP is just gonna take as long as it takes. Save your blasphemy for an audience who cares.

[sweetlymystic 19]

With that attitude, you will likely be in AP for years....the US of A does not OWE you a visa...and given the number of bad guys in that part of the world, well, AP is just gonna take as long as it takes. Save your blasphemy for an audience who cares.

[Zoldar 0]

I apologize if I seemed rude. The US does not owe me a visa, however I deserve a more humane process. If the US finds a criminal/terrorist in 1 for every 1,000 applicants then it is worth the administrative processing. But what about the other 999 that get in the system. Why isnt there a better indexing system to get more info? It's said on their statement on the consulate that cases of students will be treated as special cases and hopefully a visa would be issued in time. I've missed a semester already, I've submitted everything I needed to. I understand that it might take a long process, but I believe I deserve to know what's the hold back or if I can be contacted and told that it wont be done before "X time" so i can make other plans and not deal with the frustration of uncertainty for the last 5 months.

[canadian_wife 1,822]

You sound very entitled, you do not deserve the right to go to the US not deserve to be privy to their background checks

This is common for people from Egypt

Good luck

[Noah Lot 391]

I apologize if I seemed rude. The US does not owe me a visa, however I deserve a more humane process. If the US finds a criminal/terrorist in 1 for every 1,000 applicants then it is worth the administrative processing. But what about the other 999 that get in the system. Why isnt there a better indexing system to get more info? It's said on their statement on the consulate that cases of students will be treated as special cases and hopefully a visa would be issued in time. I've missed a semester already, I've submitted everything I needed to. I understand that it might take a long process, but I believe I deserve to know what's the hold back or if I can be contacted and told that it wont be done before "X time" so i can make other plans and not deal with the frustration of uncertainty for the last 5 months.

You deserve zilch. Just ask the relatives and friends of the folks killed in the Sept 11th attack...do you think they give a camel's phart about whether you have to wait X weeks or Y weeks to gain access to the United States of America? Sure. And why do you think that YOU should receive a detailed explanation from MY government as to why your case (and many others') is being held aside for AP? Why should MY government compromise their focus on security because you are unhappy? I cannot think of one single reason.

If you don't like the way the United States of America conducts its business, then please, by all means, stay as far away from MY country as possible and go study in some other country (or whatever else you might be planning to do)...none of us (American citizens) care. Your problems are your problems, not ours. If bad guys exist by the carload in your part of the world, then too bad. We, the citizens of the United States of America, want to preserve the integrity of our borders, and maintain the safety of our citizenry....if that means that somebody from some part of the world that harbors bad guys is delayed, or is unhappy, well, too bad. Life is tough. There are no universities in Cairo???? What's wrong with the American University? Or others?

Bottom line: everything you have posted has fallen on totally deaf ears (as far as any of us offering any solution....if I had one, I would never share it with anyone from the sandbox countries of the world, under any circumstance.....why? Because none of us knows who you really are, and what true motivation you have for coming to the US of A. You have a nice day.

[Zoldar 0]

Over 150 days of administrative processing for a student visa seems kind of harsh, especially when time limit or deadline is given. People have lives and time is never on their side, at least for the most part. I've deferred my admission already, and I don't want to sit home. My deadline for payment is coming up soon and I dont know what to tell my university. I dont mind if the process for administrative processing is taking long, but i'd appreciate an update.

The US embassy's website claims that student visa are treated as priority cases and should have their visas processed within a timely manner to start their studies on time, I dont see any of this happening. Maybe I'm special case that needs further backgrond checks, I dont mind so long as I'm updated and notified if it will be done by the spring semester.

And by the way, My case was cleared from the office in DC and was told to send my passport in, but my consular decided to re-open my case and send it for further administrative processing. I know consulars are very selective in giving Egyptians visas and most of them dont really want to. I wasn't even given a reason as why my case was re-opened. I even phoned them and was just told that "New information" came up. What kind of new information could of come up when they already had my passport?

[Zoldar 0]

@Noah Lot, you claim that you are better than the "Sand people" when you've been nothing but rude and offensive. I said and I quote "If the US finds a criminal/terrorist in 1 for every 1,000 applicants then it is worth the administrative processing" so i dont see how in any way im trying to compromise the state's way of "handling business" I'm just asking for a more humane/time friendly process. What does 9/11 have to with this as it is debatable. and why not speaking about countries like afghanistan and Iraq? we're not hear to play a blame game.

[Noah Lot 391]

@Noah Lot, you claim that you are better than the "Sand people" when you've been nothing but rude and offensive. I said and I quote "If the US finds a criminal/terrorist in 1 for every 1,000 applicants then it is worth the administrative processing" so i dont see how in any way im trying to compromise the state's way of "handling business" I'm just asking for a more humane/time friendly process. What does 9/11 have to with this as it is debatable. and why not speaking about countries like afghanistan and Iraq? we're not hear to play a blame game.

tough. I said sand box countries...and what the US of A decides is the appropriate level of security when it comes to issuing a visa is in the purview of MY government, not yours nor your equally valueless opinion....right now, as for the past few weeks, YOUR countrymen have been assaulting MY embassy in your captital city, along with countless other threats...who needs it? Who needs you? Go tell that crowd of foaming-at-the mouth religious fanatics to chill out cuz you want a student visa....see what sort of response you get...

Our process is OUR process....YOU don't get to decide...if you don't like it, too bad. Buy some Kleenex....but as long as there are threats to the security of our embassies overseas (how many Parisians are outside our embassy in Paris right now, shouting, yelling anti-American slogans, misquoting the Koran (what's new?), threatening violence against our embassy personnel, compared to how many of YOUR countrymen who are doing that even as we speak? ), then if AP takes 2 weeks,2 months or 2 years, then that's the way it is, because this is the United States of America, not the dysfunctional hate-filled anti-America country of Egypt (a country which happily takes our money, but wants to stab us in the back...)......you want friendly? 'Have a nice day, while you're in AP...'....gee....wasn't that friendly?

Edited January 1, 2013 by Noah Lot

[Zoldar 0]

The fact that you generalize the actions of certain group of people to whole populous and other "Sand countries" seems ignorant. the fact that you use such language isn't very american like. How about you come off from your mighty horse and talk like a proper human being. I'm not coming to leech off of your country, if anything i'll be paying twice or thrice the tuition of a regular student. It is funny how you say that America has been helping egypt, while Egypt is stabbing it in the back. Have you not studied politics? No country would help out another country unless they had something in it for them. Why doesnt your country save the aid it is giving to Egypt to help create more job opportunities, why does it have military bases all over the world and why does it insist on not withdrawing the troops and saving families and making American life better. And please spare me the "America is trying to help everyone" it has something in it for them. I'm not attacking america, Im just stating that America isnt help Egypt out of benevolence. It seems to me that you hate people "like me", that's not very american like and educated. Honestly, quit being a smart #### and get off of your high horse. I've seen the so called attacks that people have done, and as I re-call our brave courageous police stood infront of the embassy with tanks and laded cars with guns to help protects the american embassy. Why arent you mentioning any of that? You're ignorant, and if you were to offer any help through you, I'd turn it down. I just hope that people in america dont share your mindset and are different.

[Noah Lot 391]

The fact that you generalize the actions of certain group of people to whole populous and other "Sand countries" seems ignorant. the fact that you use such language isn't very american like. How about you come off from your mighty horse and talk like a proper human being. I'm not coming to leech off of your country, if anything i'll be paying twice or thrice the tuition of a regular student. It is funny how you say that America has been helping egypt, while Egypt is stabbing it in the back. Have you not studied politics? No country would help out another country unless they had something in it for them. Why doesnt your country save the aid it is giving to Egypt to help create more job opportunities, why does it have military bases all over the world and why does it insist on not withdrawing the troops and saving families and making American life better. And please spare me the "America is trying to help everyone" it has something in it for them. I'm not attacking america, Im just stating that America isnt help Egypt out of benevolence. It seems to me that you hate people "like me", that's not very american like and educated. Honestly, quit being a smart #### and get off of your high horse. I've seen the so called attacks that people have done, and as I re-call our brave courageous police stood infront of the embassy with tanks and laded cars with guns to help protects the american embassy. Why arent you mentioning any of that? You're ignorant, and if you were to offer any help through you, I'd turn it down. I just hope that people in america dont share your mindset and are different.

You are demanding something to which you are not entitled...period. America has given countless billions of dollars, US tax dollars, to your country (which likely have been skimmed off somewhere else by your country's oh-so-benevolent leaders) and for what? So a bunch of fanatics can wave their silly flags and spout anti-American slogans (or worse)? How many countries has Egypt helped when faced with a variety of crises? Zero.

once again, for the intellectually impaired, our rules are our rules....and you do not rise above them....under any circumstance.

You are so high and mighty, deserving of every benefit my country can bestow upon you? Really? Why?

As I said before, oh-so-brave indignant one....go stand before the foaming-at-the-mouth crowd and explain to them why you should get a student visa immediately.....love to see that on CNN.

We are the United States of America, the most powerful country on the planet...who has offered her hand to millions....while others, often from your flea infested country, slap the hand that feeds them.

[Zoldar 0]

I'm demanding a more humane process with answers. I paid fees to get an interview and for other sub-services. I'm entitled for a deadline or an answer as to why it is being delayed, Perhaps I might be able to provide something...period. Sure America has given billions of dollars and continues to do so and helped with the Muslim brotherhood election campaign, which is the reason why Egypt is in such turmoil. They were funding them, because Mubarak was against a military base being established in Egypt. They also pay money for the Camp David treaty or have you forgotten? The money isnt just paid out of good will. Your country long ago was threatning cutting aid to palestine if it tries to declare itself as a state. America uses money and its fluence to grab countries from its ball sort to speak. Im not against that, as I dont care about all the politics going on. Im only concerned with MY visa process and the lengthy time it has taken with no transparency or contact.

What kind of rules are you talking about, you're racist if anything else. you absolutely make no sense and every word that comes out of your mouth is pure hatred.

it is funny how you've turned this topic into a hate speech man. You are "powerful". just wait for the fiscal cliff, when students cant pay their student loans, when china calls it debt on you guys. that's all irrelevant to my topic though. I wish americans arent like you and brain washed by the media like yourself