How to Convice USCIS for I-551

[VanessaTony 3,567]

DO NOT LIE TO USCIS. Ask for the stamp. I traveled with the expired GC and original NOA1 without problem. Lots of people have done so.

[Cathi 5,794]

just go there tell them yuou lost the NOA1 and you need an I 551 lol. I asked them for a stamp on my passport and they said you won't need it when you have the NOA1.

Are you really telling someone to USCIS???? Seriously???????????????????

[BigDaddy28 228]

Hey guys, let's all lie to USCIS and be paranoid that we won't be allowed to do something people do every day.

The blind leading the blind here!

I'm not saying he should lie but He is worried his country won't accept it.

[Cathi 5,794]

I'm not saying he should lie but He is worried his country won't accept it.

You straight out told the OP to lie.

Why in the world would you put your process in jeopardy by lying?

[bigdog 376]

Tell the truth be straight forward, you want the stamp because you want it or the people at the airport know nothing.

[Wyatt's Torch 45]

Wow, I'm kind of astonished that people are suggesting that the OP lie to USCIS...and that the OP thinks this is a good idea!

Seriously, don't do it. No matter what, just don't do it. First of all, lying is pathetic. Second of all, lying to USCIS is illegal, and also quite stupid. There are many ways to get the I-551 stamp without lying. Being 100% HONEST about the situation with USCIS is a great starting point. As others have mentioned, it's clearly a recurring issue, and so long as you are earnest in your request for a stamp, it shouldn't be an issue.

[rosco_qa 0]

Wow, I'm kind of astonished that people are suggesting that the OP lie to USCIS...and that the OP thinks this is a good idea!

Seriously, don't do it. No matter what, just don't do it. First of all, lying is pathetic. Second of all, lying to USCIS is illegal, and also quite stupid. There are many ways to get the I-551 stamp without lying. Being 100% HONEST about the situation with USCIS is a great starting point. As others have mentioned, it's clearly a recurring issue, and so long as you are earnest in your request for a stamp, it shouldn't be an issue.

As you say: "There are many ways to get the I-551 stamp without lying", out of those many please give 1 guaranteed way to have passport stamped with I-551. Can you? I know you are trying to help me but neither you or I shall decide who gets what. I guess I will just speak the truth & explain my fear the most presentable way possible.

Thanks.

[kmarion1968 5]

I cant believe you guys are paranoid of USCIS that you find it necessary to lie. do you realize what will happen if you are caught lying to the USCIS? yeah it wont be good...... Just ask for the stamp, dont make up stories, and you should be fine. DO NOT LIE to the uscis ever.. it will always come back to bite you later on...

[Flyer92 2]

So everyone is clear. USCIS is a federal agency. Making a false statement to any federal agency including USCIS is a criminal offense and is grounds for a criminal prosecution. Your case will be impacted. If you are concerned about the NOA being inadequate, explain that to the IO. Don't be deceptive, and do not lie. Take the original NOA and explain the issues you are concerned about.

To members on here that encourage deceiving, misleading or lying to USCIS, keep those encouragements to yourself.

[Akwunomy 4]

Wait till you get your GC and then you can travel...better than risking going there and have to call embassy or whosoever to talk to immigration to let you enter the plane. So it is a 50/50 chance and you just have to think about the probability and decide on what to do.

[rosco_qa 0]

Wait till you get your GC and then you can travel...better than risking going there and have to call embassy or whosoever to talk to immigration to let you enter the plane. So it is a 50/50 chance and you just have to think about the probability and decide on what to do.

If we could wait then I wouldn't even have ask this question to begin with. The fact is we WILL travel with expired GC & NOA1 no matter what happens. We will also carry the original biometrics letter (wife took finger print already), our marriage certificate & hell every thing we submitted to USCIS so far (including joint credit card, joint tax return transcript, joint bank account statements, driver's license showing same address and all other I-751 evidences). If customs or Turkish Airways gives us any hard time back in Bangladesh, I will deal with them showing all the paperwork.

I have sent an e-mail to Bangladesh U.S Embassy & Turkish Airways Bangladesh, but no reply from anyone (Those morons at Turkish Airways most likely didn't understood a word of my e-mail). I talked to Turkish Airways, Bangladesh on phone & they had no clue what I was talking about. THIS IS WHAT MAKING ME WORRIED.

I know we have absolutely all rights to travel with the extension letter as per official USCIS link below( I will also print this & take a copy):

http://www.uscis.gov...-0-0-15755.html

Long story short, We have an Info pass next week & we will show up with honestly & fear in eyes. We will beg USCIS for I-551 stamp explaining our fear. Worst thing can happen is they will deny my wife boarding the return flight & if that's what happens, I won't get back without my wife no matter what happens. ( I will keep you guys informed here on VJ)

Thanks.

Edited January 1, 2013 by rosco_qa

[ValerieA 350]

Countries like Bangladesh/Pakistan with morons working at the airport, NOA1 to them is of no use. It's simple as this ............. You have a green card, visa.. ok get on plane... you have expired card with NOA1....ummmmm we never heard of it, sorry get off the plane.

First off, you may want to adjust your attitude towards workers in foreign countries. Calling them morons is unacceptable and if they sniff out that attitude you may have bigger problems.

Do you have any examples of someone who had issues travelling to Bangladesh or Pakistan on their expired green card and extension letter? I haven't heard of any issues from any country, but I am guessing you must have or this question wouldn't have come up? There should be no issues, because it states clearly on the extension letter that you have status. I would think a stamp would be more problematic, since they really might not understand what that means, it is not spelled out.

[Wyatt's Torch 45]

One of the main things is to be utterly confident that the expired GC and the extension letter are ALL YOU NEED. You know definitively that that's the case, so it's just a case of being patient and going up the chain until you find someone at the airport that recognizes that the extension is an official federal document. It's reasonable to expect that lower level airline officials aren't going to know the ins and outs of U.S. immigration documentation, especially considering that there are nearly 200 countries on this planet, each with their own procedures...

You just have to be confident, patient, and persistent.

[AnotherLostSoul 167]

Hey peeps:

I have two questions, although I'm nowhere there yet...

1. if one does not intend to travel anywhere during the time one mails ROC form and during the "waiting period" of getting the new 10 year green card (I hear it takes a year), do they still need to have the stamp in their passport?

2. if one moves BEFORE they mail the form for ROC (and the evidences) is it going to cause any delays, and confusions at the time when one will mail ROC package? I read that it does cause a problem after one mailed the stuff in since it takes a year to get the 10 year green card...but I wonder if one moves before they mail the ROC package if that is going to be a problem o not.

Thanks everybody! Happy New Year!

[Akwunomy 4]

I really wish you the best and hope nothing of that nature will surface...i really understand through your write up that your reason for going can not wait..it is understandable...i will apply for ROC this June and i really was planning to visit my country next year but i still have to figure it out with by then...but all i know is that worst case scenario if they won't allow you...then the embassy will do something either through communication or by stamp of some sort to avert their fear at the airport...I had experience such scenario where someone was going to Brazil through south africa airline and he is just using a resident stamp on his passport and the could not allow him to enter the second flight from south Africa...It just cost him more money as he use another airline that understood that part of immigration documentation.

You will return with your wife...as i said worst case you will have to miss the flight and sort it out or come to the airport well in time and be process.