Oregon lawmaker rebuffed on proposal to arm teachers

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

http://www.examiner.com/article/oregon-lawmaker-rebuffed-on-proposal-to-arm-teachers?cid=rss

DECEMBER 17, 2012BY: DAVID CODREA

An Oregon state representative recommending to school superintendents that teachers be trained and armed has had his proposal rejected, Oregon Firearms Federation reported today in an alert to its members. Rep. Dennis Richardson’s plan recommended that “School district employees with prior military or law enforcement experience would be the initial candidates for this voluntary assignment.

“No one outside of school and district administration would know the identity of these volunteers,” Richardson continued. “Candidly, if I were a school administrator or board member and, knowing how these mass murders continue to occur, if I failed to promote preparation for immediate, lethal response in case an attack were to occur in my school, the blood of multiple innocent victims would be on my hands.”

The response, as OFF noted in its alert, was predictable.

Medford schools Superintendent Phil Long called for teachers to focus on getting children to safety in a shooting, not explaining how that would be possible if in a madman’s sights.

And Medford Police Chief Tim George maintained it’s not a teacher’s responsibility to make deadly force decisions on the job, apparently believing that employment takes precedence over an individual’s responsibility to defend his own life, and lives he as accepted adult responsibility for.

"In crisis situations there are a lot of very complex things happening all at once and you have to constantly train for deadly force incidents," Chief George asserted in top “Only Ones” form.

Evidently 16 hours per year equates with "constantly."

“Then shut up and train them,” OFF replied. “The cops are not there when babies are being gunned down! The teachers are. Stop acting like you have a monopoly on the ability to engage evil people. That is everybody's job!

“Connecticut tried it the gun grabbers’ way,” OFF concluded. “They are now mourning their babies. It's time to arm school employees. It's time.”

Edited December 18, 2012 by Bad_Daddy

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

If its a voluntary thing, I don't see an issue.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

If its a voluntary thing, I don't see an issue.

Obviously, you don't have children in school.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

If its a voluntary thing, I don't see an issue.

Agreed. Hopefully they pass something like this everywhere. I mean who wants their kids to end up as target practice to some whacked out over medicated zombie when those kids could have a fighting chance with a few of the school staff armed.

Edited December 18, 2012 by Bad_Daddy

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

Obviously, you don't have children in school.

True, but I speak honestly when I say I'd feel more comfortable knowing a few teachers were armed.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

True, but I speak honestly when I say I'd feel more comfortable knowing a few teachers were armed.

I don't really care how you feel about that seeing that you've got no skin in the game, buddy. I've got skin in the game and I tell you that the vast majority of people that do would tell you and the rest of the fringe what I tell you - this is a galactically stupid idea.

Generally speaking, galactically stupid stuff emerges when people that have no skin in the game want to make the rules for the game. You know, like when a bunch of old geezers with no medical background feel that they know best how to address women's health issues. It also applies where we try and figure out how to keep our children safe in school. Having some involvement in the education and schooling of our young - whether as a parent or a staffer in the system - would be a prerequisite to meaningfully participate in the debate. That circle widens when we talk about safety issues - then our public safety professionals get a seat at the table, too. Gun nuts? Not so much. They can meet separately to talk about improvements at the gun range or some useless ####### like that.

Edited December 18, 2012 by Mr. Big Dog

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

this is a galactically stupid idea.

[Ban Hammer 13,570]

True, but I speak honestly when I say I'd feel more comfortable knowing a few teachers were armed.

ditto

[spookyturtle 9,466]

What happens if one of the armed teachers goes psycho and starts blasting away?

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

What happens if one of the armed teachers goes psycho and starts blasting away?

Anything can happen. What happens if a meteor hits Boston tomorrow?

[spookyturtle 9,466]

Anything can happen. What happens if a meteor hits Boston tomorrow?

Ban meteors.

[scotinmass 588]

Anything can happen. What happens if a meteor hits Boston tomorrow?

That's more likely to happen on Friday.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Ban meteors.

Obama and NYC Mayor Bloomberg are on it. That means NYC might get that ban first, but only because the Giants own the Pats in the big game.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

Obama and NYC Mayor Bloomberg are on it. That means NYC might get that ban first, but only because the Giants own the Pats in the big game.

MIT can figure out a way to divert it so it hits the Meadowlands.

[aaydrian 479]

These solutions are too reactive and being proactive is what's important. I would not like teachers havings guns at school because next it'll be 'Teachers Kills Entire Class'.