Indiana Man Arrested After Threatening To Shoot Up Elementary School

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

You are living on the base, I guess you can assume your family will be safe they have one layer of security.

What about the families living in single individual homes?

I guess you don’t care if they have to pay 10k to protect their families.

I don't have a gun because in order to have a gun on base you have to go through hell to get it registred to keep in housing. I've lived in base housing for 18 years, never had a shooting rampage happen any where I have been. I'm not saying making it 10 grand for every background check, but I am saying they need to check more deeply.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

When I wanted to move to this country I had to pay for my visa and all the medical and background checks etc. When I wanted to remove conditions I had to do it again. If I apply for citizenship I will have to do it again.

When I wanted to drive I had to pay to get a learners permit and then pay again to take the road test and again to get my license. When I got a car I had to pay to register it and I have to do that every 2 years if I want to keep driving.

These are things that are essential to my life so I pay it.

Owning guns isn't essential to most people. It's a choice but they expect to get it for free.

Owning guns is a right as an American citizen. Read our US Constitution. You immigrating to the US was a privilege not a right.

[james&olya 1,121]

Really? What about the tax payers who do not have children yet pay a school tax?

Waah-waah, boo-hoo. Cry me a river. Nobody feels sorry for you!!

[Ban Hammer 13,337]

Pay for powder and casings!

you don't reload, do you?

cases can be reloaded many times. a 10 pound can of powder now will last for years.

[scotinmass 588]

Owning guns is a right as an American citizen. Read our US Constitution. You immigrating to the US was a privilege not a right.

Not just citizens. Even bleeding heart liberal gun haters from gay marriage loving countries that are under the thumb of their neighboring country has a right to bear arms if they have a green card.

[Ban Hammer 13,337]

I don't have a gun because in order to have a gun on base you have to go through hell to get it registred to keep in housing. I've lived in base housing for 18 years, never had a shooting rampage happen any where I have been. I'm not saying making it 10 grand for every background check, but I am saying they need to check more deeply.

but wait, that's what you want everyone off base to do!

Edited December 18, 2012 by charles!

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Waah-waah, boo-hoo. Cry me a river. Nobody feels sorry for you!!

Feel sorry for me? That wasn't the point.

[james&olya 1,121]

My wife flies to over two dozen villages a year. Iv'e been to just about every village on the Yukon from Fairbanks to St. Mary's. That doesn't include the Bethel area, Norton Sound, North Slope, Aleutians, Pribilov's, etc..... Now you want to tell me what grocery store those people shop at or better yet would you like me to post a map of Alaska on here for you to check out?

And the percent of Alaska's population in the 'bush' is quite small. Isn't half the population in Anchorage itself?

[Harsh_77 718]

I don't have a gun because in order to have a gun on base you have to go through hell to get it registred to keep in housing. I've lived in base housing for 18 years, never had a shooting rampage happen any where I have been. I'm not saying making it 10 grand for every background check, but I am saying they need to check more deeply.

Can anyone enter your base?

You have layer of security, most single homes do not have that they need a weapon to protect their home.

I also mentioned in my other post there are incidents where easy access to weapon has saved the lives but it does not get as much media attention as incident like this.

By no means I am supporting the violence in the school, I have my immediate family in school and would not want them to be harmed.

All I am saying is just jumping on the guns and anti gun lobby taking the leverage of such incident is wrong. I am saying is more we need to look at the root cause of these incidents today we live in society where we do not even know our neighbor, let alone their mental health.

Edited December 18, 2012 by Harsh_77

[Teddy B 17,252]

Didn't Nazi U-boats sink a bunch of American ships off the coast of the USA?

Yes they did. It was called "Operation Drumbeat". Nazi U-boats sank several US ships off the Atlantic coast.

1st wave of U-boatsFor the five Type IX boats in the first wave of Operation Drumbeat, it was a bonanza. They cruised along the coast, safely submerged through the day, and surfacing at night to pick off merchant vessels outlined against the lights of the cities.

Reinhard Hardegen in U-123 sank seven ships totalling 46,744 tons before he ran out of torpedoes and returned to base;

Ernst Kals in U-130 sank six ships of 36,988 tons;

Robert-Richard Zapp in U-66 sank five ships of 33,456 tons;

Heinrich Bleichrodt in U-109 sank four ships of 27,651 tons; and

Ulrich Folkers on his first patrol in U-125 sank only a single 6,666 ton vessel, for which he was criticized by Dönitz (although he would later win the Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross.)

The tanker "Dixie Arrow", torpedoed by U-71

The tanker MS Pennsylvania Sun, torpedoed by U-571 on 15 July 1942When the first wave of U-boats returned to port in early February, Dönitz wrote that each commander "had such an abundance of opportunities for attack that he could not by any means utilise them all: there were times when there were up to ten ships in sight, sailing with all lights burning on peacetime courses."

A significant failure in U.S. pre-war planning was the lack of any ships suitable for convoy escort work. Escort vessels travel at relatively slow speeds, carry a large number of depth-charges, must be highly manoeuvrable and must stay on station for long periods. Fleet destroyers were equipped for high speed and offensive action and were not the ideal design for this type of work. There was no equivalent of the British Black Swan class sloops or the River-class frigate in the U.S. inventory when the war started. This blunder, highly surprising, given that the USN had been involved in anti-submarine work in the Atlantic (see USS Reuben James) was further aggravated by the loss of the obsolete destroyers "loaned" to Britain through Lend-Lease, although these were barely suitable and vulnerable to counter-attack. There was also a lack of aircraft suitable for anti-submarine patrol and aircrew trained to use them.

Offers of civilian ships and aircraft to act as the Navy's "eyes" were repeatedly turned down, only to be accepted later when the situation was clearly critical and the admiral's claims[who?] to the contrary had become discredited.

[edit] 2nd and 3rd waves of U-boatsMeanwhile, the second wave of Type IX U-boats had arrived in American waters, and the third wave had reached its patrol area off the oil ports of the Caribbean. With such easy pickings available and all Type IX U-boats already committed, Dönitz began sending shorter-range Type VII U-boats to the U.S. East Coast as well. This required extraordinary measures: cramming every conceivable space with provisions, filling the fresh water tanks with diesel oil, and crossing the Atlantic at very low speed on a single engine to conserve fuel.

In the United States there was still no concerted response to the attacks. Overall responsibility rested with Admiral King, but he was preoccupied with the Japanese onslaught in the Pacific. Admiral Andrews' North Atlantic Coastal Frontier was expanded to take in South Carolina and renamed the Eastern Sea Frontier, but most of the ships and aircraft needed remained under the command of Admiral Royal E. Ingersoll, Commander-in-Chief, Atlantic Fleet, who was often at sea and unavailable to make decisions. Rodger Wynn's detailed weekly U-boat situation reports from the Submarine Tracking Room in London were available but ignored.

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[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

And the percent of Alaska's population in the 'bush' is quite small. Isn't half the population in Anchorage itself?

Not a third, and yes 2/3 of Alaska's population lives on the road system, and as you know some of that population relies on subsistence hunting and fishing to feed them and their families.

There are literally hundreds of villages that are not shown on that map down below. I live in Dillingham, Alaska atm and we have no roads in and no roads out along with a 87% Yupik Eskimo population. I can't purchase a loaf of bread atm seeing how we haven't had a plane in here for almost a week due to weather. The shelves in the store here are lucky to be half full and they ar empty of bread, eggs, milk,etc.. atm. Same with our mail. Mail gets here by plane and with no planes we have no mail. Hopefully the weather breaks here by tonight or tomorrow. We have plenty of moose meat along with salmon in our chest freezer, and pork we got the last time we were at Costco in Anchorage in my top freezer so we are good to go there.

Edited December 18, 2012 by Bad_Daddy

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Alaska is so fascinating.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

but wait, that's what you want everyone off base to do!

Let's see, how many on base in housing shooting have been in the news lately? Last one I remember was in Fort Hood, and wasn't even in housing. We have plenty of issues in housing, but worrying about someone pulling a gun out on you isn't one of them.

[scotinmass 588]

Alaska is so fascinating.

Did you know that Dillingham Alaska where men are men and what few woman are there are scared is on the same latitude as the north coast of Scotland? Being so far north one needs guns for food and the other goes to the supermarket just like everywhere else in the world.

[Harsh_77 718]

Let's see, how many on base in housing shooting have been in the news lately? Last one I remember was in Fort Hood, and wasn't even in housing. We have plenty of issues in housing, but worrying about someone pulling a gun out on you isn't one of them.

You did not answer to my earlier question, can just anyone enter the base?

Does one need an Id or permission or just drive upto the base and are allowed in the base?

Who guards the base?

Do the guards have weapon?