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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: United Kingdom
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Posted (edited)

So, to cut a long story short, we applied back in March and (perhaps foolishly) booked a wedding for Dec 29th.

We now have an interview date for next Tuesday (18th Dec) at 9am.

My problem is whether I should leave my passport at the embassy (assuming I'm approved) or ask them if I can send it to them for the visa in early January.

We have a lot of friends flying in from the UK and Australia for the wedding and, if I won't get my visa back in time, I'd rather fly on VWP, have a party with my friends, return to the UK to get the visa, then fly back and sign the marriage paperwork with my fiancee.

Of course, if I do leave it with the embassy I may not get it back in time (or I may.. who knows), meaning that if I don't, I'll be stuck in the UK while all of my friends and family are in the USA without me.

If I don't leave it, I could get turned away at the border using the VWP (although I've not had a problem previously) and will have to spend extra to fly back to the UK, then back to the USA again (when I might have actually gotten the visa in time);

What would you guys/girls do?

Thanks!

UK_K1

Edited by UK_K1

13th March 2012 - Petition Sent

15th March 2012 - NOA1 sent

20th March 2012 - NOA1 received

28th June 2012 - "Touched"

2nd October 2012 - NOA2

11th October 2012 - Received by NVC, Case # issued.

12th October 2012 - NVC sent case to London Embassy

15th October 2012 - Case received by London Embassy

7th November 2012 - Medical Exam

10th November 2012 - Packet 3 Sent

14th November 2012 - Packet 3 received by London Embassy

14th December 2012 - Interview Date Received

18th December 2012 - Interview - Approved pending updated Police Certificate

9th January 2013 - Updated Police Certificate & Passport sent to Embassy

16th January 2013 - Visa approved

21st January 2013 - Scheduled delivery of Passport & Visa

22nd January 2013 - Flying from LHR to DFW!

Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
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Posted

If your visa application is approved at the interview, your passport will be held for visa issuance, you don't have a choice in that matter.

Our journey:

Spoiler

September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

December 18, 2023:  Filed I-90 to renew Green Card

December 21, 2023:  Production of new Green Card ordered - will be seeing USCIS again every 10 years for renewal

 

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: United Kingdom
Timeline
Posted

So, even if I explain that I need to travel shortly after, they won't give me my passport back, even if I ask to take it and send it in later (as happens with people put in AP or who don't provide the correct paperwork)?

13th March 2012 - Petition Sent

15th March 2012 - NOA1 sent

20th March 2012 - NOA1 received

28th June 2012 - "Touched"

2nd October 2012 - NOA2

11th October 2012 - Received by NVC, Case # issued.

12th October 2012 - NVC sent case to London Embassy

15th October 2012 - Case received by London Embassy

7th November 2012 - Medical Exam

10th November 2012 - Packet 3 Sent

14th November 2012 - Packet 3 received by London Embassy

14th December 2012 - Interview Date Received

18th December 2012 - Interview - Approved pending updated Police Certificate

9th January 2013 - Updated Police Certificate & Passport sent to Embassy

16th January 2013 - Visa approved

21st January 2013 - Scheduled delivery of Passport & Visa

22nd January 2013 - Flying from LHR to DFW!

Posted

So, even if I explain that I need to travel shortly after, they won't give me my passport back, even if I ask to take it and send it in later (as happens with people put in AP or who don't provide the correct paperwork)?

Just responded to your post in the pinned interview thread as well. Besides having to turn in your passport, you wouldn't be able to travel on VWP to the US given your approved K-1 visa status.

Part One: The K-1 Visa Journey:

USCIS Receipt of I-129F: January 24, 2012 | Petition Approval: June 15, 2012 (No RFEs)
Interview: October 24, 2012 - Review | Visa Delivered: October 31, 2012



Part Two: Entry and Adjusting Status:

POE: November 18, 2012 (at SFO) - Review
Wedding: December 1, 2012 | Social Security: New cards received on December 7, 2012.
AOS Package (I-485/I-765/I-131) NOA1: February 19, 2013 | Biometrics Appt.: March 18, 2013
AP/EAD Approved: April 29, 2013 | Card Received: May 6, 2013 | AOS Interview Appt.: May 16, 2013 - Approved Review Card Received: May 24, 2013

Part Three: Removal of Conditions:

Coming Soon...

"When you're born you get a ticket to the freak show. When you're born in America, you get a front row seat." – George Carlin

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Denmark
Timeline
Posted

You can try your best and play the sympathy card with them to get it back ASAP or you could try and push out the wedding a little.

3/2/18  E-filed N-400 under 5 year rule

3/26/18 Biometrics

7/2019-12/2019 (Yes, 16- 21 months) Estimated time to interview MSP office.

 

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: United Kingdom
Timeline
Posted (edited)

Just responded to your post in the pinned interview thread as well. Besides having to turn in your passport, you wouldn't be able to travel on VWP to the US given your approved K-1 visa status.

I hadn't thought about the implications of being approved.. I guess that would mean I am no longer eligible for VWP? eek

You can try your best and play the sympathy card with them to get it back ASAP or you could try and push out the wedding a little.

Unfortunately, the latter isn't an option. I guess it's the former.. or try to rearrange the interview..

Edited by UK_K1

13th March 2012 - Petition Sent

15th March 2012 - NOA1 sent

20th March 2012 - NOA1 received

28th June 2012 - "Touched"

2nd October 2012 - NOA2

11th October 2012 - Received by NVC, Case # issued.

12th October 2012 - NVC sent case to London Embassy

15th October 2012 - Case received by London Embassy

7th November 2012 - Medical Exam

10th November 2012 - Packet 3 Sent

14th November 2012 - Packet 3 received by London Embassy

14th December 2012 - Interview Date Received

18th December 2012 - Interview - Approved pending updated Police Certificate

9th January 2013 - Updated Police Certificate & Passport sent to Embassy

16th January 2013 - Visa approved

21st January 2013 - Scheduled delivery of Passport & Visa

22nd January 2013 - Flying from LHR to DFW!

Posted

Chances are you will get it back in time. It usually takes about a week. With Christmas in there im not so sure but it looks like it is your only option.

CR-1
07-01-2011 : Married

05-10-2012 : I-130 Mailed to London (DCF)
05-11-2012 : I-130 Delivered and signed for at Embassy
05-18-2012 : NOA1 Email
07-26-2012 : NOA2 (69 days)
07-28-2012 : NOA2 hard copy received
08-10-2012 : LND Case number received. Letter dated 08-07-2012
08-15-2012 : DS-230 and DS-2001 mailed to Embassy
08-23-2012 : Medical
09-14-2012 : Emailed Embassy and confirmed DS forms have finally been logged (After 29 days)
09-22-2012 : Interview letter received. Dated September 19th.
10-03-2012 : Interview - Approved!
NOA1 to Interview - 138 days.
10-10-2012 : Passport with Visa delivered two hours late at 8pm.
10-22-2012 : POE Philadelphia
11-15-2012 : Green Card received in mail
12-11-2012 : Went to the Social Security office to apply for SSN after it did not arrive.
12-15-2012 : SSN Arrived in 4 days.

05-09-2013 : Left USC Husband.
11-28-2013: Filed for divorce.

05-01-2014: Divorced

05-08-2014: Sent I-751 petition to VSC

05-13-2014: NOA1 (was not postmarked until 5/22/14 and received on 5/24/14)
06-18-2014: Biometrics in St. Albans, VT

11-21-2014: RFE. Received on 11/24/14.

01-22-2015: Interview notice mailed out. Received 1/26/15

02-12-2015: Interview in St Albans, VT - Approved during interview!

CRBA
08-16-2012 : CRBA in London for our daughter - Approved!
09-11-2012 : CRBA and Passport arrived.
09-25-2012 : SSN Arrived. Mailed from MD on 09-17-2012

Posted (edited)

I hadn't thought about the implications of being approved.. I guess that would mean I am no longer eligible for VWP? eek

Just an opinion and nothing I can quote a law book on but---

I think you have not been issued a visa until they print it and put it in your passport. They still run a final database check . Some AP people are told approved, but they fail the final database check and don't have a visa for months. Without your passport, I don't think the guy saying approved means you have a visa from that moment. ...well because there is no visa printed yet. I think the interviewer may just be recommending your approval. I' m sure others may see it differently.

Edited by Nich-Nick

England.gifENGLAND ---

K-1 Timeline 4 months, 19 days 03-10-08 VSC to 7-29-08 Interview London

10-05-08 Married

AOS Timeline 5 months, 14 days 10-9-08 to 3-23-09 No interview

Removing Conditions Timeline 5 months, 20 days12-27-10 to 06-10-11 No interview

Citizenship Timeline 3 months, 26 days 12-31-11 Dallas to 4-26-12 Interview Houston

05-16-12 Oath ceremony

The journey from Fiancé to US citizenship:

4 years, 2 months, 6 days

243 pages of forms/documents submitted

No RFEs

Posted (edited)

So, even if I explain that I need to travel shortly after, they won't give me my passport back, even if I ask to take it and send it in later (as happens with people put in AP or who don't provide the correct paperwork)?

Call and make an appointment at a passport office and get a second passport- you have a perfectly valid and the most common reason for having one.

Leave second passport at embassy for the visa. If it is not back in time (and given the time of year/holidays coupled with my experiences this yr with DX secure, i wouldn't count on it being back), travel on your original passport under ESTA/VWP - or alternatively flip that and leave original passport with embassy and register your second for ESTA and travel on that- either will work.

Hassle yes, but at least you can travel.

Edited by mindthegap

CR1 / DCF (London): 2012 / 2013 (4 months from I-130 petition to visa in hand)

I-751 #1- April 2015 [Denied]

 

April 2015 : I-751 Joint filing package sent fedex next day 09:00am from UK ($lots - thanks). 
Jan 2017: Notification that an interview has been scheduled at a local office. Bizarrely still no RFE... 
Jan 2017: 2hr wait, then interview terminated before it began, due to moving my ID to another state 2 wks prior. New interview 'in a few months...maybe.'   Informed them that divorce proceedings are underway, but not finalised at this time. 
March 2017: An Interview was scheduled - marked as no-show as they didn't actually send out a notification of interview. FML 
April  2017: Filed an official complaint with the ombudsman, and have requested Senator & Congressman assistance
August 2017: Interview - switched to a (finalised) divorce waiver. Told that decision will be made that afternoon, but no problems foreseen with my case. 
October 2017: Letter of Denial received - reason given as 'I-751 petition was not properly filed'. Discovered ex-spouse made false allegations to USCIS in 2015. No opportunity given to review & refute allegations  - contrary to USCIS policy.

I-751 #2 - Oct 2017 - Mar 2021[Denied] 

 

October 2017: Within 72hrs of receiving denial notice, a new waiver I-751, divorce decree & $680 cheque, sent to Vermont via FedEx overnight 9am priority.  
Dec 2019: Filed FOIA request for full A# file
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March 2021: I-751 #2 denied for lack of evidence. No RFE, no interview, and evidence in previous I-751 not reviewed - contrary to policy. Huge errors in adjudication.

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February  2019: Interview - cancelled after a four hour wait due to 'missing paperwork' on their end. Promised Expedited reschedule.

March 2021: Interview letter received, strangely dated after I-751 denial. No I-751 interview conducted. N-400 interview and test passed, given 'cannot make a decision at this time' paper due to the ongoing I-751 nightmare...

April 2021: N-400 denial received citing recent I-751 denial as basis for ineligibility, even though it should have been a combo interview 🤯

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Feb 2022: RFIE (no, not an RFE, a Request For Initial Evidence) received, for copies of the divorce paperwork that they already have 😑

July 2022: Infopass for I-551 stamp number eleven.....

August 2023: Infopass for I-551 stamp number twelve....

January 2024: Denial received, ignoring the overwhelming majority of the filing, abundance of evidence, and refutation of a provably false allegation. The denial also contradicts itself in multiple places, as if it was written by someone with an IQ <50.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

 

2024: FML. Seriously. I'm done. 

 

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: United Kingdom
Timeline
Posted

Just an opinion and nothing I can quote a law book on but---

I think you have not been issued a visa until they print it and put it in your passport. They still run a final database check . Some AP people are told approved, but they fail the final database check and don't have a visa for months. Without your passport, I don't think the guy saying approved means you have a visa from that moment. ...well because there is no visa printed yet. I think the interviewer may just be recommending your approval. I' m sure others may see it differently.

I hope that is the case..

Call and make an appointment at a passport office and get a second passport- you have a perfectly valid and the most common reason for having one.

Leave second passport at embassy for the visa. If it is not back in time (and given the time of year/holidays coupled with my experiences this yr with DX secure, i wouldn't count on it being back), travel on your original passport under ESTA/VWP - or alternatively flip that and leave original passport with embassy and register your second for ESTA and travel on that- either will work.

Hassle yes, but at least you can travel.

I already tried that - they said that they will only issue a second passport for an ongoing business need for frequent travel :(

13th March 2012 - Petition Sent

15th March 2012 - NOA1 sent

20th March 2012 - NOA1 received

28th June 2012 - "Touched"

2nd October 2012 - NOA2

11th October 2012 - Received by NVC, Case # issued.

12th October 2012 - NVC sent case to London Embassy

15th October 2012 - Case received by London Embassy

7th November 2012 - Medical Exam

10th November 2012 - Packet 3 Sent

14th November 2012 - Packet 3 received by London Embassy

14th December 2012 - Interview Date Received

18th December 2012 - Interview - Approved pending updated Police Certificate

9th January 2013 - Updated Police Certificate & Passport sent to Embassy

16th January 2013 - Visa approved

21st January 2013 - Scheduled delivery of Passport & Visa

22nd January 2013 - Flying from LHR to DFW!

Posted

Just an opinion and nothing I can quote a law book on but---

I think you have not been issued a visa until they print it and put it in your passport. They still run a final database check . Some AP people are told approved, but they fail the final database check and don't have a visa for months. Without your passport, I don't think the guy saying approved means you have a visa from that moment. ...well because there is no visa printed yet. I think the interviewer may just be recommending your approval. I' m sure others may see it differently.

Pretty sure this has happened before in the UK forum, maybe in 2008 or 2009? I seem to recall that the K1 applicant had to go on a business trip to the US between the interview and the move. This may require some heavy-duty searching in the back pages. :)

I agree with Nich on this -- the visa is issued when the last database checks are done and it is affixed to your passport.

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