Candid Questions for the NRA

[Harsh_77 718]

Without spending a penny? Don't we want training? There would have to be a training program in place. Who is paying for these guns? If you think you're going to arm staff at a school without spending a penny, you're wrong.

Lot of teachers hunt or shoot for recreational purpose, simple things like allowing them to carry on school property, school manag working with them to make school more secure would not be that much of the cost.

Having a resource officer or armed guards or arming the teachers are all some of the ideas ppl are throwing around, I am sure you are aware middle school and high school already have resource officer.

[JensJrny2Ray 367]

Lot of teachers hunt or shoot for recreational purpose, simple things like allowing them to carry on school property, school manag working with them to make school more secure would not be that much of the cost.

Having a resource officer or armed guards or arming the teachers are all some of the ideas ppl are throwing around, I am sure you are aware middle school and high school already have resource officer.

It's not a 1 vs 1 situation. If they allow armed teachers, they will have to implement training programs which is a huge expense. It's a different ballgame when you are in a room with 30 children.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Edited December 20, 2012 by Bad_Daddy

[JensJrny2Ray 367]

There are children being trained as murderers and terrorists in other countries. How is this different?

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

There are children being trained as murderers and terrorists in other countries. How is this different?

Most all of us kids were trained with guns when I was growing up. Hunting, target shooting, and self defense do not equate murders and terrorist. I'm beginning to wonder if some people on this board spent their entire life in a giant bubble or they were born just yesterday.

[decocker 7,198]

There are children being trained as murderers and terrorists in other countries. How is this different?

wrong skin color?

and/or wrong religion?

those are my guesses..

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

It's not a 1 vs 1 situation. If they allow armed teachers, they will have to implement training programs which is a huge expense. It's a different ballgame when you are in a room with 30 children.

The expense would be tiny as opposed to paying full time security officers to patrol the school

There are children being trained as murderers and terrorists in other countries. How is this different?

Because the average avid gun owner here trains their kid in safety, hunting and self defense. Not to pop of a vest full of tnt in a crowded Jewish bus.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

The expense would be tiny as opposed to paying full time security officers to patrol the school

Because the average avid gun owner here trains their kid in safety, hunting and self defense. Not to pop of a vest full of tnt in a crowded Jewish bus.

The millions of American kids that weren't raised in a glass bubble and were brought up with guns are murders and terrorist or didn't you know that by now? Everyone I grew up with is a murder and terrorist. I have to fill my nephews, nieces and their friends in on this one. I don't know if they realize they are murders and terrorist. In fact that would make just about every kid in Alaska and rural America a murder and terrorist.

Edited December 20, 2012 by Bad_Daddy

[decocker 7,198]

The millions of American kids that weren't raised in a glass bubble and were brought up with guns are murders and terrorist or didn't you know that by now? Everyone I grew up with is a murder and terrorist. I have to fill my nephews, nieces and their friends in on this one. I don't know if they realize they are murders and terrorist. In fact that would make just about every kid in Alaska and rural America a murder and terrorist.

i think she was referring to all children being instructed on target practice, training, etc being taught IN SCHOOL en masse. not at home by parents.

Edited December 20, 2012 by val erie

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

i think she was referring to all children being instructed on target practice, training, etc being taught IN SCHOOL en masse. not at home by parents.

And I'm pretty sure neither one of you have a clue. Most all of us went to gun safety training by usually the second grade in order to get our patch and it included target practice. And yes those classes were en masse, and yes parents also teach the same thing to their children that they teach at those schools. You learn that stuff at home, then you go to your classes and learn the same thing , and then you learn it again at home. It's constant training and know how. If your a good parent then you beat it into your kids heads so they don't make a stupid mistake and shoot their buddy when hunting.

Terrorist are taught to kill people. It's their one and only main objective. Kill other human beings.

Edited December 20, 2012 by Bad_Daddy

[decocker 7,198]

And I'm pretty sure neither one of you have a clue. Most all of us went to gun safety training by usually the second grade in order to get our patch and it included target practice. And yes those classes were en masse, and yes parents also teach the same thing to their children that they teach at those schools.

Terrorist are taught to kill people. It's their one and only main objective. Kill other human beings.

well i dont know how old you are, but i never was offered any sort of gun class. neither were my parents, not until highschool - most certainly not grade school. maybe in alaska that's normal but in NOVA..it isn't.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

well i dont know how old you are, but i never was offered any sort of gun class. neither were my parents, not until highschool - most certainly not grade school. maybe in alaska that's normal but in NOVA..it isn't.

I'm 48 and was raised in Washington state. I didn't move here until I was almost 18. Parents pay for those classes, ours was held at the rec center and then we went from there to the gun range and from there out to the woods for a more real life take on it. This was in the third grade for me and the same grade when my brothers went. It was nothing we didn't already know seeing how I got my first gun when I was 5, and went out quail hunting the next day. You break your kids in on small game...birds and rabbits and then you take them on a deer hunt. When the pastures flood it's time for duck and goose season. If the kid doesn't act like a complete idiot then you let him go hunting with is friends...that happened for us by usually the 5th or 6th grade. Ducks for us in ours and the neighbors pasture and during late summer we would ride our bikes with our rifles and blast pheasant at our grandparents farm and a month later blast grouse in the woods. It was pretty much the same for most all the kids around there.

If you screwed up like I did once when I shot while I was standing behind my buddy and then got ratted out. I ended up getting the ever loving life beat out of me by my ol man and lost my hunting privileges for the rest of the year. Nothing sucks more when your a kid than to watch everyone else go hunting while you stay home.

Edited December 20, 2012 by Bad_Daddy

[decocker 7,198]

I'm 48 and was raised in Washington state. I didn't move here until I was almost 18. Parents pay for those classes, ours was held at the rec center and then we went from there to the gun range and from there out to the woods for a more real life take on it. This was in the third grade for me and the same grade when my brothers went.

okay, well that's different. of course there are gun classes outside of public school. they're not part of the public school curriculum. i"m pretty sure that everyone who obtains a hunting license has to take them, adults and children. virginia is no stranger to guns or children using guns..

remember we were talking about taking gun classes in school in relation to arming teachers, not taking gun classes at the parks n rec..

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

okay, well that's different. of course there are gun classes outside of public school. they're not part of the public school curriculum. i"m pretty sure that everyone who obtains a hunting license has to take them, adults and children. virginia is no stranger to guns or children using guns..

remember we were talking about taking gun classes in school in relation to arming teachers, not taking gun classes at the parks n rec..

In Washington you had to have that class in order to go hunting but that was just for kids. 14 and over then no classes required to get a hunting license. In Alaska no classes required whatsoever for anyone no matter what their age. It's all on the parents..family, friends...whoever to teach the kids here.

Same with a concealed weapons permit. Most states like Washington requires a background check, gun safety classes, etc.. and it takes awhile to get that permit once you first apply for it. Here in Alaska all you have to do is have gun and you can carry it concealed or open carry...no nothing required. No permit required, no classes, no nothing. Different states with different rules/laws but then again Alaska is unique with it's location and size, etc... from the rest of the states. Virginia though was one of the states that was talking about relaxing it's gun laws. This was last year and I don't know if anything has changed since then or not.

Edited December 20, 2012 by Bad_Daddy

[decocker 7,198]

In Washington you had to have that class in order to go hunting but that was just for kids. 14 and over then no classes required to get a hunting license. In Alaska no classes required whatsoever for anyone no matter what their age. It's all on the parents..family, friends...whoever to teach the kids here.

most states jump at the opportunity to require a cla$$ in order to hunt. i would think alaska being a huge hunting territory..would definitely cash in on that..weird.