Freaking RFE From CSC

[Cupidoll 1]

I swear these people are freaking idiots!!!!!!!!!!! I just got the RFE for my wifes AOS and it's telling me that we need to submit our medical exam (I-693). The thing is my wife entered on a K-1 and her medical was done back in May 2006 before her interview. Of course we don't have her f&^%ing freaking medical since that ####### was taken from us at the POE. All we have is a copy of her vaccination, which was sent to the stupid fu&^s at USCIS...I swear, I'm so pissed off right now...fortunately, I already scheduled an infopass appointment concerning her AP and it's this monday 6 Nov....And we'll be addressing this issue with someone no less than a supervisor.

Anyway, is there anyone who has had this issue before? Thanks for letting me vent....I'm so fu&^ing pissed off right now...

I think this fits what I'm gonna do on monday....

[kitkat1 5]

You only needed to provide the vaccination supplement but it sounds like your pre-K1 medical is now outdated therefore they corrected requested a new one.

[Cupidoll 1]

You only needed to provide the vaccination supplement but it sounds like your pre-K1 medical is now outdated therefore they corrected requested a new one.

The K-1 medical was done on May 25, 2006, it is good for one year. She entered on June 30, 2006. We filed the AOS at the begining of Sept. 2006. So, I don't think it's outdated....thanks for the suggestion.

[kitkat1 5]

Oops - you're right. For some reason I thought it was more than one year old. So it's their error in requesting the medical - they only need the vaccination supplement. Should be easy to clear up.

[Cupidoll 1]

Oops - you're right. For some reason I thought it was more than one year old. So it's their error in requesting the medical - they only need the vaccination supplement. Should be easy to clear up.

No problem...I hope you're right though. It's a good thing that I already had the infopass appointment scheduled for this monday concerning her AP. Maybe they can help with this instead...I submitted everything, and I mean everything with the AOS package.

I'm even going to take my wifes X-Ray to the infopass appointment...

[Kath 0]

hi ya

i have read posts where USCIS are sending RFE's over heaps of stuff that the sender already sent to them...i dont know if they loose it ..or it gets seperated or what happens to them...

take everything you need to proove the medical was done my medical examiner gave me a full copy of what was made for the embassey...so i was lucky that he did that for me many dont...

good luck for monday

kath

[Cupidoll 1]

Thanks for the support...it's much appreciated...There's not much, but I do have the X-Ray and a few other things, including the vaccination record...we'll see!!! Thanks again.

hi ya

i have read posts where USCIS are sending RFE's over heaps of stuff that the sender already sent to them...i dont know if they loose it ..or it gets seperated or what happens to them...

take everything you need to proove the medical was done my medical examiner gave me a full copy of what was made for the embassey...so i was lucky that he did that for me many dont...

good luck for monday

kath

[sarah and hicham 3]

Wait did you send in the I-693 or the 3025 one from the doctors office? Did you have a civil surgeon here transfer the info onto the I-693?

Maybe they lost the info?

Can't they ask her to do another medical even if she already had it this year? I thought they could pretty much ask for something even if they "should" already have it?

[CWR 0]

Don't want to tick you off even more ( ), but there have been several people here on VJ who have been RFE'd for another complete medical, even though they had entered on a K-1 and their medical was NOT out of date, just like in your case.

Some of them just mailed in the vaccinaton supplement again (some even got that advice from the misonformation hotline), others sent a letter of explanation that they shouldn't have to supply a new medical due to the above reasons.

BUT: If I remember correctly, the end result was that their AOS were denied!!!

(They had to file to reopen their cases).

Apparently USCIS DOES have the right to ask for anything else they want (even another medical when K-1 people usually do not need one), if they think further evidence is needed.

Since you already have an infopass appointment scheduled, by all means try to resolve the matter with the medical. But I just wanted to alert you to the fact, that it has happened before and that those people were NOT able to get AOS approval until they did supply another medical. Make sure to get sufficient documentation in case they tell you "ok, you don't need another medical"....have them give that to you in writing!!

Good luck,

CW

[Waiting in Vancouver 6]

I agree with CWR ...

They can pretty much as for anything they want ... The rules clearly state that you don't have to do another medical exam if you had one in the last year for the K-1/K-3 but do have to supply the suppliment ...

If a person chooses to fight it they are only delaying their approval ... Sometimes it is better to just suck it up and do what they want ...

When I got my RFE for not supplying our marriage certificate which I know definately that I had supplied a certified copy (the one you receive from the county and not a photocopy of it) I was pretty pissed off to put it lightly ... It was documented on my cover letter, the complete photocopy that I made of the submission (which I had in my files here) also showed it was there and the biggest thing who would apply for AOS on a K-1 Visa without supplying a marriage certificate ... After all that is the main condition of the K-1 Visa ...

Anyways, when I was writing a letter to send back the RFE with the marriage certificate I was so temped to give them attitude in my letter ... But then I thought what would I be accomplishing by pissing off the people that I depend on to approve my case ...

The actual letter was very nice and polite ... Thats right I wimped out

Edited November 5, 2006 by Waiting in Vancouver

[Cupidoll 1]

All I know is that the Immigration guys at the POE took all the medical paperwork except the x-ray and vaccination...There's no doubt they can ask for what ever they want and of course I'll have to do as the "Master" wishes....

Wait did you send in the I-693 or the 3025 one from the doctors office? Did you have a civil surgeon here transfer the info onto the I-693?

Maybe they lost the info?

Can't they ask her to do another medical even if she already had it this year? I thought they could pretty much ask for something even if they "should" already have it?

I will definitly ask for confirmation in writing...thanks for the idea!!! I've already looked to find a Civil Surgeon in the area to do her medical, just in case. Fortunately, I have until January 24, 2007 to send everything back to them but, hopefully, I'll get it all done this week no matter what happens monday...

Don't want to tick you off even more ( ), but there have been several people here on VJ who have been RFE'd for another complete medical, even though they had entered on a K-1 and their medical was NOT out of date, just like in your case.

Some of them just mailed in the vaccinaton supplement again (some even got that advice from the misonformation hotline), others sent a letter of explanation that they shouldn't have to supply a new medical due to the above reasons.

BUT: If I remember correctly, the end result was that their AOS were denied!!!

(They had to file to reopen their cases).

Apparently USCIS DOES have the right to ask for anything else they want (even another medical when K-1 people usually do not need one), if they think further evidence is needed.

Since you already have an infopass appointment scheduled, by all means try to resolve the matter with the medical. But I just wanted to alert you to the fact, that it has happened before and that those people were NOT able to get AOS approval until they did supply another medical. Make sure to get sufficient documentation in case they tell you "ok, you don't need another medical"....have them give that to you in writing!!

Good luck,

CW

I don't think you wimped out, you are just covering your rear-end...I may kick and scream and fall on the floor threatening to nuke the world but, in the end...I always cave...However, I am going to have the last word, that is a certainty...When this is over, and we eventually get the 10 year card and or her citizenship...I will have the last word!!!! I'm a resentful bastage...I think that's why I'm gonna live forever...

I agree with CWR ...

They can pretty much as for anything they want ... The rules clearly state that you don't have to do another medical exam if you had one in the last year for the K-1/K-3 but do have to supply the suppliment ...

If a person chooses to fight it they are only delaying their approval ... Sometimes it is better to just suck it up and do what they want ...

When I got my RFE for not supplying our marriage certificate which I know definately that I had supplied a certified copy (the one you receive from the county and not a photocopy of it) I was pretty pissed off to put it lightly ... It was documented on my cover letter, the complete photocopy that I made of the submission (which I had in my files here) also showed it was there and the biggest thing who would apply for AOS on a K-1 Visa without supplying a marriage certificate ... After all that is the main condition of the K-1 Visa ...

Anyways, when I was writing a letter to send back the RFE with the marriage certificate I was so temped to give them attitude in my letter ... But then I thought what would I be accomplishing by pissing off the people that I depend on to approve my case ...

The actual letter was very nice and polite ... Thats right I wimped out

[sarah and hicham 3]

Right- they take her stuff at POE but for AOS they ask for at least the I-693. Some have gotten away with sending nothing and others have gotten away for sending the 3025 form from the doctor in their country.

That's right, they can ask for anything they want. Most people get RFE's for something they already sent in... who knows why!

ps. Can I ask why you have an infopass appt for Monday for AP? Also, can you let me know how it goes? I am considering scheduling one also. Thanks!

Edited November 5, 2006 by sarah and hicham

[Cupidoll 1]

I'm not trying to argue, just trying to understand something, so please understand...Why would they need the I-693 from me, when we dont have that?...I'm assuming it was in the "brown envelope"...I sent the 3025 because that's all we have except the freakin' x-ray...and I think we have a receipt for the payment of the medical exam...uuuuuurrrrrrggggghhhhhh!!!! I think I'm just gonna forget about this until the appointment monday....

We got the AP appointment because they haven't touched our AP since we filed it in Sept. I know nothing will come from the appointment concerning the AP but, I thought I would try to see what the deal was. We are hoping to go visit Ukraine for New Years and Orthodox Christmas (January 7, I believe) and we want to buy tickets before they get toooooo expensive. However, now I'm glad that I set up the appointment a few weeks ago...The D.C. office takes forever to get appointments and then you have to wait weeks on end. I was lucky to get one three weeks in advance....I'll be sure to let you know how it goes.

Right- they take her stuff at POE but for AOS they ask for at least the I-693. Some have gotten away with sending nothing and others have gotten away for sending the 3025 form from the doctor in their country.

That's right, they can ask for anything they want. Most people get RFE's for something they already sent in... who knows why!

ps. Can I ask why you have an infopass appt for Monday for AP? Also, can you let me know how it goes? I am considering scheduling one also. Thanks!

[Jenn! 918]

Why would they need the I-693 from me, when we dont have that?...I'm assuming it was in the "brown envelope"...I sent the 3025 because that's all we have except the freakin' x-ray

Since you only sent the DS-3025 are you sure it's not the I-693A vaccination supplemental that they are looking for? The I-485 instructions do state that you need to send the I-693A.

[sarah and hicham 3]

I'm not trying to argue, just trying to understand something, so please understand...Why would they need the I-693 from me, when we dont have that?...I'm assuming it was in the "brown envelope"...I sent the 3025 because that's all we have except the freakin' x-ray...and I think we have a receipt for the payment of the medical exam...uuuuuurrrrrrggggghhhhhh!!!! I think I'm just gonna forget about this until the appointment monday....

We got the AP appointment because they haven't touched our AP since we filed it in Sept. I know nothing will come from the appointment concerning the AP but, I thought I would try to see what the deal was. We are hoping to go visit Ukraine for New Years and Orthodox Christmas (January 7, I believe) and we want to buy tickets before they get toooooo expensive. However, now I'm glad that I set up the appointment a few weeks ago...The D.C. office takes forever to get appointments and then you have to wait weeks on end. I was lucky to get one three weeks in advance....I'll be sure to let you know how it goes.

Right- they take her stuff at POE but for AOS they ask for at least the I-693. Some have gotten away with sending nothing and others have gotten away for sending the 3025 form from the doctor in their country.

That's right, they can ask for anything they want. Most people get RFE's for something they already sent in... who knows why!

ps. Can I ask why you have an infopass appt for Monday for AP? Also, can you let me know how it goes? I am considering scheduling one also. Thanks!

They need that form I-693 because that is the form they ask for... most people take the 3025 and have it transferred to the I-693 because the instructions ask for that as a vaccination record.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...mp;page=k1k3aos

This is the VJ guide on AOS, notice that it includes the I-693. FOr some reason I can't get USCIS page to open the I-485 instructions but if you read the form I believe it says something about the vaccination supplement. It says you don't have to have another medical if it's been within one year but to include at least the vaccination supplement.