Wife Denied Entry to the US

[Boiler 45,837]

The elephant in the room, why.

[rade2rising 205]

The elephant in the room, why.

[Jahwaree 83]

Get the info from an atty, could be a number of things, shes your wife and U can file DCF in your wifes country, U come here looking

to get an idea of whats up so if U feeling some answers are a bit judgemental dont despair and there are ways to block those u want to who offend

instead of trying to help goodluck bro

[Moomin 292]

Being refused means she can't use VWP again. Marriage means you're married and you can petition her. Marriage doesn't mean she has any rights. In fact, it might make it harder for her to get a non-immigrant visa. Because as a non-US citizen, she doesn't have any right to enter the US regardless of her relation to you. She will have to schedule an interview at the US embassy for a tourist visa and demonstrate her ties to home country. Ties are usually what makes a tourist return - you know, lease, bills, job. And you, because you live in her home country.

Being denied of a tourist visa because she doesn't have strong ties isn't a biggie - just apply when having stronger ties and commitment(and proof thereof). If she lives with her parents, doesn't have a lease, no bills in her name and doesn't have a job at the moment. However if the reason for being inadmissable is another, then she has to overcome that reason before thinking about applying for a non-immigrant visa.

We'll need to know the exact reason for her being inadmissable in order to guide you.

[Meatloaf n Taters 3]

CBP does not deny admission to people 'just for the fun of it'....the arriving alien has to give them a reason (it doesn't take too much of one)..such as ....not telling the truth to the CBP officer, when they asked her.."what is the purpose of your trip?..' or..'who are you planning to visit?'..and the answers given were, ahem, something other than correct...they may have inspected her luggage and found love letters or things that told them her 'friend' was something more than a friend...or other clues that suggested she was not being forthright with them...and such actions usually result in a swift U-turn back to the plane and back home...it's is amazing how anyone retelling the story of a denied admission of their spouse/fiance or 'family friend' (all one and the same!) always cast the CBP folks as the bad guys, whereas the foreign significant other was always innocent of any wrongdoing and only told the complete truth....odd I don't quite buy that as often as this story has been told...when the denied BFs or GFs (or SOs) get back home and on the phone, of course they are going to re-tell the story to make it appear as though CBP plucked them from the line of arrivals, whisked them to a dark room, beat them with sticks, threw water in their faces, made them sign papers they could not understand and whose contents were totally false....yep...happens every day...sure....what has usually taken place is that the arriving GF/BF/SO has given incomplete, innaccurate answers initially, and then, if taken to secondary, there is other evidence in their luggage, purse or other belongings that tell the true tale...the one that the unhappy American BF/GF/ SO never hears...I've worked alongside CBP twice (one day each time) in an earlier career, while they were screening arriving aliens from other countries, and they have highly tuned senses when they are working the line, sniffing out those who have other plans with remarkable accuracy....I applaud them for doing a truly thankless job..but their decisions benefit of all American citizens living in this country, and keep our borders much safer....and not just from terrorists, but from those who are trying to circumvent our laws...

Normally I'd completely, 100% agree with you that people are exaggerating their stories. I wouldn't buy that either, had someone said all of this to me. But I know my wife. Thank you for flat out placing the blame on her. Couldn't possibly have been some CBP officer needing to meet a quota for the month? It did happen at the end of the month...wouldn't be surprised if they're graded on the same criteria as police officers.

It's also amazing how some flag-waving, tea party 'patriot' could side with the CBP against the malevolent, unworthy immigrants. No, CBP doesn't deny entry for the fun of it, they do it because they are paid to be the most paranoid people in order to protect a nation of paranoid people. Cause everybody just wants to move to the US, American dream, blah blah. How many guns do you own? As I read your post, all I could hear was,'...and I'm proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm free...'.

The best part of the whole thing, is that I know an older guy who literally goes on some website, meets Chinese women, talks to them (somehow; he speaks no Mandarin), they 'fall in love', he flies there and brings them back to the US, no problems. He's done it 3 times now. The first two both left him. I remember one of them (first wife or second, can't remember which) asking him for a one-way flight to New York so she could visit her family. Beautiful. He seemed surprised when she didn't come back. I can't remember what happened with the other one, but honestly it was similar. It was unbelievable, hearing about it. I guess my point is, there is no way to make the borders secure against people looking to (for some reason) move to the US illegally. CBP is just like God, it's there to make people feel better, so people aren't scared. I'm sure they catch a lot of people who are genuinely trying to move/stay illegally, but they don't catch them all. Besides, the most common threat to the typical American's everyday safety isn't necessarily coming from outside the borders. Most of the shootings aren't the work of illegal foreigners. But we need the guns, you can have them when you take the from my cold dead hands, blah blah.

It's just funny that this guy I know can keep 'trying' with these Chinese women, alright, everything's by the book, nothing to look at here; however, we did everything correctly, just two people who wanted to see each other, but there was some massive, game-changing 'mistake' that led to her immediately being sent back, without a word to me? The situation required such a drastic response? Ohh, I guess they found the book I bought for her in her luggage,'What To Do With Your New (Illegal) Life in the US (Now That You've Successfully Fooled Everyone!). Not the catchiest title but it got good reviews on Amazon. It was a good stocking stuffer is all I'm saying.

[Meatloaf n Taters 3]

Yeah I am just a Nosy Nancy. You turned to a community help forum which means we need to know things about your case in order to advise you. The reason for a denial of entry & deportation has a lot of bearing on how to proceed. If she did the VWP paperwork properly then indeed something must have tipped off CBP when they were questioning her that she shouldn't be allowed in. And for sure they told her why. I know how they operate. I know a guy who even got the reason for his refusal in writing. She was probably just too distraught to pay attention or remember. It happens. You weren't there so you'll never really know what went on. Have her apply for a tourist visa and make sure she follows all the requirements. Your residency in her country will probably help a lot. She will have to disclose her previous denial on the forms obviously. I think your questions have been adequately answered by several people.

Sorry if I reacted poorly, but I didn't care for the tone of your response. 'Liiiike - why was she denied entry, duhh'. That's what it sounded like. Sorry again, and thanks for your help.

[mishka1 17]

For her to live in the US: Since you are married you need to file for a spousal visa. Since you are living in her country, you can see if you can do a direct consul file (DCF) for your wife to join you in the US when you decide to move back here. Otherwise will will have to file the I-130 spousal visa and have her wait for the process to be completed before she can join you in the US. A bit more information word be helpful for us to give you a complete picture of what you may or may not be able to do.

For her to visit the US, she should apply for a tourist visa and show strong ties to her home country. Having a husband living in her country should help. Using the VWP is not an option as she was denied before plus you do not want to get to the US and have her returned again. Better to get the tourist visa and know she can enter the US.

Dave

In my humble opinion since she was denied entry previously, with tourist visa she will be denied entry again because that will show intent to immigrate and circumvent the immigration laws, since the OP waited for so long the couples best legal option/route is for the USC husband to apply for I-130, and good luck

[Rob & Monika 87]

So you are angry that it happened, and angry that you don't know why it happened, and you just decided to bash all Americans reading this site?

[himher 634]

Listen to you foam at the mouth on the internet. Be a real man, call the nearest embassy or USCIS office and foam over there.

There's a thread on here somewhere where someone did that back in 2007. I believe it's under SN alt_name or some such. Heard that dude really let 'em have it and still got his case processed.

Here are the facts: There is a LOMG list in the CFR of reasons to deny entry, everything from lack of a round-trip ticket or failure to follow ESTA application process or (LOL or having a communicable disease -hopefully that wasnt the reason? innocently asking) to suspicion that a person is flying over to get married/adjust status/and immigrate. What your wife has to do to re-enter depends on the reason recorded in the system database.

You dont want to give details fine but she knows what was asked and what was answered and if one sets the reasons for denial side by side with what happened even a dim light on the street can figure out what the officer was thinking. IF and however you want to change the system run for friggin office and change it. Here is what I know. Your wife can't re-enter on a VWR. She has to go to the embassy like most of the rest of the people in the world have to do and apply for and interview for a visitor's visa. Her chances of getting one are lower when she is married to a USC. We didnt write the rules nor do we necessarily agree with them but we are in the business here of sharing factual applications of them.

Now go take it out on homeland security. Lemme know how tht worked out for ya.

Normally I'd completely, 100% agree with you that people are exaggerating their stories. I wouldn't buy that either, had someone said all of this to me. But I know my wife. Thank you for flat out placing the blame on her. Couldn't possibly have been some CBP officer needing to meet a quota for the month? It did happen at the end of the month...wouldn't be surprised if they're graded on the same criteria as police officers.

It's also amazing how some flag-waving, tea party 'patriot' could side with the CBP against the malevolent, unworthy immigrants. No, CBP doesn't deny entry for the fun of it, they do it because they are paid to be the most paranoid people in order to protect a nation of paranoid people. Cause everybody just wants to move to the US, American dream, blah blah. How many guns do you own? As I read your post, all I could hear was,'...and I'm proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm free...'.

The best part of the whole thing, is that I know an older guy who literally goes on some website, meets Chinese women, talks to them (somehow; he speaks no Mandarin), they 'fall in love', he flies there and brings them back to the US, no problems. He's done it 3 times now. The first two both left him. I remember one of them (first wife or second, can't remember which) asking him for a one-way flight to New York so she could visit her family. Beautiful. He seemed surprised when she didn't come back. I can't remember what happened with the other one, but honestly it was similar. It was unbelievable, hearing about it. I guess my point is, there is no way to make the borders secure against people looking to (for some reason) move to the US illegally. CBP is just like God, it's there to make people feel better, so people aren't scared. I'm sure they catch a lot of people who are genuinely trying to move/stay illegally, but they don't catch them all. Besides, the most common threat to the typical American's everyday safety isn't necessarily coming from outside the borders. Most of the shootings aren't the work of illegal foreigners. But we need the guns, you can have them when you take the from my cold dead hands, blah blah.

It's just funny that this guy I know can keep 'trying' with these Chinese women, alright, everything's by the book, nothing to look at here; however, we did everything correctly, just two people who wanted to see each other, but there was some massive, game-changing 'mistake' that led to her immediately being sent back, without a word to me? The situation required such a drastic response? Ohh, I guess they found the book I bought for her in her luggage,'What To Do With Your New (Illegal) Life in the US (Now That You've Successfully Fooled Everyone!). Not the catchiest title but it got good reviews on Amazon. It was a good stocking stuffer is all I'm saying.

Edited December 14, 2012 by himher

[bigdog 376]

Yeah I am just a Nosy Nancy. You turned to a community help forum which means we need to know things about your case in order to advise you. The reason for a denial of entry & deportation has a lot of bearing on how to proceed. If she did the VWP paperwork properly then indeed something must have tipped off CBP when they were questioning her that she shouldn't be allowed in. And for sure they told her why. I know how they operate. I know a guy who even got the reason for his refusal in writing. She was probably just too distraught to pay attention or remember. It happens. You weren't there so you'll never really know what went on. Have her apply for a tourist visa and make sure she follows all the requirements. Your residency in her country will probably help a lot. She will have to disclose her previous denial on the forms obviously. I think your questions have been adequately answered by several people.

[himher 634]

Actually you sound like "duh my wife got denied and i wanna throw a tantrum about it in front of strangers"

Sorry if I reacted poorly, but I didn't care for the tone of your response. 'Liiiike - why was she denied entry, duhh'. That's what it sounded like. Sorry again, and thanks for your help.

Edited December 14, 2012 by himher

[JohnR! 5,495]

Normally I'd completely, 100% agree with you that people are exaggerating their stories. I wouldn't buy that either, had someone said all of this to me. But I know my wife. Thank you for flat out placing the blame on her. Couldn't possibly have been some CBP officer needing to meet a quota for the month? It did happen at the end of the month...wouldn't be surprised if they're graded on the same criteria as police officers.

CBP officers don't have a quota. They make their decisions based on the interview upon arrival. I agree with you it would be imprudent to blame your wife for the refusal but it would be equally imprudent to blame the CPB officer.

I can understand you are upset but again, until you know what actually happened during the interview, what was said or done, you really only have speculation on with which to go.

What your wife seems to have not told you is that the CBP officers all have guns; so, that she was escorted to her plane back home by officers with guns should not be interpreted as a sign of deference to her. Everyone is given the same special treatment. They do not shout nor do they scream at anyone who behaves properly. Draw from your own experiences waiting in line at the USCIS arrivals hall and try to remember when you heard screaming or shouting. The same is true for secondary inspection room.

Fact remains that, if you want to know why she was refused admission, you need to ask her to come clean and tell you the whole story. I don't mean to say she is deliberately lying to you so much as she may be ashamed or hesitant to tell you everything that took place, lest you get mad at her or pin the entire kerfuffle on her.

good luck!

Edited December 14, 2012 by Gegel

[hikergirl 277]

There has been some good advice in this thread. Your wife could also try calling CBP to find out the exact reason why she was turned around. Here is some contact info that I found on-line:

Questions/Customer Service

For general CBP inquiries, please call the CBP INFO Center Monday-Friday, between 8:30 a.m. and 5 p.m. Eastern Time.

General Inquiries: 1-877-CBP-5511

International Callers: (703) 526-4200

TDD: 1-866-880-6582

Good luck in securing a Visitors Visa.

[Meatloaf n Taters 3]

Being refused means she can't use VWP again. Marriage means you're married and you can petition her. Marriage doesn't mean she has any rights. In fact, it might make it harder for her to get a non-immigrant visa. Because as a non-US citizen, she doesn't have any right to enter the US regardless of her relation to you. She will have to schedule an interview at the US embassy for a tourist visa and demonstrate her ties to home country. Ties are usually what makes a tourist return - you know, lease, bills, job. And you, because you live in her home country.

Being denied of a tourist visa because she doesn't have strong ties isn't a biggie - just apply when having stronger ties and commitment(and proof thereof). If she lives with her parents, doesn't have a lease, no bills in her name and doesn't have a job at the moment. However if the reason for being inadmissable is another, then she has to overcome that reason before thinking about applying for a non-immigrant visa.

We'll need to know the exact reason for her being inadmissable in order to guide you.

Thanks for your help, I appreciate it.

[Noah Lot 391]

Normally I'd completely, 100% agree with you that people are exaggerating their stories. I wouldn't buy that either, had someone said all of this to me. But I know my wife. Thank you for flat out placing the blame on her. Couldn't possibly have been some CBP officer needing to meet a quota for the month? It did happen at the end of the month...wouldn't be surprised if they're graded on the same criteria as police officers.

It's also amazing how some flag-waving, tea party 'patriot' could side with the CBP against the malevolent, unworthy immigrants. No, CBP doesn't deny entry for the fun of it, they do it because they are paid to be the most paranoid people in order to protect a nation of paranoid people. Cause everybody just wants to move to the US, American dream, blah blah. How many guns do you own? As I read your post, all I could hear was,'...and I'm proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm free...'.

The best part of the whole thing, is that I know an older guy who literally goes on some website, meets Chinese women, talks to them (somehow; he speaks no Mandarin), they 'fall in love', he flies there and brings them back to the US, no problems. He's done it 3 times now. The first two both left him. I remember one of them (first wife or second, can't remember which) asking him for a one-way flight to New York so she could visit her family. Beautiful. He seemed surprised when she didn't come back. I can't remember what happened with the other one, but honestly it was similar. It was unbelievable, hearing about it. I guess my point is, there is no way to make the borders secure against people looking to (for some reason) move to the US illegally. CBP is just like God, it's there to make people feel better, so people aren't scared. I'm sure they catch a lot of people who are genuinely trying to move/stay illegally, but they don't catch them all. Besides, the most common threat to the typical American's everyday safety isn't necessarily coming from outside the borders. Most of the shootings aren't the work of illegal foreigners. But we need the guns, you can have them when you take the from my cold dead hands, blah blah.

It's just funny that this guy I know can keep 'trying' with these Chinese women, alright, everything's by the book, nothing to look at here; however, we did everything correctly, just two people who wanted to see each other, but there was some massive, game-changing 'mistake' that led to her immediately being sent back, without a word to me? The situation required such a drastic response? Ohh, I guess they found the book I bought for her in her luggage,'What To Do With Your New (Illegal) Life in the US (Now That You've Successfully Fooled Everyone!). Not the catchiest title but it got good reviews on Amazon. It was a good stocking stuffer is all I'm saying.

Just exactly as I said....CBP are the bad guys, every American's GF/BF/SO is the innocent victim....sounds like you don't care for the laws and regulations of the United States of America...there is no 'quota' for denying admission to arriving aliens...it's not some game played by bored CBP officials...denied admissions occur because the arriving alien gives CBP pause in some way...inconsistent answers, hestitant responses, followed by luggage inspections that often reveal the truth....so once again, I applaud the work of our CBP folks....and don't believe a word you say about them. Perhaps you believe that you could do a much better job sorting out bonafide tourists, etc when they get off the plane....if so, why not seek employment with CBP? In fact, why aren't they sending a car for you, begging you to completely manage the entire border system?

What you might consider doing is have a heart to heart talk with the wife...and, ask her for the I-275 (yes, that's the written report those nasty CBP folks draft when they are denying admission to someone...see if they checked the "quota for the month" denial box...or, as is more likely, there will be a narrative full of evasive answers given by your wife to the CBP folks....