Unions Call for Civil War!

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Edited December 14, 2012 by The Patriot

[Karee 4,191]

Looks a little different when you look at more than one year, doesn't it?

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

FL is looking horrible all the time. AR, NV, AZ not much better. There are more right to work states that more often than not look pretty bad on these charts. If right to work is good for the economy, why are there right to work states that continuously under perform and non-right to work states that always do well? Might it be because right to work is not what drives the economy?

Edited December 14, 2012 by Mr. Big Dog

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Looks a little different when you look at more than one year, doesn't it?

Not really. I can see a handful of right to work states that suck all the time. And there are at least as many non-right to work states that do well all the time. If you think right to work makes an economy better, you're kidding yourself. Come to FL and see for yourself how bad the economy in a right to work state can look year after year after year. Republicans have been running the show here for a decade - with super majorities and a hold on pretty much all statewide offices save a US Senate seat. And where is this state economically? Close to the bottom of the barrel and still sinking. Record high poverty rates, record high unemployment, mediocre median household incomes. Where the proof that Republican policies and right to work bring about economic prosperity? None as far as I can see.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

So after a decade of an average of 3.8% annual GDP growth, Wyoming still trails 3 non-right to work states and the District of Columbia in per capita economic output. ND trails 18 states and D.C (13 of these states and D.C. being non-right to work) after enjoying a decade of 3.5% annual growth over the course of a decade. So, despite right to work and despite the natural resource push that these states enjoyed, they still cannot compete with non-right to work states. That is not saying anything about the majority of the bottom performing states being right to work and the majority of the top producing states being non-right to work. Odd, ain't it?

[Karee 4,191]

So after a decade of an average of 3.8% annual GDP growth, Wyoming still trails 3 non-right to work states and the District of Columbia in per capita economic output. ND trails 18 states and D.C (13 of these states and D.C. being non-right to work) after enjoying a decade of 3.5% annual growth over the course of a decade. So, despite right to work and despite the natural resource push that these states enjoyed, they still cannot compete with non-right to work states. That is not saying anything about the majority of the bottom performing states being right to work and the majority of the top producing states being non-right to work. Odd, ain't it?

When you say "per capita economic output." are you referring to $?

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

And that explains the poor economic output performance of right to work states? Excellent.

So why should I be forced to support a Union if I work somewhere and I do not believe in the goals of that organization. ?

[james&olya 1,121]

So why should I be forced to support a Union if I work somewhere and I do not believe in the goals of that organization. ?

Who forces you to work any particular job? You are free to go work a non-union job!

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Who forces you to work any particular job? You are free to go work a non-union job!

In certain neighborhoods and in certain professions, that is not always an option, if you know what I mean. Belonging to a trade union, for instance, used to mean something. Now it means you pay your dues, work the phone banks, and if you are a good little socialist, we just might find you some work once in a while, if you don't complain too much.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

When you say "per capita economic output." are you referring to $?

Yes, per capita GDP.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

So why should I be forced to support a Union if I work somewhere and I do not believe in the goals of that organization. ?

You're not. If you don't like it, you are free to work a different job. Union jobs make up less than one in five in non-right to work states. The vast majority of workers are non-union in non-right to work states.

[Karee 4,191]

Yes, per capita GDP.

Based on that, of course Wyoming will be near the bottom. I bet it's very cheap to live there. I bet the cost of living is near the bottom as well.

[SMR 368]

Anyone here think that Jimmy Hoffa isn't an oligarch?

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Based on that, of course Wyoming will be near the bottom.

Actually, no. Wyoming is actually up there taking the highest spot among right to work states in per capita GDP just behind the non-right to work states of Delaware, Alaska and Connecticut.

Edited December 14, 2012 by Mr. Big Dog

[Karee 4,191]

Actually, no. Wyoming is actually up there taking the highest spot among right to work states in per capita GDP just behind the non-right to work states of Delaware, Alaska and Connecticut.

Even better. I bet it's cheap to live there as well.