Oregon mall shooting leaves 3 dead, including shooter

[SMOKE 1,426]

Why do you keep trying to ride that failed argument of yours?

i've often wondered why you keep doing that. 'take the guns away from responsible law abiding citizens & the gun violence will go away'..

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

i've often wondered why you keep doing that. 'take the guns away from responsible law abiding citizens & the gun violence will go away'..

That's not the argument I've been making. That's what your and the gun nuts knee-jerk perception of my actual argument is.

You, on the other hand, keep comparing apples and oranges - or guns and cars in this case.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

I don't see anyone in here saying "take the guns away from the law abiding citizens" ... did I miss that?

[Rattlehead 69]

Let's see if I can put this in terms even you can understand. If every person of legal drinking was limited by law to 2 drinks in a 24 hour period, would that cut down on the amount of drunk driving deaths? If any person caught providing alcohol illegally to minors faced a mandatory 10 year jail sentence, would that cut down on the amount of teens killed in alcohol related deaths every year? Basic math, it's so easy to grasp.

And if you ban alcohol, drinking would stop entirely! Oh wait...

[SMOKE 1,426]

That's not the argument I've been making. That's what your and the gun nuts knee-jerk perception of my actual argument is.

You, on the other hand, keep comparing apples and oranges - or guns and cars in this case.

its your arguement everytime the subject of guns is discussed. you can deny it all you want. you know its true.

I don't see anyone in here saying "take the guns away from the law abiding citizens" ... did I miss that?

quit staring at kip's ball. it'll be easier to keep up.

Edited December 12, 2012 by SMOKE

[Teddy B 17,252]

And if you ban alcohol, drinking would stop entirely! Oh wait...

No it wouldn't stop entirely,but there sure would be a heck of a lot less drinking going on, which is exactly my point.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

its your arguement everytime the subject of guns is discussed. you can deny it all you want. you know it true.

No, it isn't. Where have I advocated denying law abiding citizens the right to own guns?

[Penny Lane 8,159]

its your arguement everytime the subject of guns is discussed. you can deny it all you want. you know its true.

quit staring at kip's ball. it'll be easier to keep up.

Did he post that ball again? My brain must block it out by now.

Either way, the argument you say is being made ... isn't, actually. But it's okay.

[SMOKE 1,426]

No it wouldn't stop entirely,but there sure would be a heck of a lot less drinking going on, which is exactly my point.

it worked during prohibition...

[Teddy B 17,252]

I don't see anyone in here saying "take the guns away from the law abiding citizens" ... did I miss that?

Ever notice how the "good ole boy" network are the first to stand up and shout for their personal rights, but then they turn right around and tell everyone else what they can and cannot do? Comical really. Thank goodness they're shrinking in numbers and pretty fast too.

Edited December 12, 2012 by Teddy B

[Karee 4,190]

it worked during prohibition...

Laugh I was gonna say, didn't we try that once?

[SMOKE 1,426]

No, it isn't. Where have I advocated denying law abiding citizens the right to own guns?

what did you mean here?

What's sad is that these nutters all have easy access to the guns with which they kill innocent people. It's that easy access to guns that I fault not the gun itself.

[Teddy B 17,252]

it worked during prohibition...

Was alcohol consumption in the US during prohibition more or less than it was before or after prohibition?

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Let's see if I can put this in terms even you can understand. If every person of legal drinking was limited by law to 2 drinks in a 24 hour period, would that cut down on the amount of drunk driving deaths? If any person caught providing alcohol illegally to minors faced a mandatory 10 year jail sentence, would that cut down on the amount of teens killed in alcohol related deaths every year? Basic math, it's so easy to grasp.

Should I try Chinese? Most states have a two year mandatory minimum sentence for first time offenders in regards to people found with illegal firearms yet it is rarely enforced by the authorities. Now talk it out with the cops and the courts and ask them why they don't enforce the laws they already have on the books.

Lots of states keep lowering the alcohol limit in regards to DWI/DUI's even though the ones they already have make it illegal to drink a single beer and then drive seeing how that one beer will put you over the limit if you take a breathalizer withing X amount of time after drinking that one 12oz. beer yet they continue to keep lowering the limit. It's about enforcing the laws already on the books. Kind of like how the US doesn't enforce it's own immigration laws.

Edited December 12, 2012 by Bad_Daddy

[SMOKE 1,426]

Was alcohol consumption in the US during prohibition more or less than it was before or after prohibition?

idk it was before my time. i know it made a lot of people a lot of money while it was illegal.