Two Sets of Rules: Obama’s Criminal, Illegal Alien Uncle May Get to Stay

[scotinmass 588]

To further keep the thread factual, I think it should be noted that I was posting quite happily until I was told I was a liar about my origins and I could not understand English and there was more about a labotomy and so on

I am simply saying that this kind of talk has no place on this forum and I refuse to be seen as equally to blame as the instigator, simply because I object to it

If there is no place for fairness in this regard, then coming to a fair conclusion about the uncle would seem to be even more remote

Yes, carry on with the thread...

Oh don't worry we all know who the nasty insulting moronic posters are. The ones who can dish out all the insults to everyone but when they get it back they cry like a little girl!

[Captain Oates 911]

Oh don't worry we all know who the nasty insulting moronic posters are. The ones who can dish out all the insults to everyone but when they get it back they cry like a little girl!

That isn't worthy of VJ and I come here to debate and not engage in that sort of talk.

I could get that sort of talk on thingtube

Please proceed with the thread

[scotinmass 588]

That isn't worthy of VJ and I come here to debate and not engage in that sort of talk.

I could get that sort of talk on thingtube

Please proceed with the thread

Well as you've probably discovered some people dislike Obama so much that debating with them is pointless because they'll never be able to see the other persons opinion.

This thread is a typical example. Obama's uncle came to this country when Obama was 2 years old. He had deportation proceedings against him abandoned when Obama was a student at Harvard but it appears that they think Obama instigated a conspiracy to keep his uncle in the country. Anyone who is not clouded by a passionate dislike of the president can see this is ridiculous.

As I pointed out earlier in this thread Obama's uncle getting his license returned after a DUI is not unusual in Mass. It does not mean that the governor (who is also a black democrat) had anything to do with it.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Obama's uncle came to this country when Obama was 2 years old. He had deportation proceedings against him abandoned when Obama was a student at Harvard but it appears that they think Obama instigated a conspiracy to keep his uncle in the country.

His uncle probably has the evidence of Obama's birth in Nairobi. He's got his nephew by the balls, man.

[scotinmass 588]

His uncle probably has the evidence of Obama's birth in Nairobi. He's got his nephew by the balls, man.

All the more reason for him to be deported!

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

All the more reason for him to be deported!

But he'll spill it if Obama doesn't ensure that he gets to stay here and that he get to drive around drunk in MA. Don't you see?

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

You are just posting one insult after another and you need to pack that in because if you don't, you will find that my command of English is more than adequate to deal with the likes of you

I read your post but you are obsessed with the recent years and you are ignoring all the previous decades and refuse to talk about them

You are so obsessed with pinning something on Barry that you ignore anything earlier

Not that I find any of your post on this thread insulting to those of us who can read and comprehend the English language. I read that article word for word and it contradicts just about every post of yours on this thread.

[Love's JAA 100]

Not that I find any of your post on this thread insulting to those of us who can read and comprehend the English language. I read that article word for word and it contradicts just about every post of yours on this thread.

I can know good how read english speak!

[Captain Oates 911]

Well as you've probably discovered some people dislike Obama so much that debating with them is pointless because they'll never be able to see the other persons opinion.

This thread is a typical example. Obama's uncle came to this country when Obama was 2 years old. He had deportation proceedings against him abandoned when Obama was a student at Harvard but it appears that they think Obama instigated a conspiracy to keep his uncle in the country. Anyone who is not clouded by a passionate dislike of the president can see this is ridiculous.

As I pointed out earlier in this thread Obama's uncle getting his license returned after a DUI is not unusual in Mass. It does not mean that the governor (who is also a black democrat) had anything to do with it.

A good post, I totally agree

I think the DMV (or whatever they call it there), should give a full explanation but they may be hampered by privacy laws

Perhaps the uncle can be persuaded to wave his right to data privacy so that we can have full transparency

I was going to suggest a judge could look in to it and report whether all aspects of the law were complied with, but without publishing confidential details, but that wouldn't work as the conspiracists would just see a deepening conspiracy

The issue here is the right wing trying to unseat the President, and if everything become public, and if it was all above board, the right would just switch their attack to something else. They don't care about this issue as an issue, only for its potential as for danging their enemy

[Harsh_77 718]

The governor is probably wondering about that, too. Thanks for confirming that you can't back up your ridiculous assertion that the governor stepped in. Looks like you have done some stepping into it yourself here. Congratulations!

What facts are those? Assertions are not facts. Maybe in Alaska they are but in the real world, they are not.

I hope the governor is wondering the same and does call an inquiry into the DMV officals or whoever is acountable for such a lapse. Case where someone who should not have a DL has got one and after DUI accident the DL was re-instated.

[Harsh_77 718]

I think it boils down to people having suspicions, but instead of asking for more details, they simply construct a conspiracy theory

I would prefer to wait for details form the DMV, but there is no way that their statement of it being per the rules would have been made, if it patently was not according to the rules. It is obvious that there would be further need for explanations so they wouldn't say that knowing they would need to back it up

My money is on the DMV

There was no conspiracy theory... I think the OP is pointing to fact that is US turning into state where it matter whom you know and rules can be bent and broken and there would be no action taken against the violator.

As of the DMV(RMV) official here was there statement from another news clipping.

“A spokeswoman for the Massachusetts agency— Registry of Motor Vehicles—that reinstated Obama’s license this week said “he met all of the criteria,” but refused to elaborate on what exactly that means. When a reporter questioned an illegal immigrant getting a driver’s license, the state agency spokeswoman snapped back saying “registry business is based on registry records.”

[JohnR! 5,495]

A good post, I totally agree

I think the DMV (or whatever they call it there), should give a full explanation but they may be hampered by privacy laws

Perhaps the uncle can be persuaded to wave his right to data privacy so that we can have full transparency

I was going to suggest a judge could look in to it and report whether all aspects of the law were complied with, but without publishing confidential details, but that wouldn't work as the conspiracists would just see a deepening conspiracy

The issue here is the right wing trying to unseat the President, and if everything become public, and if it was all above board, the right would just switch their attack to something else. They don't care about this issue as an issue, only for its potential as for danging their enemy

The fact is that in the big scheme of things this entire story is a non-story at best. To be sure, it is remarkably expedient for some to find an angle from which to attack the POTUS for all the ailments in our planet, and possibly perhaps, throughout the galaxy as well. Most likely it was just another slow day in the trollosphere...

[Captain Oates 911]

There was no conspiracy theory... I think the OP is pointing to fact that is US turning into state where it matter whom you know and rules can be bent and broken and there would be no action taken against the violator.

As of the DMV(RMV) official here was there statement from another news clipping.

“A spokeswoman for the Massachusetts agency— Registry of Motor Vehicles—that reinstated Obama’s license this week said “he met all of the criteria,” but refused to elaborate on what exactly that means. When a reporter questioned an illegal immigrant getting a driver’s license, the state agency spokeswoman snapped back saying “registry business is based on registry records.”

I think data privacy is stopping the spokeswoman going into details

I hope the uncle will wave his privacy rights so that full details can be given

I think it will all be above board when all the the ins and outs are available for examination

If the white house had made a call saying give him a license, there is no way it would not have come out because any employee there could have made MILLIONS out of blowing the whistle

The money tells me it was all normal

[Harsh_77 718]

I think data privacy is stopping the spokeswoman going into details

I hope the uncle will wave his privacy rights so that full details can be given

I think it will all be above board when all the the ins and outs are available for examination

If the white house had made a call saying give him a license, there is no way it would not have come out because any employee there could have made MILLIONS out of blowing the whistle

The money tells me it was all normal

Well first place the case was made public by his own uncle... ppl / press did not go digging into it, so not sure if the privacy rights fall in or not.

Maybe the call was not made directly from WH but the state officials knew he was related to president and if they did not apply the law based on that relation than that is wrong.

All the laws that are applicable to any citizen should be applicable to him as well is my argument he should not be above the law just coz he is related to president.

Also when press or ppl ask the authorities about how something was done like in this case issuing of DL in first place the answer from authorities should be more detail not just vague like it is internal matter kinda stuff.

At end of the day each public official are accountable to the citizens... its the citizens who are paying their salary.

[Captain Oates 911]

Well first place the case was made public by his own uncle... ppl / press did not go digging into it, so not sure if the privacy rights fall in or not.

Maybe the call was not made directly from WH but the state officials knew he was related to president and if they did not apply the law based on that relation than that is wrong.

All the laws that are applicable to any citizen should be applicable to him as well is my argument he should not be above the law just coz he is related to president.

Also when press or ppl ask the authorities about how something was done like in this case issuing of DL in first place the answer from authorities should be more detail not just vague like it is internal matter kinda stuff.

At end of the day each public official are accountable to the citizens... its the citizens who are paying their salary.

I totally agree with all of that...

The State needs to be more forthcoming and certainty we should all be equal under the law

However, bad stuff always comes out if it is there - especially when anyone in the State Admin could go to Fox News /Ricard Murdoch and get 5 million for the story of wrongdoing

Heck if I worked in the DMV, I would take the 5 mill and say "sack me"...

That's why I think there is nothing there