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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Mexico
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I am a US citizen by birth wanting to marry my fiance who is a resident of Mexico. What do I need, to legally marry there? Is it recognizable in US? Will this hurt our case in applying for his visa, marrying outside of US?

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If you marry in Mexico, it will invalidate your I-129F petition (which you've filed, per your thread in the K-1 Process forum). You would need to withdraw the I-129F petition, marry in Mexico, and file an I-130.

It's apparently rather complex to marry in Mexico; those familiar with the requirements will be along to explain them. Legal marriages worldwide are recognized in the U.S., and legitimate marriages with evidence of bona fide relationship don't hurt your case.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Mexico
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If you marry in Mexico, it will invalidate your I-129F petition (which you've filed, per your thread in the K-1 Process forum). You would need to withdraw the I-129F petition, marry in Mexico, and file an I-130.

It's apparently rather complex to marry in Mexico; those familiar with the requirements will be along to explain them. Legal marriages worldwide are recognized in the U.S., and legitimate marriages with evidence of bona fide relationship don't hurt your case.

Thank you :) Yes, I am actually considering to change plans in our visa. Being that I am very worried that a fiance visa will be denied, due to me having no income for several years and cannot solely sponsor him. My mother is completely disabled and I am her caretaker, without any monetary compensation. From my understanding, it is at the actual officers discretion to whether or not they allow me to have a co-sponsor with form I-134. But with the Cr1 visa a joint sponsor is always accepted, if they meet criteria. And I fear that I will go thru this entire process of K1 visa, paying fees and wasting time, only to have visa denied.

We are also going to be required to file an I-601 waiver, due to him residing illegally in the US, where he is facing 10 year ban. Several have informed me, that chances of getting the waiver approved is much slimmer on a fiance visa than it is a spousal visa. That itself, is another long process, after visa denial, with fees and procedures as well.

So, as of now, I am weighing all of the options and looking more into advise from others on this site. I want to take the best possible route, because my mother needs us with her. But I love him so very much, it hurts not having him here with me and I feel very torn. I don't know what to do.

But I need to know if I can marry him in Mexico and go that route if need be. And what all is required in doing so.

I know there is still time to think this thru, being my K1 visa has only begun (Nov. 20th 2012).

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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You can go atop any VJ page and click the "Embassy Info" and "Reviews: Embassy" links, and then search for information about Juarez. I also sent you a personal message.

Say... from the standpoint of a VJ Organizer, I'm tasked in part with minimizing the number of duplicate or greatly overlapping threads. Please be assured that if you post ONE message, it WILL be read, and you'll receive sensible and sensitive responses. It's best for you for this to happen in a single thread, so that all the information is in one place and posters can build upon what's already been said. Therefore, if I or another Organizer makes some of your duplicate threads invisible, it's both for VJ purposes and in your interest -- you deserve to have your information intact in one place. :)

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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You can go atop any VJ page and click the "Embassy Info" and "Reviews: Embassy" links, and then search for information about Juarez. I also sent you a personal message.

Say... from the standpoint of a VJ Organizer, I'm tasked in part with minimizing the number of duplicate or greatly overlapping threads. Please be assured that if you post ONE message, it WILL be read, and you'll receive sensible and sensitive responses. It's best for you for this to happen in a single thread, so that all the information is in one place and posters can build upon what's already been said. Therefore, if I or another Organizer makes some of your duplicate threads invisible, it's both for VJ purposes and in your interest -- you deserve to have your information intact in one place. :)

Thank you, and that is completely understandable. I am just learning to navigate this site, and it is becoming more clear to me now. This is a wonderful site and I am very appreciative to the information available. I did receive your wonderful advise, in message, and have responded :)

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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Thank you, and that is completely understandable. I am just learning to navigate this site, and it is becoming more clear to me now. This is a wonderful site and I am very appreciative to the information available. I did receive your wonderful advise, in message, and have responded :)
Got it, and thank you for your complete and refreshingly literate explanation. I think that you can relax a lot more now, si man. :)

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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Got it, and thank you for your complete and refreshingly literate explanation. I think that you can relax a lot more now, si man. :)

I sure wish I could relax, and look at it from my fiance's perspective. Yet, whenever I do anything, I give it everything I have got in me. Therefore, I don't believe I will be comfortable with any of this and relaxing, until we learn the outcome :( This site has helped me tremendously though, and I am thankful for that :)

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Ok, I think I now have the information, for those of you who are wondering the same thing as I was. It is indeed a VERY complex procedure.

First step: Will need to have US birth certificate translated into Spanish, as well as previous divorce decrees. Take those to a local Mexican consulates office (here in US) to have them notarized, with seal. From there, will take them to Dept. of State to have certified and translated documents given in Spanish.

Step two: Will take those items plus stamped passport and travel permit (issued once crossing the border) to Mexican Embassy to apply for permission, to legally marry a Mexican resident. There are fees involved, not sure what that costs, but have been told it is between $200-$300 dollars. There is usually a waiting period, as well.

Step three: If given permission, will then need to find doctor to do blood tests and x-rays, and get clean bill of health or obtain treatment for underlying issues.

Step four: will apply for marriage license, after all requirements are met and proven. And then can officially have a civil wedding, where it will be legal and binding.

*****Mexican resident will also have to have proper identification, proof of residence, blood work and x-rays and be present when applying for marriage license. Will also need two witnesses.

>>>>>>And if a church wedding is desired, there are more information and documents that will need to be submitted to church and priest. But a church wedding is more so for religious beliefs and is not legally binding. A civil wedding IS formally accepted in US and around the world. <<<<<<< It is tradition in Mexico to do one or the other. And some will do both, depending on family values and religious beliefs.

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Ok, I think I now have the information, for those of you who are wondering the same thing as I was. It is indeed a VERY complex procedure.

First step: Will need to have US birth certificate translated into Spanish, as well as previous divorce decrees. Take those to a local Mexican consulates office (here in US) to have them notarized, with seal. From there, will take them to Dept. of State to have certified and translated documents given in Spanish.

Step two: Will take those items plus stamped passport and travel permit (issued once crossing the border) to Mexican Embassy to apply for permission, to legally marry a Mexican resident. There are fees involved, not sure what that costs, but have been told it is between $200-$300 dollars. There is usually a waiting period, as well.

Step three: If given permission, will then need to find doctor to do blood tests and x-rays, and get clean bill of health or obtain treatment for underlying issues.

Step four: will apply for marriage license, after all requirements are met and proven. And then can officially have a civil wedding, where it will be legal and binding.

*****Mexican resident will also have to have proper identification, proof of residence, blood work and x-rays and be present when applying for marriage license. Will also need two witnesses.

>>>>>>And if a church wedding is desired, there are more information and documents that will need to be submitted to church and priest. But a church wedding is more so for religious beliefs and is not legally binding. A civil wedding IS formally accepted in US and around the world. <<<<<<< It is tradition in Mexico to do one or the other. And some will do both, depending on family values and religious beliefs.

Wow it's a very complete explanation! :thumbs:

Just one thing on the Step 3, the X rays and blood tests are not a MUST to get married, neither the 2 witnesses

My husband and I got married in Mexico, and yes, it's a complex process, but we were not required at all the blood tests, x rays and such. We asked at Registro Civil (the office where you get married at for civil marriage)and they said it's absoultely not necessary to do it and also NO WITNESSES are required since 2001.

But it's SO TRUE that they ask to the mexican resident for copies of everything: birth certificate in original and copy (it has to be not older than 3 years),copy of ID (or IFE), proof of residence (such as phone bill, electric bill), fill out some forms.

And very important!! You need to hire a TRANSLATOR to be present at the ceremony and make a simultaneous translation, since they have to make sure that the foreign spouse knows and understands what Mexican law states and as well what is he/she signing for. That translation service costs around $4000 mexican pesos (little more than $300 USD) and the translator has to certified and his/her name has to be listed in Diario Oficial of current year.

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Wedding: April 19th 2012

USCIS (226 days)

NOA1: June 4th 2012

NOA2: January 16th 2013 (226 days after NOA1)

NOA2 hardcopy: January 19th 2013

NVC

Case received 01/21/2013

Case number,IIN and Beneficiary ID 02/05/2013

Case complete 03/20/2013

Medical exam 05/09/2013

Interview 05/13/2013-APPROVED

Received passport with visa 05/16/2013
POE 05/22/2013

ROC

I-751 sent 02/27/2015

NOA 03/03/2015
Biometrics 04/10/2015

Approval: 09/17/2015

GC in mail: 09/26/2015

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