Israel's response to the U.N.

[himher 634]

Or maybe it wont. Our nation and our principles were founded on a will to resist also and it was a lot longer than 100 years ago.

If you were around over 100 years ago, you would have seen that. Seems they had a hard time keeping Geronimo on the reservation, and there was that incident in South Dakota, something about Ghost Dancers. Maybe if the situation hasn't changed in another 100 years for the Palestinians, and neglect and despair and time changes their will to resist...

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Or maybe it wont. Our nation and our principles were founded on a will to resist also and it was a lot longer than 100 years ago.

Huh? Who has been keeping Americans away from their homes for over 100 years?

[himher 634]

Who said anyone was keeping Americans away from their homes?

duh you dodged that "can native americans live anywhere they want question"

Huh? Who has been keeping Americans away from their homes for over 100 years?

Edited December 2, 2012 by himher

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Who said anyone was keeping Americans away from their homes?

Try to stay on the road.

[himher 634]

Good idea lets get back on track

Our nation and our principles were founded on a will to resist also and it was a lot longer than 100 years ago.

duh you dodged that "can native americans live anywhere they want question"

Try to stay on the road.

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[himher 634]

yeah think it over lol

ima go back to the Texas game

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

duh you dodged that "can native americans live anywhere they want question"

You have compare what Europeans did to Native Americans in the 1800's to what Israeli's are doing to the Palestinians now, unless you are telling Palestinians to just wait at least another 100 years for their lives to improve.

[himher 634]

I specifically and succinctly said that any comparison between the Palestinians and native Americans is stupid.

You must have missed that.

OH you forgot to answer the question and I will spell it out: Can. native. americans. live. and. go. anywhere. they. wish. in. the. United. States. and. enjoy. any. freedom. that. any. other. american. can. enjoy.

Your answer will confirm my opinion of the above. Stupid comparison. Noticed big daddy found somewhere else to go. Good.

You have compare what Europeans did to Native Americans in the 1800's to what Israeli's are doing to the Palestinians now, unless you are telling Palestinians to just wait at least another 100 years for their lives to improve.

Edited December 2, 2012 by himher

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

I specifically and succinctly said that any comparison between the Palestinians and native Americans is stupid.

The parallels between the historical experiences of dispossession and colonization of the Palestinian and Native American peoples, and the similarities in the discourses of land and belonging of the two peoples, proved strong enough to once move Palestinian poet Mahmoud Darwish to write the poem “Speech of the Red Indian.”

Dispossession, Soil, and Identity in Palestinian and Native American Literature

The current plight of Palestinians increasingly resembles the tragic demise of Native Americans. To have become refugees in their own land, hounded and derided by a superior military and economic entity, and to have endured mostly apathy from the outside world as well as the inevitable corruption and authoritarianism of ‘their own leaders’ are markers of both experiences. The aim of this short essay is to demonstrate (some of) the commonalities and differences that have shaped these two struggles.

Reservation Politics: the Palestinian experience through the historical monocle of Native Americans - Melancholic Troglodytes

[himher 634]

yeah no kidding blink blink

Here's my position. No native American is prevented from doing anything in America that anyone else can't do and otherwise is free to do what they wish outside their own lands and self govern and do what the rest of us cant do within their own lands. You dont see the difference sport?

The plight of the Palestinian people more resembles the Jewish people in Nazi Germany than it resembles the "plight" of native Americans

which makes the Israelis what?

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[Karee 4,190]

yeah no kidding blink blink

Here's my position. No native American is prevented from doing anything in America that anyone else can't do and otherwise is free to do what they wish outside their own lands and self govern and do what the rest of us cant do within their own lands. You dont see the difference sport?

The plight of the Palestinian people more resembles the Jewish people in Nazi Germany than it resembles the "plight" of native Americans

which makes the Israelis what?

+1000

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

The plight of the Palestinian people more resembles the Jewish people in Nazi Germany than it resembles the "plight" of native Americans

which makes the Israelis what?

Well, when Israel's neighbors and the rest of the world look the other way while Jews exterminate 6 million Palestinians, then your analogy will bear fruit. In the meantime, Israel is functioning as more like South Africa did under Apartheid than Germany did under Hitler.

[decocker 7,198]

Well, when Israel's neighbors and the rest of the world look the other way while Jews exterminate 6 million Palestinians, then your analogy will bear fruit. In the meantime, Israel is functioning as more like South Africa did under Apartheid than Germany did under Hitler.

true.

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

There are many parallels between what happened to the Native Americans and what has been happening to the Palestinians for the past 7 decades or so - the massacres, the expulsions, the confiscation of homeland, etc.

But there are also some big differences.

Unlike the hundreds of different Native American tribes, the Palestinians are one people. Jewish immigration, conquest, occupation and settlement did not wipe out or even nearly wipe out the Palestinians; in fact, those who managed to remain in historic Palestine still outnumber the Jews living there. Unlike in North America, the Jewish colonists did not become the majority in the region; they are still a minority.

Also, the world is a very different place than it was in 1840, when almost no country allowed women to vote, slavery was legal, child labor was legal, etc. etc. etc. Should we bring back those conditions, too ? Hasbarists who try to defend Israel's criminal behavior today by pointing to the barbarism of the past are just another example of the immorality of Zionism. Nobody is "entitled" to carry out ethnic cleansing.

Sure, there is still discrimination against ethnic minorities in many countries, including the U.S. and Canada. However, the U.S. and Canada are not controlling millions of their Native Americans who aren't even given the right to vote, or to marry people from certain ethnic backgrounds, or buy a home in a particular neighborhood, or to travel from one part of their country to another, etc. etc.

Israel is living in an age that the rest of the world has long since moved on from.

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[himher 634]

Fair. I yield you South Africa under Apartheid with the mix of killing people who protest it, including Americans. On the basis of what we have learned (and yes we learned it over time and sometimes in hard lessons written in blood) is right and wrong it's wrong, hands down, and we are wrong to fund it and support it. Extermination by the hundreds or thousands is no better than extermination by the millions and the ONLY difference is the number of zeroes.

Well, when Israel's neighbors and the rest of the world look the other way while Jews exterminate 6 million Palestinians, then your analogy will bear fruit. In the meantime, Israel is functioning as more like South Africa did under Apartheid than Germany did under Hitler.

Edited December 2, 2012 by himher