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[Milz713 0]

Hi, I am in the process of putting together all of the info to get a K-1 visa for my Russian fiancee, I helped her with the G325-a and letter of intent by filling them out on my computer and emailing them to her and she then printed them and signed them. Everything was stuffed into a envelope on Monday and today it arrived so I ripped the envelope open to check everything and low and behold she printed her name instead of using what I would call a "American" signature in cursive. I tried to explain to her that she needed a unique signature and even found a website where you could type in a name and it gives 20 different examples, she told me she understood but now that I have the doc's I dont think she did. I just got off of the phone with a Robot woman and USISC and she said that if that is how she writes her name then it is fine but she doesnt understand that she doesnt write her name that way because she uses the Russian alphabet and doesnt read or write English, has anyone else had this happen? Any advice? Do you think it is ok? We have both been very careful in getting the doc's ready and didnt want any mistakes so I feel like I just got hit with a sledge and I am not sure if I should have her reprint and send everything again,,,, Thanks for your help!!!

[Altair17 9]

pretty much I was in somewhat similar situation. As long as she will use same "signature" when getting visa it would be ok. But if you're familiar with russian process of internal vs external passports, she already signed her external passport and if embassy will check against it (it will be available to them), and asks casual question "why are these different", and she wont answer "I changed signature since I received this passport" - there may be a problem.

If you havent sent those in yet - it would be safer to get those again, asking her to just sign it in the same way as on her international passport.

[Milz713 0]

pretty much I was in somewhat similar situation. As long as she will use same "signature" when getting visa it would be ok. But if you're familiar with russian process of internal vs external passports, she already signed her external passport and if embassy will check against it (it will be available to them), and asks casual question "why are these different", and she wont answer "I changed signature since I received this passport" - there may be a problem.

If you havent sent those in yet - it would be safer to get those again, asking her to just sign it in the same way as on her international passport.

I just called USISC again because I also had the question about blue vs black ink, they said that blue or black ink and then I asked again about signature, I wanted to know what there definition of a signature is and they said in English or native as long as it is legible or even a X is sufficient but no abbreviations, I have a copy of her Russian passport and it is not legible and it looks like abbreviations, I think it will be ok and the Robot girls at USISC seem to think it is ok, if they ask at the embassy why she changed it I think the answer would have to be because the instructions said it must be legible,, any thoughts?

[Altair17 9]

I just called USISC again because I also had the question about blue vs black ink, they said that blue or black ink and then I asked again about signature, I wanted to know what there definition of a signature is and they said in English or native as long as it is legible or even a X is sufficient but no abbreviations, I have a copy of her Russian passport and it is not legible and it looks like abbreviations, I think it will be ok and the Robot girls at USISC seem to think it is ok, if they ask at the embassy why she changed it I think the answer would have to be because the instructions said it must be legible,, any thoughts?

it would be best to avoid this question at all. Remember, you got an asnwer for USCIS and this might do just fine for them, however the problem I am mentioning would take place almost at the end of the process: during visa interview. imho, it's best not to attact attention to it, but be prepared to answer the questions in a vague way: "the signature on the russian passport is my russian signature, and the signature on the form is the one I will us as english singature until I can develop something better".

btw, you're right virtually all russians have signartures that look like abbreviations and bunch of pretty looking lines, girls are practicing their signatures from like 5-6th grade, and by 10-11th they're practicing their "married" signatures, trying on the last names from the boys that asked them out.

[Milz713 0]

it would be best to avoid this question at all. Remember, you got an asnwer for USCIS and this might do just fine for them, however the problem I am mentioning would take place almost at the end of the process: during visa interview. imho, it's best not to attact attention to it, but be prepared to answer the questions in a vague way: "the signature on the russian passport is my russian signature, and the signature on the form is the one I will us as english singature until I can develop something better".

btw, you're right virtually all russians have signartures that look like abbreviations and bunch of pretty looking lines, girls are practicing their signatures from like 5-6th grade, and by 10-11th they're practicing their "married" signatures, trying on the last names from the boys that asked them out.

Thanks for your reply, I was also thinking the same about answering in a vague way if the question comes up, it must be a common thing and it isint like we are trying to deceive anyone, the funny thing is after I found the website that gives examples of your signature she said ahhhh now I understand, I told her to pick one and practice and she did one and I said thats it, perfect now remember to sign everything the same and write the date american style, well she got the date right))

[Pinkrlion 2,724]

Hi, I am in the process of putting together all of the info to get a K-1 visa for my Russian fiancee, I helped her with the G325-a and letter of intent by filling them out on my computer and emailing them to her and she then printed them and signed them. Everything was stuffed into a envelope on Monday and today it arrived so I ripped the envelope open to check everything and low and behold she printed her name instead of using what I would call a "American" signature in cursive. I tried to explain to her that she needed a unique signature and even found a website where you could type in a name and it gives 20 different examples, she told me she understood but now that I have the doc's I dont think she did. I just got off of the phone with a Robot woman and USISC and she said that if that is how she writes her name then it is fine but she doesnt understand that she doesnt write her name that way because she uses the Russian alphabet and doesnt read or write English, has anyone else had this happen? Any advice? Do you think it is ok? We have both been very careful in getting the doc's ready and didnt want any mistakes so I feel like I just got hit with a sledge and I am not sure if I should have her reprint and send everything again,,,, Thanks for your help!!!

A signature is whatever the petitioner or beneficiary calls their signature. Not everyone writes in cursive. My fiance' printed his name on all the paperwork, I had no problems. Also, that is not his signature on his passport, and I had NO problems.

Edited December 1, 2012 by Pinkrlion

[baron555 934]

Hi, I am in the process of putting together all of the info to get a K-1 visa for my Russian fiancee, I helped her with the G325-a and letter of intent by filling them out on my computer and emailing them to her and she then printed them and signed them. Everything was stuffed into a envelope on Monday and today it arrived so I ripped the envelope open to check everything and low and behold she printed her name instead of using what I would call a "American" signature in cursive. I tried to explain to her that she needed a unique signature and even found a website where you could type in a name and it gives 20 different examples, she told me she understood but now that I have the doc's I dont think she did. I just got off of the phone with a Robot woman and USISC and she said that if that is how she writes her name then it is fine but she doesnt understand that she doesnt write her name that way because she uses the Russian alphabet and doesnt read or write English, has anyone else had this happen? Any advice? Do you think it is ok? We have both been very careful in getting the doc's ready and didnt want any mistakes so I feel like I just got hit with a sledge and I am not sure if I should have her reprint and send everything again,,,, Thanks for your help!!!

Go with it. You have to submit new letters of intent at the interview and you can have her resign a new G325A and bring that to the interview. Maybe that's her signature?