A NOT politically correct view on Homosexuality.

[Danno 1,228]

so then, you believe that the reason most people don't partake in incest is because there's a law forbidding it? i don't.

if there were a law against smoking or drinking during pregnancy - how would you enforce it? would you put the offending moms in jail and put their kids up for adoption once they're born? would there be some sort of mommy probation put in place.

why is the default answer to every negative behavior more policing?

there's a reason that the u.s has the largest prison population in the world - we seem to believe that by locking people up we can modify their behavior. there are more than six million people rotting in jail right now. do you feel safer?

Read more: http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-03-23/news/31228384_1_drugs-prisoners-jail#ixzz2CyIFkK8B

Actually yes I do feel safer and over all we are safer. IF you follow the crime stats you will see often drops in crime took place after harsher sentencing laws were passed , oddly enough states which allowed conceal carry saw an even greater drop in crime.

I would favor a more "creative" punishment system. Incarceration the most expensive form should be reserved for violent type or non-conforming offenders ...if you want to peddle pot and get caught, you get mandatory community service. which would be revamped which would be more uniformed and useful.

Canning also holds great appeal and hope, it is low cost, fast and provides a huge incentive for others not to commit similar acts... especially when viewed on cable TV during the family hour. It would also make a heII of a pay-per-view source of income.

[decocker 7,198]

Actually yes I do feel safer and over all we are safer. IF you follow the crime stats you will see often drops in crime took place after harsher sentencing laws were passed , oddly enough states which allowed conceal carry saw an even greater drop in crime.

it's a good thing that the u.s. is the world leader in imprisonment? seems backwards to me. i feel less safe knowing that my country locks people up at a rate far surpassing all others.

and i have absolutely no understanding of your support for caning. that completely blows my mind. that you would find the public embarrassment and destruction of one family (you do realize most all criminals have families, right?)entertainment for your own family. disgust sir, and mighty christian of ya.

[jaycali 415]

Actually yes I do feel safer and over all we are safer. IF you follow the crime stats you will see often drops in crime took place after harsher sentencing laws were passed , oddly enough states which allowed conceal carry saw an even greater drop in crime.I would favor a more "creative" punishment system. Incarceration the most expensive form should be reserved for violent type or non-conforming offenders ...if you want to peddle pot and get caught, you get mandatory community service. which would be revamped which would be more uniformed and useful. Canning also holds great appeal and hope, it is low cost, fast and provides a huge incentive for others not to commit similar acts... especially when viewed on cable TV during the family hour. It would also make a heII of a pay-per-view source of income.

Norway has one of the lowest prisoner recidivism rates in the entire world. Only 20% of prisoners ever return to prison (compared to over 60% in the US and the UK).

It also has one of the most "humane" prison systems in the world. We actually have a prison where every prisoner gets a flat screen TV, and a prison yard built specifically not to resemble a prison yard (google Halden Prison). Sentences are often in the 15 - 20 year range for murder, and the maximum possible sentence is 21 years (though this can be extended indefinitely if the prisoner is still considered a threat to society). Temporary weekend leave from prison is common for low-risk inmates, and many prisoners have access to private rooms for conjugal and family visits.

The sole goal of the prison system is rehabilitation, and the lack of freedom is the only stated punishment.

While I think this is completely insane, and don't agree one bit - I do believe it actually has an effect on re-offender rates. What often decides if a prisoner re-offends is not how crappy his last x years were, but what he's left with when he's back on the outside. In short, a person who doesn't feel human, won't have the same sympathy or respect for other humans.

Edited November 23, 2012 by Jay Jay

[decocker 7,198]

While I think this is completely insane, and don't agree one bit - I do believe it actually has an effect on re-offender rates. What often decides if a prisoner re-offends is not how crappy his last x years were, but what he's left with when he's back on the outside. In short, a person who doesn't feel human, won't have the same sympathy or respect for other humans.

you don't agree with humane rehabilitation. it's completely insane. but it works.

[jaycali 415]

you don't agree with humane rehabilitation. it's completely insane. but it works.

It does work. But if anyone in my family was a victim of a heinous crime I'd have no interest in seeing the offender rehabilitated any time soon.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Norway has one of the lowest prisoner recidivism rates in the entire world. Only 20% of prisoners ever return to prison (compared to over 60% in the US and the UK).

It also has one of the most "humane" prison systems in the world. We actually have a prison where every prisoner gets a flat screen TV, and a prison yard built specifically not to resemble a prison yard (google Halden Prison). Sentences are often in the 15 - 20 year range for murder, and the maximum possible sentence is 21 years (though this can be extended indefinitely if the prisoner is still considered a threat to society). Temporary weekend leave from prison is common for low-risk inmates, and many prisoners have access to private rooms for conjugal and family visits.

The sole goal of the prison system is rehabilitation, and the lack of freedom is the only stated punishment.

While I think this is completely insane, and don't agree one bit - I do believe it actually has an effect on re-offender rates. What often decides if a prisoner re-offends is not how crappy his last x years were, but what he's left with when he's back on the outside. In short, a person who doesn't feel human, won't have the same sympathy or respect for other humans.

I tell you what... Let's build that model Prison right outside Chicago and let's use the sentencing guidelines and prison model for the violent offenders of Chicago. Let me know how that works out !! :rofl:

[jaycali 415]

I tell you what... Let's build that model Prison right outside Chicago and let's use the sentencing guidelines and prison model for the violent offenders of Chicago. Let me know how that works out !! :rofl:

All I know is if I was living on the street, I'd rob a bank to get in!

[justashooter 430]

Amazing the offensive ####### people get away with posting here.

not for the lack of your buzzing the moderators, i'm sure.

more amsazing, that young people in America have been brainwashed into accepting a deviant behaviour that does not serve the species need, rather, inhibits, it, as normal.

read desmond morris. he wrote simply enuf for you to understand. every deviant in our society that exists in an unnatural relationship reduces our chance of survival as a species.

[decocker 7,198]

not for the lack of your buzzing the moderators, i'm sure.

more amsazing, that young people in America have been brainwashed into accepting a deviant behaviour that does not serve the species need, rather, inhibits, it, as normal.

read desmond morris. he wrote simply enuf for you to understand. every deviant in our society that exists in an unnatural relationship reduces our chance of survival as a species.

oh look, you've given us another example of offensive #######.

[justashooter 430]

oh look, you've given us another example of offensive #######.

everyone creates their own legitimacy and relevance. it is the sign of the times...

the only man who offends no one is the man who stands for nothing. but then, is he a man?

[Penny Lane 8,159]

not for the lack of your buzzing the moderators, i'm sure.

more amsazing, that young people in America have been brainwashed into accepting a deviant behaviour that does not serve the species need, rather, inhibits, it, as normal.

read desmond morris. he wrote simply enuf for you to understand. every deviant in our society that exists in an unnatural relationship reduces our chance of survival as a species.

It's a shame you can't communicate without saying garbage like that.

[decocker 7,198]

everyone creates their own legitimacy and relevance. it is the sign of the times...

the only man who offends no one is the man who stands for nothing. but then, is he a man?

the offensiveness isn't so much about having an opinion, it's about ignorance. having "deviant" friends and family members makes me defensive when another person degrades them.

[justashooter 430]

the offensiveness isn't so much about having an opinion, it's about ignorance. having "deviant" friends and family members makes me defensive when another person degrades them.

to describe is not necessarily to degrade. the inference of degradation is your own projection, not my implication. it belongs to your own internal conflict about the matter.

speaking from a purely biological perspective, our primary objectives as human beings are to survive, and reproduce in kind, and thereby perpetuate the species. this is undeniable. anyone who does not participate in the natural process of such is "deviant" by definition. they are not acting in accordance with the needs of the species.

how you want to feel about their being described as such is up to you.

[decocker 7,198]

to describe is not necessarily to degrade. the inference of degradation is your own projection, not my implication. it belongs to your own internal conflict about the matter.

speaking from a purely biological perspective, our primary objectives as human beings are to survive, and reproduce in kind, and thereby perpetuate the species. this is undeniable. anyone who does not participate in the natural process of such is "deviant" by definition. they are not acting in accordance with the needs of the species.

how you want to feel about their being described as such is up to you.

it's like you're trying to sound like an academic and hold my hand through each step of your ignorant logic. to describe with negative adjectives is to degrade. look up deviant if your unsure if it in fact holds negative connotation. homosexual relationships cannot naturally produce children. this is true. i don't know if you're aware but, people are still having babies - lots of them. the species is being perpetuated, don't worry. i will feel offended because ignorance is offensive.

Edited November 23, 2012 by val erie

[justashooter 430]

i cannot help you if you cannot separate your feelings from reality, in an objective sense.