Diffusing the Threat from within

[Bosco 1]

I am so lost jumping in here. I think JP's words have been totally misconstrued.

I think the reactions to the cartoon are overreactions. The whole reason for the seminar is THERE IS A PROBLEM!!!!!! So it is OK to talk about the problem when it is neatly packaged in a seminar but a cartoon that depicts a sad reality offends. Go figure! I myself find the actual terrorist schools WAY more offensive than a flippin cartoon.

Maybe the cartoon would have seemed profound and relevant had someone else posted it. I had to consider the poster. Probably my bad, but I don't think the intent was to start a healthy debate about a sad reality.

Who said it was meant to start a healthy debate? Like "healthy" debates occur here

It was a cartoon that played off the name of the seminar. Doesn't offend me. The problem does.

[Jenn! 918]

I am so lost jumping in here. I think JP's words have been totally misconstrued.

I think the reactions to the cartoon are overreactions. The whole reason for the seminar is THERE IS A PROBLEM!!!!!! So it is OK to talk about the problem when it is neatly packaged in a seminar but a cartoon that depicts a sad reality offends. Go figure! I myself find the actual terrorist schools WAY more offensive than a flippin cartoon.

Maybe the cartoon would have seemed profound and relevant had someone else posted it. I had to consider the poster. Probably my bad, but I don't think the intent was to start a healthy debate about a sad reality.

Ok maybe it was not the intent, but what is wrong with the debate? Like Rebecca said, the seminar is to address a real problem. The cartoon is a perfect example of that.

Nothing wrong with the debate.

I'd like to maintain my right to stay mad at mawilson, however.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Like Rebecca said, the seminar is to address a real problem.

Just curious - how many Arabs actually believe it's a real problem? Any surveys ever done for that?

[jordanianprincess 0]

Did I twist your words? You have been twisting mine all along! You don't accept anything except your own ideas and explanations. I have further explained what my comments to Mawilson meant and you simply dont want to accept that and choose to go with your own theories.

You've been twisting my words this whole time.

I'm not twisting your words when you come here and defend a racist. Racism is not excusable and it's not tolerable. Ever. It doesn't matter if it's towards arabs, whites, blacks, indians, asians, or little green martians

You just found this as your excuse to call me a wannabe. Good job.

I'm sure everyone here sees you as a victim now. What you wrote was pretty darn clear. I am not the only one who saw it or comprehended it that way.

I only implied you are a wannabe, I never said it. Isn't that the defense you are using by implying I'm a racist? If I only implied you are a wannabe and you actually called yourself one, then by your standards I have not done anything wrong!

[Ban Hammer 13,333]

I'd like to maintain my right to stay mad at mawilson, however.

such better not interfere with your right to be mad at me

if not, i demand equal time! my rights are being trampled!

and to correct vp - i'm the one that said wanna bee

Edited November 6, 2006 by charlesandnessa

[Veiled Princess 1]

I am so lost jumping in here. I think JP's words have been totally misconstrued.

I think the reactions to the cartoon are overreactions. The whole reason for the seminar is THERE IS A PROBLEM!!!!!! So it is OK to talk about the problem when it is neatly packaged in a seminar but a cartoon that depicts a sad reality offends. Go figure! I myself find the actual terrorist schools WAY more offensive than a flippin cartoon.

Personally I don't find it at all amusing that young men and women are being brainwashed to blow themselves up for some freakshows political gain. Perhaps I need to readjust my sense of humor?

[Jenn! 918]

I'd like to maintain my right to stay mad at mawilson, however.

such better not interfere with your right to be mad at me

if not, i demand equal time! my rights are being trampled!

Don't worry, Charles, I'll always make time to be mad at you.

[Ban Hammer 13,333]

I'd like to maintain my right to stay mad at mawilson, however.

such better not interfere with your right to be mad at me

if not, i demand equal time! my rights are being trampled!

Don't worry, Charles, I'll always make time to be mad at you.

[jordanianprincess 0]

Like Rebecca said, the seminar is to address a real problem.

Just curious - how many Arabs actually believe it's a real problem? Any surveys ever done for that?

You know I can't tell you if any real surveys have been done. The community that I know (a very large one) is against militant Islam and sees it no differently than Nazi Germany. There are just as many Muslims that also fear Militant Islam. The problem is when we are grouped together with these people and their beliefs. You can take the high road in life, you don't need to fight back in way that you are not going to benefit from.

This sunnipath seminar is a perfect example of the right way to fight back.

[Veiled Princess 1]

I'm sure everyone here sees you as a victim now. What you wrote was pretty darn clear. I am not the only one who saw it or comprehended it that way.

I only implied you are a wannabe, I never said it. Isn't that the defense you are using by implying I'm a racist? If I only implied you are a wannabe and you actually called yourself one, then by your standards I have not done anything wrong!

I never once implied that you're a racist JP You should know me well enough to know that if I were going to call you a racist I would just say it.

Edited November 6, 2006 by Veiled Princess

[Bosco 1]

I am so lost jumping in here. I think JP's words have been totally misconstrued.

I think the reactions to the cartoon are overreactions. The whole reason for the seminar is THERE IS A PROBLEM!!!!!! So it is OK to talk about the problem when it is neatly packaged in a seminar but a cartoon that depicts a sad reality offends. Go figure! I myself find the actual terrorist schools WAY more offensive than a flippin cartoon.

Personally I don't find it at all amusing that young men and women are being brainwashed to blow themselves up for some freakshows political gain. Perhaps I need to readjust my sense of humor?

Did you actually read what I said??????? I said the actual schools are what is offensive. But you complained more about the cartoon than the problem until I spoke up. In fact, I don't think you actually mentioned a single concern about the real problem.

Edited November 6, 2006 by Bosco

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

The community that I know (a very large one) is against militant Islam and sees it no differently than Nazi Germany.

Given the comparison with the fascist regime of Nazi Germany, I have to ask: how do you feel about the term "Islamofascist"?

[jordanianprincess 0]

I'm sure everyone here sees you as a victim now. What you wrote was pretty darn clear. I am not the only one who saw it or comprehended it that way.

I only implied you are a wannabe, I never said it. Isn't that the defense you are using by implying I'm a racist? If I only implied you are a wannabe and you actually called yourself one, then by your standards I have not done anything wrong!

I never once implied that you're a racist JP You should know me well enought to know that if I were going to call you a racist I would just say it.

Then I guess all of VJ is wrong and you are right. I don't know how many people have to tell you that they saw the same thing I did. I guess its easier for you to stay on your high horse than to admit that you actually called me a racist. Ride on, cowgirl!

[Bosco 1]

I'm sure everyone here sees you as a victim now. What you wrote was pretty darn clear. I am not the only one who saw it or comprehended it that way.

I only implied you are a wannabe, I never said it. Isn't that the defense you are using by implying I'm a racist? If I only implied you are a wannabe and you actually called yourself one, then by your standards I have not done anything wrong!

I never once implied that you're a racist JP You should know me well enough to know that if I were going to call you a racist I would just say it.

No you only asked if "her" religion teaches it is wrong and put the unsure smiley after (way to respect the People of the Book BTW)

I don't have to be Arab to know that racism is wrong.. no matter who it's directed at... my religion teaches me that.... does yours? unsure.gif

[mawilson 2,133]

I'd like to maintain my right to stay mad at mawilson, however.

Let's be friends again, Jen. I won't say anything bad about Arabs for, like, a day.

Ok, two days. Deal?