Diffusing the Threat from within

[jordanianprincess 0]

who makes excuses for racism, sis? it's implied that she (jp) is a racist too as she's "defending" such in your eyes.

Making excuses for it doesn't make her one and I never said that. It's clear from her first post here that she was excusing mawilson for his racism because of the media.

and that was my other point, which you ignored. that watching news in the west makes everyone in the west a racist. even you, if one extends that statement of yours to it's logical conclusion

But that's not what I said Charlie.... JP is excusing any racist for being racist just because they've seen the news here. In other words.... anyone who has seen the news is forgiven for being racist (if they are) just because that's the way the media presents things so it's OK for people to succumb to racism because of that.

Why is it that you can't understand the concept of tolerence? Being tolerent of people doesn't mean I am excusing them of anything.

[Veiled Princess 1]

So anyone that disagrees with what you say is attacking you? Ok, noted. You have pages and pages of posts all over VJ where you are fighting with the ENTIRE FORUM and you are telling me that I make a discussion go wrong? That's rich!

Do you only have discussions/debates with insults? In your veil you don't appear to be an American , when you take it off you go right back to your life. You have no idea what it feels like to be an Arab. You can see this as an attack if you want, but you have been insulting me now for 6 pages and that my dear is not the sign of a victim.

And you are right there in those threads

I'm not claiming to know what it's like to be an Arab and as I've already stated it's not the purpose of my veil to make me appear to be Arab.

I do not have to know what it's like to be anyone other than who I am to know that racism is wrong and inexcusable.

You think it's not insulting to me that you keep implying that I'm somehow trying to be Arab? Go on... keep crying about insults while you're flinging them.

[jordanianprincess 0]

So anyone that disagrees with what you say is attacking you? Ok, noted. You have pages and pages of posts all over VJ where you are fighting with the ENTIRE FORUM and you are telling me that I make a discussion go wrong? That's rich!

Do you only have discussions/debates with insults? In your veil you don't appear to be an American , when you take it off you go right back to your life. You have no idea what it feels like to be an Arab. You can see this as an attack if you want, but you have been insulting me now for 6 pages and that my dear is not the sign of a victim.

And you are right there in those threads

I'm not claiming to know what it's like to be an Arab and as I've already stated it's not the purpose of my veil to make me appear to be Arab.

I do not have to know what it's like to be anyone other than who I am to know that racism is wrong and inexcusable.

You think it's not insulting to me that you keep implying that I'm somehow trying to be Arab? Go on... keep crying about insults while you're flinging them.

So saying you are a non-arab is an insult?

[Veiled Princess 1]

You obviously have no idea what tolerence is. Ignorance only breads more ignorance.

Tolerate racism? Are you serious? Maybe someone should have told Malcolm X, Rosa Parks, Thurgood Marshall, Martin Luther King Jr. or one of the many other civil rights leaders of our time to have been more tolerant towards racism.

That's ####### and you know it.

So saying you are a non-arab is an insult?

No, implying that I'm trying to be Arab is insulting.

[jordanianprincess 0]

You obviously have no idea what tolerence is. Ignorance only breads more ignorance.

Tolerate racism? Are you serious? Maybe someone should have told Malcolm X, Rosa Parks, Thurgood Marshall, Martin Luther King Jr. or one of the many other civil rights leaders of our time to have been more tolerant towards racism.

That's ####### and you know it.

So you think fighting with an ignorant person is gonna get you somewhere? Do you think the people you mentioned above were not tolerant? They were tolerent towards racsim and thats how they conquered it.

So saying you are a non-arab is an insult?

No, implying that I'm trying to be Arab is insulting.

You have insulted me for 7 pages now and the worst i have said to you is that you are not an arab?

[Veiled Princess 1]

So you think fighting with an ignorant person is gonna get you somewhere? Do you think the people you mentioned above were not tolerant? They were tolerent towards racsim and thats how they conquered it.

it's funny that you think they were tolerant.

It's also funny that you just said that mawilson is ignorant

You have insulted me for 7 pages now and the worst i have said to you is that you are not an arab?

I have not insulted you other than calling you on your reading skills today.

Again... the insult is NOT that I'm not Arab but that you are implying that I'm trying to be Arab... which I'm not and have no use for. I am who I am and am perfectly happy being who I am.

[mawilson 2,133]

It's also funny that you just said that mawilson is ignorant

Well, I don't know any Arabs except you guys, and so far I'm not impressed

(not you, JP, you're great)

Edited November 6, 2006 by mawilson

[Veiled Princess 1]

It's also funny that you just said that mawilson is ignorant

Well, I don't know any Arabs except you guys, and so far I'm not impressed

(not you, JP, you're great)

I'm not Arab

I am not impressed by you at all either.... this was not your first racist remark/action on this board

ETA: why is JP so great? Who was the "ignorant person" I was arguing with?

Edited November 6, 2006 by Veiled Princess

[jordanianprincess 0]

So you think fighting with an ignorant person is gonna get you somewhere? Do you think the people you mentioned above were not tolerant? They were tolerent towards racsim and thats how they conquered it.

it's funny that you think they were tolerant.

It's also funny that you just said that mawilson is ignorant

VP I do think that some of Mawlisons views are ignorant and have spent alot of time explaining my views. It not something I hide. You are obviously just trying to start sh!t. When someone makes a remark about arabs that can be taken as racist, I think I would be one of the first to feel the effect of that. There are many racist comments made in MENA about arab women by our own MENA members (not Michael) and I have never said a word about it.

You obviously have no idea what tolerence is. Racism isn't a fight you can win overnight and its defintly not one that will ever go away. If people of other races were not tolerent about some of the racism that goes on in the world, there would be wars in every street in American. When someone makes a racist comment, you can either ignore them or fight back. Fighting back is not going to change their views but it will most likely confirm it.

I'm sorry you keep saying that I am accusing you of trying to be an Arab, so why do you call yourself Leila again and wear Arab style clothing? I call it as I see it. If you are offended that I called you a Non-Arab then you are going to have very difficult time accepting your reality.

[sarah and hicham 3]

Wow!

I think there's a lot of people on this board who wish they were Arab. JP you're so lucky! Everyone is jealous of you!

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Well, I don't know any Arabs except you guys...

You live in New York. How is that possible?

[sarah and hicham 3]

It's also funny that you just said that mawilson is ignorant

Well, I don't know any Arabs except you guys, and so far I'm not impressed

(not you, JP, you're great)

Who are the other Arabs you know on here other than JP?

Also, are you a man or a woman? Sorry I just gotta know!

[Veiled Princess 1]

VP I do think that some of Mawlisons views are ignorant and have spent alot of time explaining my views. It not something I hide. You are obviously just trying to start sh!t. When someone makes a remark about arabs that can be taken as racist, I think I would be one of the first to feel the effect of that. There are many racist comments made in MENA about arab women by our own MENA members (not Michael) and I have never said a word about it.

You obviously have no idea what tolerence is. Racism isn't a fight you can win overnight and its defintly not one that will ever go away. If people of other races were not tolerent about some of the racism that goes on in the world, there would be wars in every street in American. When someone makes a racist comment, you can either ignore them or fight back. Fighting back is not going to change their views but it will most likely confirm it.

I'm sorry you keep saying that I am accusing you of trying to be an Arab, so why do you call yourself Leila again and wear Arab style clothing? I call it as I see it. If you are offended that I called you a Non-Arab then you are going to have very difficult time accepting your reality.

So you're offended that a non-Arab is offended about racism because if you're not Arab then you're not entitled to be offended by racism? #######?

I wear Indian/paki clothes more than Arab clothes... maybe I'm trying to be Indian too? Do clothes define our races now? Basically you just called me a wannabe. Nice.

When someone posted something I considered racist in this thread I did my part and reported it without incident... it wasn't until after it was removed and someone else came along to replace it that I spoke up about it. Then along comes you to tell me how mawilson has a right to be racist because of the news media or whatever else bull and started this fight with me so you can come 7 pages later and cry that I've insulted you?

[sarah and hicham 3]

VP I do think that some of Mawlisons views are ignorant and have spent alot of time explaining my views. It not something I hide. You are obviously just trying to start sh!t. When someone makes a remark about arabs that can be taken as racist, I think I would be one of the first to feel the effect of that. There are many racist comments made in MENA about arab women by our own MENA members (not Michael) and I have never said a word about it.

You obviously have no idea what tolerence is. Racism isn't a fight you can win overnight and its defintly not one that will ever go away. If people of other races were not tolerent about some of the racism that goes on in the world, there would be wars in every street in American. When someone makes a racist comment, you can either ignore them or fight back. Fighting back is not going to change their views but it will most likely confirm it.

I'm sorry you keep saying that I am accusing you of trying to be an Arab, so why do you call yourself Leila again and wear Arab style clothing? I call it as I see it. If you are offended that I called you a Non-Arab then you are going to have very difficult time accepting your reality.

So you're offended that a non-Arab is offended about racism because if you're not Arab then you're not entitled to be offended by racism? #######?

I wear Indian/paki clothes more than Arab clothes... maybe I'm trying to be Indian too? Do clothes define our races now? Basically you just called me a wannabe. Nice.

When someone posted something I considered racist in this thread I did my part and reported it without incident... it wasn't until after it was removed and someone else came along to replace it that I spoke up about it. Then along comes you to tell me how mawilson has a right to be racist because of the news media or whatever else bull and started this fight with me so you can come 7 pages later and cry that I've insulted you?

P-O-S-E-R

[Ban Hammer 13,340]

who makes excuses for racism, sis? it's implied that she (jp) is a racist too as she's "defending" such in your eyes.

Making excuses for it doesn't make her one and I never said that. It's clear from her first post here that she was excusing mawilson for his racism because of the media.

and that was my other point, which you ignored. that watching news in the west makes everyone in the west a racist. even you, if one extends that statement of yours to it's logical conclusion

But that's not what I said Charlie.... JP is excusing any racist for being racist just because they've seen the news here. In other words.... anyone who has seen the news is forgiven for being racist (if they are) just because that's the way the media presents things so it's OK for people to succumb to racism because of that.

firstly, it's charles. got it?

next, you're really missing the boat here regarding western news sources. it is asinine for you to infer that people who watch western news sources become racist from watching such. we on the same page finally or do i need to use single syllable words?