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[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

btw who would be dumb enough to stand in front of a bulldozer? Bulldozer wins ten out of ten times. Natural selection.

idk

[himher 634]

Yup. That about sums it up.

There stands a MAN

idk

[himher 634]

People who die because they believe in something are above the laws of natural selection sport. You are standing on soil (well not you, yours was purchased) but we are standing on soil bought, paid for, and protected with blood.

Here's a flash: You don't get to import food and medical supplies when the ships get raided and the unarmed sailors get gunned down

There was an American killed doing that too. No rockets. No weapons. No guns. So now what? He got shot because 'nobody saw him' either?

Looks like the residents of Gaza import more rockets than they do food and medical supplies by the looks of it. I guess rockets are the priority for those people.

btw who would be dumb enough to stand in front of a bulldozer? Bulldozer wins ten out of ten times. Natural selection.

[Ban Hammer 13,569]

need i point out that a tank has (1) a driver and (2) a tc and (3)a gunner and sometimes (4) a loader, which is 3-4 times the amount of eyes that a bulldozer operator has?

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

need i point out that a tank has (1) a driver and (2) a tc and (3)a gunner and sometimes (4) a loader, which is 3-4 times the amount of eyes that a bulldozer operator has?

No. But thanks for playing.

[himher 634]

It's idle speculation but I would bet there aren't enough anxiety pills to warrant going out out all one's lonesome to bulldoze homes with all those bada$$ rock-throwing teenagers lurking about. Maybe this dude is blind and it's not the driver at all. Look at the one pointing his gun at the bystanders! LOL

http://www.duncanmcfarlane.org/Israel-Palestine/Gazacharade/

need i point out that a tank has (1) a driver and (2) a tc and (3)a gunner and sometimes (4) a loader, which is 3-4 times the amount of eyes that a bulldozer operator has?

Edited November 21, 2012 by himher

[Ban Hammer 13,569]

It's idle speculation but I would bet there aren't enough anxiety pills to warrant going out out all one's lonesome to bulldoze homes with all those bada$$ rock-throwing teenagers lurking about. Maybe this dude is blind and it's not the driver at all.

it's also idle speculation to assume he ran her over on purpose - which is why my earlier post detailed how many eyes the tank has, how many eyes the bulldozer has.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

People who die because they believe in something are above the laws of natural selection sport. You are standing on soil (well not you, yours was purchased) but we are standing on soil bought, paid for, and protected with blood.

Here's a flash: You don't get to import food and medical supplies when the ships get raided and the unarmed sailors get gunned down

There was an American killed doing that too. No rockets. No weapons. No guns. So now what? He got shot because 'nobody saw him' either?

So they can't get food and medical supplies in Gaza yet they have no problem getting thousands of rockets ? Maybe they just woke up one day and those thousands of rockets were piled up in buildings by little green elves.

[himher 634]

That's why I took the time to politely post photos of how it is done and how soldiers surround and guard the activities.

Nobody said anything about on purpose. It was noted that they could be blind. They could be strung out on anxiety pills. They also could have blantant disregard for human life.

The bulldozer issue was tabled anyway and replaced with the aid ship issue. Same thing happened. Common denominator. They cant ALL be blind can they? ALL of them are strung out? Slowly the possibilities are being ruled out and are being reduced to (1)......

it's also idle speculation to assume he ran her over on purpose - which is why my earlier post detailed how many eyes the tank has, how many eyes the bulldozer has.

Edited November 21, 2012 by himher

[himher 634]

Could be worse. Could be nukes.

They have a right to self-defense too dude. Step on people enough and they're going to fight back

So they can't get food and medical supplies in Gaza yet they have no problem getting thousands of rockets ? Maybe they just woke up one day and those thousands of rockets were piled up in buildings by little green elves.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Could be worse. Could be nukes.

They have a right to self-defense too dude. Step on people enough and they're going to fight back

Self defense is one thing, lobbing rockets randomly is another. I can't say I'm going to feel all that bad about Gaza when it gets emptied of it's current inhabitants by the IDF. You make your bed, now you lie in it.

[himher 634]

Not there. You make your bed there and it gets bulldozed and taken at gunpoint. Excellent photos huh?

Here's my call. A defense force that doesnt have the scuds to move unarmed protesters sure as hell doesnt have the scuds to clear Gaza.

Guess we will see how it plays out........however kindly don't insult intelligence by claiming that (1) someone can take something from someone else then (2) the people taken from fight back and then (3) the takers defend what they took and somehow defending that taken property falls under the definition of "self defense". It's pretty dam funny logic to convolute thievery into something as noble as "self defense"

Self defense is one thing, lobbing rockets randomly is another. I can't say I'm going to feel all that bad about Gaza when it gets emptied of it's current inhabitants by the IDF. You make your bed, now you lie in it.

Edited November 21, 2012 by himher

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Not there. You make your bed there and it gets bulldozed and taken at gunpoint. Excellent photos huh?

Here's my call. A defense force that doesnt have the scuds to move unarmed protesters sure as hell doesnt have the scuds to clear Gaza.

Guess we will see how it plays out........however kindly don't insult intelligence by claiming that (1) someone can take something from someone else then (2) the people taken from fight back and then (3) the takers defend what they took and somehow defending that taken property falls under the definition of "self defense". It's pretty dam funny logic to convolute thievery into something as noble as "self defense"

Right or wrong, the Arabs attacked Israel on more than one occasion and now we see the effects of the cost of war. You gamble and lose then be prepared to face the consequences.

[OriZ 3,157]

Calling someone sarcastically "as smart as king Solomon" and then saying they retreated to the intelligence thing sure sounds very smart to me.

Lets make one thing clear, Gaza gets everything they need, whether through Israel, or through the thousand tunnels they have going into Egypt.

As for the flotilla, Israel said many times that any actual humanitarian aid on the ship will be delivered by it to the people in Gaza which is was. In no other case(and there were many ships) did anyone die but in the case of this one(I guess you missed the video of them beating and stabbing the soldiers huh? Talk about blind) they once again had to defend themselves. In any other case when they were not attacked no one got hurt.

[himher 634]

Wasn't being sarcastic. It was smart of you then to let that one slide and it's smart now. Here is my problem with your logic king solomon. Try to keep up.

If you (not you in general but anyone) enters my home in the dead of night with a weapon in your hand I'm going to pop you. That would be self defense. It is self defense because I am where I am supposed to be and you are not. Israeli logic is this: They believe they can go places where they are not supposed to be holding weapons and when the people who are there defend themselves (in the case of the aid ship with knives and iron bars against soldiers with guns) the Israelis gun them down then claim self-defense. Israeli logic is based on a fundemental sense of underlying elitism and we will by god and by golly get to that in a minute.

If you are defending your home and property that is self defense. If you are armed and taking something that's just being a thief. The whole "thou shalt not steal thing" aside you are not making a good sell on your message that you should be able to conduct yourselves like petty thieves then cry "self-defense" when your armed robberies get commented on.

That "actual aid" story is so far outside the boundaries of logic it approaches stupid. A vessel that was actually full of actual humanitarien aid did not actually deliver it. The sailors were actually gunned down. So your story is not exactly honest. But you don't have to be honest with us do you? We will by god and by golly get to that too.

Took some time to read up on the israelis awhile back. I was investigating why my grandmother would choose to be a Methodist when she was born a good Jewish girl. What I found stunned me but it also helped me understand why some groups cannot and will not never, ever, ever get along with their neighbors.

Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God - Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be killed.

Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile ("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work.

Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite...the payment is to be in full."

Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a gentile ("heathen") it does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b). Sanhedrin 76a. God will not spare a Jew who "marries his daughter to an old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article to a Cuthean..."

Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.

Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has "exposed their money to Israel."

Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals. Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth.

Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.

Sanhedrin 106a . "She who was the descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with carpenters."

tsk tsk refers to Jesus' mother yes? that's not gonna make you any friends with those conservative mackeral-smacking / wine drinking catholics LOL. Guess y'all don't really talk about this stuff at parties either do ya?

They're no better than their neighbors over there sport. That's just a few quick references but I don't believe I've ever read anything that has as much elitism or hatred than what I have read in those writings.

Summary: We're not all stupid and grandmother aside I don't think I would drop my wallet over there in Isreal either

Calling someone sarcastically "as smart as king Solomon" and then saying they retreated to the intelligence thing sure sounds very smart to me.

Lets make one thing clear, Gaza gets everything they need, whether through Israel, or through the thousand tunnels they have going into Egypt.

As for the flotilla, Israel said many times that any actual humanitarian aid on the ship will be delivered by it to the people in Gaza which is was. In no other case(and there were many ships) did anyone die but in the case of this one(I guess you missed the video of them beating and stabbing the soldiers huh? Talk about blind) they once again had to defend themselves. In any other case when they were not attacked no one got hurt.