Paul Ryan: Obama Win Given By Urban Areas

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Former GOP vice-presidential nominee and Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) is blaming President Barack Obama's win on his turnout in cities. In one of a series of first interviews following the loss by Ryan and Mitt Romney, Ryan told the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, "Well, he got turnout. The president should get credit for achieving record-breaking turnout numbers from urban areas for the most part, and that did win the election for him." Ryan repeated the line to local station WISC-TV.

But Politico's James Hohmann notes that the Romney-Ryan ticket also lost predominately white and rural states like Iowa and New Hampshire, and underperformed in Midwestern states.

Ryan's fixation on urban areas is not something that merely happened post-election -- during the campaign, he wanted to go to inner cities and promote Republican ideas to lift people out of poverty. He did give a campaign speech in Cleveland on poverty, but his message has a contradiction -- he has penned budget proposals in Congress that would slash the social safety net, worsening poverty.

Republican U.S. Rep. Paul Ryan said he and the Mitt Romney campaign were surprised at election results on Tuesday night, having felt previously confident at a win in a bid for the White House.

"I think the surprise was some of the turnout, especially in urban areas, which gave President Obama the big margin to win this race," said Ryan, who sat down with WISC-TV reporter Jessica Arp on Monday for the first time following the election.

"There's always an Electoral College strategy to winning these things, and you know what states you need to win to get to 270 electoral votes. When we watched Virginia and Ohio coming in, those as tight as they were, and looking like we were going to lose them, that's when it became clear we weren't going to win."

Ryan said he was disappointed in not being able to carry Wisconsin, but called the state an "uphill fight."

"Mitt didn't pick me for a certain state, he picked me for issues, for governing, for taking on the debt crisis," Ryan said. "We had hoped to win Wisconsin, fought hard for Wisconsin. We cut the president's lead in half, but nevertheless it wasn't enough."

Ryan is now looking forward to his work on the House Budget Committee and negotiations on the fiscal cliff.

"I respect the fact that the process is done and the president won the race and I congratulate him on the race," Ryan said. "We now have divided government like we did before, but the divided government we had the last two years didn't work. We're going to have to make this divided government work."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/13/paul-ryan-obama-win_n_2121348.html

[sly_wolf 199]

Former GOP vice-presidential nominee and Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) is blaming President Barack Obama's win on his turnout in cities. In one of a series of first interviews following the loss by Ryan and Mitt Romney, Ryan told the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, "Well, he got turnout. The president should get credit for achieving record-breaking turnout numbers from urban areas for the most part, and that did win the election for him." Ryan repeated the line to local station WISC-TV.

But Politico's James Hohmann notes that the Romney-Ryan ticket also lost predominately white and rural states like Iowa and New Hampshire, and underperformed in Midwestern states.

Ryan's fixation on urban areas is not something that merely happened post-election -- during the campaign, he wanted to go to inner cities and promote Republican ideas to lift people out of poverty. He did give a campaign speech in Cleveland on poverty, but his message has a contradiction -- he has penned budget proposals in Congress that would slash the social safety net, worsening poverty.

Republican U.S. Rep. Paul Ryan said he and the Mitt Romney campaign were surprised at election results on Tuesday night, having felt previously confident at a win in a bid for the White House.

"I think the surprise was some of the turnout, especially in urban areas, which gave President Obama the big margin to win this race," said Ryan, who sat down with WISC-TV reporter Jessica Arp on Monday for the first time following the election.

"There's always an Electoral College strategy to winning these things, and you know what states you need to win to get to 270 electoral votes. When we watched Virginia and Ohio coming in, those as tight as they were, and looking like we were going to lose them, that's when it became clear we weren't going to win."

Ryan said he was disappointed in not being able to carry Wisconsin, but called the state an "uphill fight."

"Mitt didn't pick me for a certain state, he picked me for issues, for governing, for taking on the debt crisis," Ryan said. "We had hoped to win Wisconsin, fought hard for Wisconsin. We cut the president's lead in half, but nevertheless it wasn't enough."

Ryan is now looking forward to his work on the House Budget Committee and negotiations on the fiscal cliff.

"I respect the fact that the process is done and the president won the race and I congratulate him on the race," Ryan said. "We now have divided government like we did before, but the divided government we had the last two years didn't work. We're going to have to make this divided government work."

http://www.huffingto..._n_2121348.html

I think the GOP need to start being honest with themselves before they can think about being honest with the people.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

It's funny. Here you have Ryan talking about Obama's record turnout. At the same time, the right is pointing out that Obama has actually received 7 million fewer votes in 2012 than he did in 2008. Seeing that Obama did indeed receive fewer votes this year than he did 4 eyars ago, how can he have had record turnout at the same time? The fact of the matter is that turnout was lower all around.

Edited November 14, 2012 by Mr. Big Dog

[Penny Lane 8,159]

It's funny. Here you have Ryan talking about Obama's record turnout. At the same time, the right is pointing out that Obama has actually received 7 million fewer votes in 2012 than he did in 2008. Seeing that Obama did indeed receive fewer votes this year than he did 4 eyars ago, how can he have had record turnout at the same time? The fact of the matter is that turnout was lower all around.

Unfortunately a lot of people are ignoring anything that doesn't fit into their "lazy minorities want free stuff so Obama won" viewpoint.

[justashooter 430]

Unfortunately a lot of people are ignoring anything that doesn't fit into their "lazy minorities want free stuff so Obama won" viewpoint.

what else explains the 109% turnout in impoverished ohio districts, and the 100% obama returns in impoverished AA philly wards? next thign you know we're gonna be hearing about the naturalised canadian liberal inter-web hound vote...

[Penny Lane 8,159]

what else explains the 109% turnout in impoverished ohio districts, and the 100% obama returns in impoverished AA philly wards? next thign you know we're gonna be hearing about the naturalised canadian liberal inter-web hound vote...

Nothing. Poor people want free stuff so Obama won. And nothing anyone says will tell you otherwise. So you're absolutely correct.

[Danno 1,228]

Unfortunately a lot of people are ignoring anything that doesn't fit into their "lazy minorities want free stuff so Obama won" viewpoint.

Now see there you go, right to the racist fall back, you truly have a black spot in your soul. Tsk Tsk Tsk.

Here is the question-

Which areas had greater turnout, seems to me from looking at the numbers, urban areas had a higher turnout while more rural areas ... even though many crossed over to Romney this time, the turn out wasn't enough.

It's about math.

BUt continue on fulfilling my predictions about where this country is heading on a social level.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Now see there you go, right to the racist fall back, you truly have a black spot in your soul. Tsk Tsk Tsk.

Here is the question-

Which areas had greater turnout, seems to me from looking at the numbers, urban areas had a higher turnout while more rural areas ... even though many crossed over to Romney this time, the turn out wasn't enough.

It's about math.

BUt continue on fulfilling my predictions about where this country is heading on a social level.

I didn't say anything about race. Unless you mean the "minorities" comment. They're the ones who voted in huge numbers for Obama, are they not? Aren't they why he won? That's what VJ is telling me with the constant DREAM act posts and complaining. Have I been mislead?

[Danno 1,228]

I didn't say anything about race. Unless you mean the "minorities" comment. They're the ones who voted in huge numbers for Obama, are they not? Aren't they why he won? That's what VJ is telling me with the constant DREAM act posts and complaining. Have I been mislead?

It would be a mistake to connect posts on a message board to the post election summation by a candidate.

Ryann was simply analyzing turnout, you dove right to some racial angle.... I think this impulse by too many is having a deleterious effect on this country and the harmony we all seek.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

what else explains the 109% turnout in impoverished ohio districts,

Nothing explains that because it did not happen. Just as Romney didn't win Penna as you so surely claimed he would. Face it, you have a troubled relationship with reality.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

It would be a mistake to connect posts on a message board to the post election summation by a candidate.

Ryann was simply analyzing turnout, you dove right to some racial angle.... I think this impulse by too many is having a deleterious effect on this country and the harmony we all seek.

My response was not to Ryan's article or opinion. I posted it, and responded to a comment. Ryan mentioned record turn out, and Mr. Big Dog commented on the fact that here on VJ, all we hear about is how people didn't show up for Obama, though Ryan clearly disagrees. And I said that if someone doesn't come out and say "lazy minorities voted for Obama because they want free stuff" (which is EXACTLY what's been said here for the last week), then people don't want to hear it.

I made no comments about Ryan's viewpoint at all. None. Please try to follow along.

Hilarious that you think my attitude is what's having a negative effect on this country and the harmony we all seek. You sure it isn't the people who seem to think they have the right to determine who's a "real American" and who isn't based on their political party? You sure it isn't the thousands of people who are signing silly online petitions because they are upset about an election result? You sure it isn't the people who are going on and on about how minorities only voted for Obama because they'll get handouts from them?

Yeah, you're right, it's probably MY attitude.

Edited November 14, 2012 by Evylin

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Here is the question-

Which areas had greater turnout, seems to me from looking at the numbers, urban areas had a higher turnout while more rural areas ... even though many crossed over to Romney this time, the turn out wasn't enough.

It's about math.

It's about turning out voters. One ticket managed to do it, the other ticket failed. Obama/Biden turned out the urban vote, the minority vote, the youth vote, the women vote while Romney/Ryan couldn't get enough old white geezers to the polls to pull ahead. **, they had less support than McCain and the Ditz did in 2008.

[Danno 1,228]

......... You sure it isn't the people who seem to think they have the right to determine who's a "real American" and who isn't based on their political party? You sure it isn't the thousands of people who are signing silly online petitions because they are upset about an election result? You sure it isn't the people who are going on and on about how minorities only voted for Obama because they'll get handouts from them?

Look lets just come to an understanding: I will make the determination about who is... and who isn't a "real American" and it is not solely based on political party. (though there are trends)

You should also know I am tabulating your score to see if you make the "list" or not..... and I have to tell you Evylin, it's not looking good.

It's about turning out voters. One ticket managed to do it, the other ticket failed. Obama/Biden turned out the urban vote, the minority vote, the youth vote, the women vote while Romney/Ryan couldn't get enough old white geezers to the polls to pull ahead. **, they had less support than McCain and the Ditz did in 2008.

So Ryann's assessment was right?

[justashooter 430]

Nothing explains that because it did not happen. Just as Romney didn't win Penna as you so surely claimed he would. Face it, you have a troubled relationship with reality.

google it, my friend. it's in the ohio newspapers.

hell let me do it for you:

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2012/09/16/voter-rolls-in-ohio-are-bloated-experts-say.html

More than one out of every five registered Ohio voters is probably ineligible to vote.

In two counties, the number of registered voters actually exceeds the voting-age population: Northwestern Ohio’s Wood County shows 109 registered voters for every 100 eligible, while in Lawrence County along the Ohio River it’s a mere 104 registered per 100 eligible.

Another 31 counties show registrations at more than 90 percent of those eligible, a rate regarded as unrealistic by most voting experts. The national average is a little more than 70 percent.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Look lets just come to an understanding: I will make the determination about who is... and who isn't a "real American" and it is not solely based on political party. (though there are trends)

You should also know I am tabulating your score to see if you make the "list" or not..... and I have to tell you Evylin, it's not looking good.

Of course I don't. I have no intentions of citizenship. I'm ok with that.