Americans didn't intend to elect a Republican majority to the House. Thanks to GOP-engineered redistricting, they did:

[Danno 1,228]

This is done to minimize the balck vote in congress. By setting out those "safe" districts for black representation they limit black influence to the few districts they are given, the other districts can ignore them, their votes have no effect. Most racist thing I ever saw.

Actually I think you are wrong. SInce Blacks cluster in various areas they consolidate those areas into one district to insure there are Blacks voted in.

I'm not saying I am against it, me being the realist understand this is not and never will be a color-blind society.

People want to see "folks like them" in gov't to give them a voice.

Sounds reasonable.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

People want to see "folks like them" in gov't to give them a voice.

Sounds reasonable.

And that is why minorities and women and young people don't vote Republican. Because they're reasonable and all they see in the Republican delegations are OLD WHITE MEN. They don't see anyone "like them" - as you would put it.

Danno, are you finally getting it?

Edited November 15, 2012 by Mr. Big Dog

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

This is done to minimize the balck vote in congress. By setting out those "safe" districts for black representation they limit black influence to the few districts they are given, the other districts can ignore them, their votes have no effect. Most racist thing I ever saw.

Ihave said the same things for years. Tried to explain it to a couple of Black friends. They just don't get it. It is very obvious It's like school vouchers. They are so against even though it would allow many to send their kids to better schools. Dmes do a real good job of keeping the base on the reservation.

And that is why minorities and women and young people don't vote Republican. Because they're reasonable and all they see in the Republican delegations are OLD WHITE MEN. They don't see anyone "like them" - as you would put it.

Danno, are you finally getting it?

So minorities don't vote for someone because they don't look like them, but conservatives are racist.. Priceless logic.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

So minorities don't vote for someone because they don't look like them, but conservatives are racist.. Priceless logic.

Danno, you said so yourself - people want to be represented by someone they can identify with. You said that's a reasonable expectation. Women would like some female representation, minorities appreciate minority representation. The GOP ain't offering it. For a second I thought you saw the light but I was mistaken. You remain in the dark. I tried to help - that's all I can do.

People want to see "folks like them" in gov't to give them a voice.

Sounds reasonable.

Edited November 15, 2012 by Mr. Big Dog

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Actually I think you are wrong. SInce Blacks cluster in various areas they consolidate those areas into one district to insure there are Blacks voted in.

I'm not saying I am against it, me being the realist understand this is not and never will be a color-blind society.

People want to see "folks like them" in gov't to give them a voice.

Sounds reasonable.

If you have 10 districts and you make two of them 70% black and reduce the other 8 to 15% black, the remaining 8 districts no longer have get the black vote to win. so you get a Majority conservative Republican delegation. Happened in GA.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

If you have 10 districts and you make two of them 70% black and reduce the other 8 to 15% black, the remaining 8 districts no longer have get the black vote to win. so you get a Majority conservative Republican delegation. Happened in GA.

Happens all over the country and both parties are playing that dirty game.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Happens all over the country and both parties are playing that dirty game.

Yes and the Minorities fall for it like sheep to the slaughter.

[Darnell 8,478]

I absolutely love Partisan re-districting.

It Rocks !

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

As always short on facts there, Gary. The only Congressional delegation that is lacking minorities and women is the GOP delegation.

I am talking about districts, not delegations. Democrats are more racist than Republicans, the safe black districts are always drawn by Democrats. This keeps white congressman from having to worry about "black issues" as he has few blacks in his district, They have all been coralled into a black district where they elected a a black representative.

Blacks vote for Democrats almost exclusively. So much so that many black precincts recorded not a single vote for Romney. OK that's fine. But given that almost half the 435 congressman are democrats then there ought to be a WHOLE lot more black congressman and Senators. If we take the black Democrat voting population and divide them into half the congress (218) There should be about 100 black Representatives and almost all of them would be Democrats. Where are they?

The Democrats have done a rope-a-dope on them. "Here, see how we help you, we will give you these safe districts to guarantee black faces in congress" Great. It guarantees an impotent representation of blacks and their issues can be largely ignored by everyone else. It is calculated racism, political "indian reservations"

Edited November 15, 2012 by Gary and Alla

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Actually I think you are wrong. SInce Blacks cluster in various areas they consolidate those areas into one district to insure there are Blacks voted in.

I'm not saying I am against it, me being the realist understand this is not and never will be a color-blind society.

People want to see "folks like them" in gov't to give them a voice.

Sounds reasonable.

That's what I just said Danno. Blacks cluster in an area and they draw a circle around it, call it a district and VOILA! they elect a black representative. The white representatives have few blacks in their districts and can ignore black issues. The black population is heavily concentrated in "pockets" and those areas get one of the few black representatives. Someone with a broader based constituency has to consider the issues of EVERYONE in his district regardless of race.

Creating black districts actually reduces the political influence of blacks.

Consider, for example, the influence of Jews which are a MUCH smaller percentage of the population, but are not isolated and are represented in every district in the USA. The US' Isreal policy is dictacted by this small percentage of people scattered through the districts. And somehow they manage to get more Jewish representative elected than black representatives with NO "special Jewish districts." Heck, one of Vermont's Senators is Jewish and we have very few Jews here. 1/3 of our delagation is Jewish, 0% is black. There are probably more blacks than Jews and our Representative has to consider (and does) the issues facing blacks in Vermont.

Consider the influence of groups such as the NRA or AARP. Their members are everywhere and can throw an election in any district one way or another. There are more NRA members in congress than blacks and NRA membership is 5 million, there are that many blacks in the New York City area alone! Consider the influence of Hispanics who have few safe districts, and fewer Hispanic faces than blacks and yet have more influence because they influence MORE representatives.

At large districts or equal size districts would increase the political influence of blacks though it could reduce the number of black faces...don't know about that, maybe not.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Yes and the Minorities fall for it like sheep to the slaughter.

They do! Incredible. The KKK has done so well in wising up and concealing racism as "doing good things".

They destroyed what was a very strong family value system among black families which was a remnant of slavery, probably the best one, and have created a situation where 70% of black children are born into single parent households. Try to imagine the dynamics we see today in the 1930's or 1940's. Their fathers would have kicked their @ss! And their mothers would have dragged them by their ear to get their @ss kicked! They have effectively controlled the location of the vast majority of blacks. Health problems are highest among blacks on medicaid, obesity, diabetes and heart disease are just pervasive. Poor diet (love those food stamps) poor education, multi-generational welfare, throw in some man-made crack cocaine and meth labs (this works better than the alcohol they gave the Indians)and VOILA! A population of people as easily controlled as slaves.

And they will vote for it over and over and call anyone that opposes this travesty a "racist"

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

If you have 10 districts and you make two of them 70% black and reduce the other 8 to 15% black, the remaining 8 districts no longer have get the black vote to win. so you get a Majority conservative Republican delegation. Happened in GA.

EXACTLY! Thanks for running the numbers for the mathmatically challenged. And even though you may have a 50% black population, you effectively reduce their influence to 20%. VOILA! The two blacks are Democrats, guaranteed. The Democrats will claim to be representing blacks better than Republicans. Blacks will believe them!!!!! :wacko:

If you had at large districts, they may ALL be Republican and they mave have -0- black faces but they would ALL have 40% black constituents and there is NO WAY they could ignore that. You would have 10 representatives who have to address black issues instead of 2.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I am talking about districts, not delegations.

Well, I suppose that might have to do with the fact that you don't like debating what matters. Be that as it may, don't you have some government teat to suck on? Have you found the libertarian nipple yet?

[Love's JAA 100]

I am talking about districts, not delegations. Democrats are more racist than Republicans, the safe black districts are always drawn by Democrats. This keeps white congressman from having to worry about "black issues" as he has few blacks in his district, They have all been coralled into a black district where they elected a a black representative.

Blacks vote for Democrats almost exclusively. So much so that many black precincts recorded not a single vote for Romney. OK that's fine. But given that almost half the 435 congressman are democrats then there ought to be a WHOLE lot more black congressman and Senators. If we take the black Democrat voting population and divide them into half the congress (218) There should be about 100 black Representatives and almost all of them would be Democrats. Where are they?

The Democrats have done a rope-a-dope on them. "Here, see how we help you, we will give you these safe districts to guarantee black faces in congress" Great. It guarantees an impotent representation of blacks and their issues can be largely ignored by everyone else. It is calculated racism, political "indian reservations"

Blacks are about 14% of the US population. How do you calculate that they should control 23% of the seats in congress?

That's what I just said Danno. Blacks cluster in an area and they draw a circle around it, call it a district and VOILA! they elect a black representative. The white representatives have few blacks in their districts and can ignore black issues. The black population is heavily concentrated in "pockets" and those areas get one of the few black representatives. Someone with a broader based constituency has to consider the issues of EVERYONE in his district regardless of race.

Creating black districts actually reduces the political influence of blacks.

Consider, for example, the influence of Jews which are a MUCH smaller percentage of the population, but are not isolated and are represented in every district in the USA. The US' Isreal policy is dictacted by this small percentage of people scattered through the districts. And somehow they manage to get more Jewish representative elected than black representatives with NO "special Jewish districts." Heck, one of Vermont's Senators is Jewish and we have very few Jews here. 1/3 of our delagation is Jewish, 0% is black. There are probably more blacks than Jews and our Representative has to consider (and does) the issues facing blacks in Vermont.

Consider the influence of groups such as the NRA or AARP. Their members are everywhere and can throw an election in any district one way or another. There are more NRA members in congress than blacks and NRA membership is 5 million, there are that many blacks in the New York City area alone! Consider the influence of Hispanics who have few safe districts, and fewer Hispanic faces than blacks and yet have more influence because they influence MORE representatives.

At large districts or equal size districts would increase the political influence of blacks though it could reduce the number of black faces...don't know about that, maybe not.

The hispanic population is greater than the black population approximately 16% to 14%.

[웃 910]

Blacks are 13.1% of the population.

In the 112th Congress there were 44 blacks in the House out of 435 = 10.1% of the House (57 members would equal 13.1%).

There is only 1 member of the House that is a black Republican (was 2 but Allen West lost reelection).

"African American Members

There are 44 African American Members (8.1% of the total membership, and a record number) in

the 112th Congress; all 44 serve in the House, including two Delegates. This number includes two

Members of the House who are of African American and Asian ancestry; these Members are

counted in both ethnic categories in this report. Forty-two are Democrats, including two

Delegates, and two are Republicans. Fifteen African American women, including two Delegates,

serve in the House."