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As I told all of you I knew that at his level of vetting Petraeus's affair was known the day he took the job. There is no way you are having an affiar and get instaled as head of the CIA and no one knew. Impossible. I bet my life Obama knew. More than likely Fienstien did.

So ask yourself. Why did they sit on it until know. This thing is starting to stink big.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/12/holder-notified-petraeus-probe-in-late-summer/

Attorney General Eric Holder was notified in late summer that then-CIA Director David Petraeus' name had surfaced in the FBI probe that ultimately uncovered Petraeus' affair, raising questions about whether Holder would have -- or should have -- informed President Obama.

According to the administration's version of events, the president did not find out about the situation until last Thursday. At the time that Holder was notified, months earlier, many details were still unknown. Petraeus himself was not interviewed until the fall. And according to one source, it is long-standing FBI policy for the FBI not to brief Congress or the White House in the middle of a criminal probe that does not involve a security threat.

However, several lawmakers and other officials say the mere fact that Petraeus was flagged in an investigation should have been reason enough to kick the issue up from the Justice Department to the White House.

"He was the director of the CIA, not Fish & Wildlife. The implications are massive," Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, told FoxNews.com in an email. Chaffetz said the heads of the House and Senate intelligence committees should have been looped in. "Notification should have also gone to the president -- immediately," Chaffetz said.

Top congressional lawmakers, including the leaders of key committees, have raised concerns that they weren't notified earlier.

But John Bolton, former U.S. ambassador to the U.N. under the George W. Bush administration, said the bigger question surrounds whether the White House was notified.

"The idea that the White House didn't learn of this potential problem until Election Day, I just find incomprehensible. Did the attorney general sit on this information for two months?" he asked. Bolton said it raises the question "of whether the information was suppressed."

The Justice Department declined to comment for this story.

The law states that intelligence officials "shall" notify the congressional intelligence committees of "all intelligence activities." It could be argued that this didn't rise to such a level, technically. After all, Fox News confirms that when mistress Paula Broadwell's second and final interview with the FBI was conducted the Friday before the election, they were able to formally conclude no crimes had been committed. While some classified documents were found on her computer, there was no information indicating Petraeus was the source.

Further, according to the Wall Street Journal, a 2007 memo from then-Attorney General Michael Mukasey said Justice employees were not supposed to tell the White House or Congress about pending criminal investigations.

But Tom Dupree, former deputy assistant attorney general under George W. Bush, suggested the unique nature of this situation should have been a flag to notify at least Congress -- and perhaps the White House.

"The attorney general -- really it's his obligation to notify the relative congressional committees," Dupree told Fox News. "And in some cases, the attorney general might want to notify the White House or loop in the White House so the White House is not caught off guard by this disclosure. But at the end of the day, something almost certainly would get elevated to the attorney general."

Meanwhile, details continue to emerge about the chain of events that triggered the probe that ultimately uncovered Petraeus' affair. Fox News has learned it started with harassing emails sent from dummy accounts operated by Petraeus' mistress.

The new details help clarify the somewhat confusing narrative regarding how the head of the CIA ended up in the FBI's crosshairs in the first place. Fox News confirmed Sunday that it all started when another woman, 37-year-old Jill Kelley, a close friend of the Petraeus family, received harassing emails. She then alerted the FBI, where a friend of Kelley's works, about the emails that appeared to be an attempt to blackmail Petraeus, which started the investigation, sources said.

There were initially questions over where those emails came from, with early indications that they might not have come from Broadwell.

However, Fox News confirmed from multiple law enforcement sources that those emails came from multiple dummy accounts, which were traced back to Broadwell. The reason the FBI had jurisdiction is because cyber-harassment is a federal crime. And once the FBI got to Broadwell, they uncovered the affair.

From there, Fox News has learned, the first knowledge of the affair outside the FBI came from an agency whistle-blower who contacted a Capitol Hill Republican, who then told House Majority Leader Eric Cantor.

According to a senior administration official, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper first informed the White House about the situation last Wednesday. From there, Petraeus on Thursday morning called National Security Adviser Tom Donilon to request a meeting with Obama, who was briefed on the situation by staff later that day before taking the meeting in the afternoon.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/12/holder-notified-petraeus-probe-in-late-summer/#ixzz2C3pPWNMy

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As I told all of you I knew that at his level of vetting Petraeus's affair was known the day he took the job. There is no way you are having an affiar and get instaled as head of the CIA and no one knew. Impossible. I bet my life Obama knew. More than likely Fienstien did.

So ask yourself. Why did they sit on it until know. This thing is starting to stink big.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/12/holder-notified-petraeus-probe-in-late-summer/

Attorney General Eric Holder was notified in late summer that then-CIA Director David Petraeus' name had surfaced in the FBI probe that ultimately uncovered Petraeus' affair, raising questions about whether Holder would have -- or should have -- informed President Obama.

According to the administration's version of events, the president did not find out about the situation until last Thursday. At the time that Holder was notified, months earlier, many details were still unknown. Petraeus himself was not interviewed until the fall. And according to one source, it is long-standing FBI policy for the FBI not to brief Congress or the White House in the middle of a criminal probe that does not involve a security threat.

However, several lawmakers and other officials say the mere fact that Petraeus was flagged in an investigation should have been reason enough to kick the issue up from the Justice Department to the White House.

"He was the director of the CIA, not Fish & Wildlife. The implications are massive," Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, told FoxNews.com in an email. Chaffetz said the heads of the House and Senate intelligence committees should have been looped in. "Notification should have also gone to the president -- immediately," Chaffetz said.

Top congressional lawmakers, including the leaders of key committees, have raised concerns that they weren't notified earlier.

But John Bolton, former U.S. ambassador to the U.N. under the George W. Bush administration, said the bigger question surrounds whether the White House was notified.

"The idea that the White House didn't learn of this potential problem until Election Day, I just find incomprehensible. Did the attorney general sit on this information for two months?" he asked. Bolton said it raises the question "of whether the information was suppressed."

The Justice Department declined to comment for this story.

The law states that intelligence officials "shall" notify the congressional intelligence committees of "all intelligence activities." It could be argued that this didn't rise to such a level, technically. After all, Fox News confirms that when mistress Paula Broadwell's second and final interview with the FBI was conducted the Friday before the election, they were able to formally conclude no crimes had been committed. While some classified documents were found on her computer, there was no information indicating Petraeus was the source.

Further, according to the Wall Street Journal, a 2007 memo from then-Attorney General Michael Mukasey said Justice employees were not supposed to tell the White House or Congress about pending criminal investigations.

But Tom Dupree, former deputy assistant attorney general under George W. Bush, suggested the unique nature of this situation should have been a flag to notify at least Congress -- and perhaps the White House.

"The attorney general -- really it's his obligation to notify the relative congressional committees," Dupree told Fox News. "And in some cases, the attorney general might want to notify the White House or loop in the White House so the White House is not caught off guard by this disclosure. But at the end of the day, something almost certainly would get elevated to the attorney general."

Meanwhile, details continue to emerge about the chain of events that triggered the probe that ultimately uncovered Petraeus' affair. Fox News has learned it started with harassing emails sent from dummy accounts operated by Petraeus' mistress.

The new details help clarify the somewhat confusing narrative regarding how the head of the CIA ended up in the FBI's crosshairs in the first place. Fox News confirmed Sunday that it all started when another woman, 37-year-old Jill Kelley, a close friend of the Petraeus family, received harassing emails. She then alerted the FBI, where a friend of Kelley's works, about the emails that appeared to be an attempt to blackmail Petraeus, which started the investigation, sources said.

There were initially questions over where those emails came from, with early indications that they might not have come from Broadwell.

However, Fox News confirmed from multiple law enforcement sources that those emails came from multiple dummy accounts, which were traced back to Broadwell. The reason the FBI had jurisdiction is because cyber-harassment is a federal crime. And once the FBI got to Broadwell, they uncovered the affair.

From there, Fox News has learned, the first knowledge of the affair outside the FBI came from an agency whistle-blower who contacted a Capitol Hill Republican, who then told House Majority Leader Eric Cantor.

According to a senior administration official, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper first informed the White House about the situation last Wednesday. From there, Petraeus on Thursday morning called National Security Adviser Tom Donilon to request a meeting with Obama, who was briefed on the situation by staff later that day before taking the meeting in the afternoon.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/12/holder-notified-petraeus-probe-in-late-summer/#ixzz2C3pPWNMy

Correct me if I'm wrong but the focus of the probe had nothing to do with the affair correct? It was discovered as a circumstance of the probe?

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Correct me if I'm wrong but the focus of the probe had nothing to do with the affair correct? It was discovered as a circumstance of the probe?

Anytime someone is vetted for a high level job at the CIA I can assure you things like long standing ex martial affairs are discovered. The man held on of the highest security clearances in the nation if not the highest. As I said in the beginning there is zero chance this was not known by Obama.

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Fox News: Mitt Romney will win in a landslide.

Sorry, can't take them seriously.

OK that is BS and you know it. All of the networks had pundits that predicted. Some for Obama some for Romney. Several fox News articles predicted Obama win and thier polls were the same as CNN's.

Now that you have tried to derail the topic, which is what you libs do when you're hiding from the truth. You can carry on.

OK Ny times now reporting t hat liberal enough for you. ???

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/12/us/us-officials-say-petraeuss-affair-known-in-summer.html?pagewanted=all

Obama knew about the affair a long time ago. That is a fact.

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It would benefit you to read what you link to. You'd post fewer embarrassing contradictions that way.

But law enforcement officials did not notify anyone outside the F.B.I. or the Justice Department until last week because the investigation was incomplete and initial concerns about possible security breaches, which would demand more immediate action, did not appear to be justified, the officials said.

By the way, there was not a single news network that predicted a Romney landslide. Not one. Only Fox News - which, of course, isn't a news network but the Republican Party propaganda organ - did.

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It would benefit you to read what you link to. You'd post fewer embarrassing contradictions that way.

By the way, there was not a single news network that predicted a Romney landslide. Not one. Only Fox News - which, of course, isn't a news network but the Republican Party propaganda organ - did.

I read it I just don't believe. The head of the CIA is having an affair. I promise it is known the day he takes over. Obama knew.

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The affair didn't begin until after Petraeus was confirmed as the head of the CIA.

The affair has been going on a long time. Sorry try again.

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As I told all of you I knew that at his level of vetting Petraeus's affair was known the day he took the job. There is no way you are having an affiar and get instaled as head of the CIA and no one knew. Impossible. I bet my life Obama knew. More than likely Fienstien did.

So ask yourself. Why did they sit on it until know. This thing is starting to stink big.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/12/holder-notified-petraeus-probe-in-late-summer/

Attorney General Eric Holder was notified in late summer that then-CIA Director David Petraeus' name had surfaced in the FBI probe that ultimately uncovered Petraeus' affair, raising questions about whether Holder would have -- or should have -- informed President Obama.

According to the administration's version of events, the president did not find out about the situation until last Thursday. At the time that Holder was notified, months earlier, many details were still unknown. Petraeus himself was not interviewed until the fall. And according to one source, it is long-standing FBI policy for the FBI not to brief Congress or the White House in the middle of a criminal probe that does not involve a security threat.

However, several lawmakers and other officials say the mere fact that Petraeus was flagged in an investigation should have been reason enough to kick the issue up from the Justice Department to the White House.

"He was the director of the CIA, not Fish & Wildlife. The implications are massive," Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, told FoxNews.com in an email. Chaffetz said the heads of the House and Senate intelligence committees should have been looped in. "Notification should have also gone to the president -- immediately," Chaffetz said.

Top congressional lawmakers, including the leaders of key committees, have raised concerns that they weren't notified earlier.

But John Bolton, former U.S. ambassador to the U.N. under the George W. Bush administration, said the bigger question surrounds whether the White House was notified.

"The idea that the White House didn't learn of this potential problem until Election Day, I just find incomprehensible. Did the attorney general sit on this information for two months?" he asked. Bolton said it raises the question "of whether the information was suppressed."

The Justice Department declined to comment for this story.

The law states that intelligence officials "shall" notify the congressional intelligence committees of "all intelligence activities." It could be argued that this didn't rise to such a level, technically. After all, Fox News confirms that when mistress Paula Broadwell's second and final interview with the FBI was conducted the Friday before the election, they were able to formally conclude no crimes had been committed. While some classified documents were found on her computer, there was no information indicating Petraeus was the source.

Further, according to the Wall Street Journal, a 2007 memo from then-Attorney General Michael Mukasey said Justice employees were not supposed to tell the White House or Congress about pending criminal investigations.

But Tom Dupree, former deputy assistant attorney general under George W. Bush, suggested the unique nature of this situation should have been a flag to notify at least Congress -- and perhaps the White House.

"The attorney general -- really it's his obligation to notify the relative congressional committees," Dupree told Fox News. "And in some cases, the attorney general might want to notify the White House or loop in the White House so the White House is not caught off guard by this disclosure. But at the end of the day, something almost certainly would get elevated to the attorney general."

Meanwhile, details continue to emerge about the chain of events that triggered the probe that ultimately uncovered Petraeus' affair. Fox News has learned it started with harassing emails sent from dummy accounts operated by Petraeus' mistress.

The new details help clarify the somewhat confusing narrative regarding how the head of the CIA ended up in the FBI's crosshairs in the first place. Fox News confirmed Sunday that it all started when another woman, 37-year-old Jill Kelley, a close friend of the Petraeus family, received harassing emails. She then alerted the FBI, where a friend of Kelley's works, about the emails that appeared to be an attempt to blackmail Petraeus, which started the investigation, sources said.

There were initially questions over where those emails came from, with early indications that they might not have come from Broadwell.

However, Fox News confirmed from multiple law enforcement sources that those emails came from multiple dummy accounts, which were traced back to Broadwell. The reason the FBI had jurisdiction is because cyber-harassment is a federal crime. And once the FBI got to Broadwell, they uncovered the affair.

From there, Fox News has learned, the first knowledge of the affair outside the FBI came from an agency whistle-blower who contacted a Capitol Hill Republican, who then told House Majority Leader Eric Cantor.

According to a senior administration official, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper first informed the White House about the situation last Wednesday. From there, Petraeus on Thursday morning called National Security Adviser Tom Donilon to request a meeting with Obama, who was briefed on the situation by staff later that day before taking the meeting in the afternoon.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/12/holder-notified-petraeus-probe-in-late-summer/#ixzz2C3pPWNMy

Reminds me of the joke...

If you get caught selling machine guns and vibrators out of your trunk in a back alley in Mobile, AL, you will get arrested...for selling vibrators!!!!

Holder was handing over thousands of assault rifles to Mexican narco terrorists and he is getting called out for SEX! This country is messed up in SO many ways!

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Reminds me of the joke...

If you get caught selling machine guns and vibrators out of your trunk in a back alley in Mobile, AL, you will get arrested...for selling vibrators!!!!

Holder was handing over thousands of assault rifles to Mexican narco terrorists and he is getting called out for SEX! This country is messed up in SO many ways!

No he is getting called out because they are scared to death of what he knows about Benghazi. They need to discredit him and silence him. The affair is old news

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Stupping another woman as a soldier is a crime. How crazy is that?

If you work for the CIA, it's only illegal if you're doing a foreigner! Luckily for Betrayus, he banged a US citizen, so all is fine.

I personally don't care about this. His wife may, but that's his personal problem. If he had banged a spy from Iran, I'd be upset, but since she's a hot American, not my problem, nor Obama's. Kennedy banged Marylin Monroe, Clinton got BJs from young girls working under him and his desk on taxpayers' money. This country is a bit too obsessed with sex for my taste.

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all . . . . The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic . . . . There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

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Eric Holder involved in another cover up? Say it ain't so!

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Eric Holder involved in another cover up? Say it ain't so!

i wonder what the operation name was for this? :hehe:

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