How many Repubs are here

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Just curious about something. One thing I do agree with the Obama voters on, is that the Repub party is a dinosaur. I made no secret of the fact that I supported Romney, but the main reason I did was I felt he would lead us to fiscal demise slower than Obama and because I thought he would not ok illegal immigration. (Not sure about the later). I voted for Romney but will never vote for the lesser of two evils again.

I am not a repub. Here are my issues . Do I have a party. Could we unite as Americans behind this kind of platform ?

I am pro-Choice

I am Pro Gay Unions

I am for reducing entitlements drastically ( Welfare etc should be a means to an end, and you show responsible behavior and progress)(This includes all entitlements to farmers, Fema Flood etc)

I am for if you have a child and you are on public assistance you are on Birth Control until you are self sufficient.

I am for bringing all out troops home and cutting the Military slowly to a National Defense role

I am for A Terrorism Policy that says "we stay out of your affairs but if you attack us it the reaction will be violent swift and deadly in proportion to the act you committed

I am for ending all Racial preferences of any kind and having a color blind society, with stiff penalties if real discrimination can be proven

I am for stopping all Illegal Immigration thru enforcement against Employers with stiff Fines for those that violate the policy.

I am for abolishing Tax Free status for all Churches. No more preferential treatment for anyone

I am for a flat tax with no loopholes that kicks in above the poverty level.No Refunds just send in your % that's it.

I am for abolishing the IRS as we know it

Lastley I am not sure what to do about Health Care it's fed up. Obama care is not going to drive down cost, it is just going to subsidize cost to others. I do know what we do know is not working but we can come up with something

[rade2rising 205]

the most important thing in your list that is very very important is abolishing this tax free status for ALL churches. Alot of corruption going on there. If we tax them surely our deficits will diminish overnite. someone needs to concentrate on that. Also that 10% church tites exemtpion is BS. Tax them hard. Even God should not be able to avoid the wrath of IRS.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I am Pro Gay Unions

Unions are gay?

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

I am a registered Democrat in a safe Democratic district and a state almost exclusively controlled by Democrats. I vote locally on what have you done for me lately, and my vote on the Presidential election is irrelevant, since the state as a whole overwhelmingly votes Democrat. I didn't vote for either of the two major candidates.

I don't care about most things people do as long as they do not get in my face about it. I live in a very diverse area, and have no problem with any of that. I also believe in open borders. I also believe we are being overtaxed, schools suck not because they don't have enough money, or classes are too big, but because the hippies have ruined the curriculum, and politics over competence determines who are teaching our kids. I object to all these hippie solutions to perceived problems that just end up becoming slush funds for further politicking around underutilized and overpriced projects. I also believe hippies are basically lazy, like spending other peoples' money, and have suffered brain damage from abusing drugs.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Unions are gay?

They can be for sure. What I am saying is basically that Gay people should be afforded what ever rights a domestic partnership entitles a straight couple to. Personally I think they Govt should get out of the marriage business and defining what a marriage is. If a church wants to marry only Heterosexual couples and define their marriages as that. Fine. If someone else wants to call it something else that is fine also.

The Govt's only role in this should be defining what rights people in a legal Union have or I am even ok with everybody is a citizen. Who you live with and what you call it is none of the Govt's biz. They do not even recognize civil Unions. If someone wants Medical power of attorney, estate rights, etc etclet them do the paper work. Let the Church's handle that. If someone wants God to bless their marriage, have at it. None of the Govt's concern.

I am a registered Democrat in a safe Democratic district and a state almost exclusively controlled by Democrats. I vote locally on what have you done for me lately, and my vote on the Presidential election is irrelevant, since the state as a whole overwhelmingly votes Democrat. I didn't vote for either of the two major candidates.

I don't care about most things people do as long as they do not get in my face about it. I live in a very diverse area, and have no problem with any of that. I also believe in open borders. I also believe we are being overtaxed, schools suck not because they don't have enough money, or classes are too big, but because the hippies have ruined the curriculum, and politics over competence determines who are teaching our kids. I object to all these hippie solutions to perceived problems that just end up becoming slush funds for further politicking around underutilized and overpriced projects. I also believe hippies are basically lazy, like spending other peoples' money, and have suffered brain damage from abusing drugs.

ROFl agree to a point. So you are for Open Borders. Surely that was a typo

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Just curious about something. One thing I do agree with the Obama voters on, is that the Repub party is a dinosaur. I made no secret of the fact that I supported Romney, but the main reason I did was I felt he would lead us to fiscal demise slower than Obama and because I thought he would not ok illegal immigration. (Not sure about the later). I voted for Romney but will never vote for the lesser of two evils again.

I am not a repub. Here are my issues . Do I have a party. Could we unite as Americans behind this kind of platform ?

I am pro-Choice

I am Pro Gay Unions

I am for reducing entitlements drastically ( Welfare etc should be a means to an end, and you show responsible behavior and progress)(This includes all entitlements to farmers, Fema Flood etc)

I am for if you have a child and you are on public assistance you are on Birth Control until you are self sufficient.

I am for bringing all out troops home and cutting the Military slowly to a National Defense role

I am for A Terrorism Policy that says "we stay out of your affairs but if you attack us it the reaction will be violent swift and deadly in proportion to the act you committed

I am for ending all Racial preferences of any kind and having a color blind society, with stiff penalties if real discrimination can be proven

I am for stopping all Illegal Immigration thru enforcement against Employers with stiff Fines for those that violate the policy.

I am for abolishing Tax Free status for all Churches. No more preferential treatment for anyone

I am for a flat tax with no loopholes that kicks in above the poverty level.No Refunds just send in your % that's it.

I am for abolishing the IRS as we know it

Lastley I am not sure what to do about Health Care it's fed up. Obama care is not going to drive down cost, it is just going to subsidize cost to others. I do know what we do know is not working but we can come up with something

I guess my point is, that I don't think any of us a truly happy with either party. Social issues are killing the Pubs,, and the dems are going to create a Fiscal spending policy that will end this country. We can not keep supporting massive govt spending and entitlements. We can not keep being the world police.

Could most of us here live with some variation of the above platform.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

So you are for Open Borders. Surely that was a typo

Nope. I believe in equilibria, and citizenship should not be determined by place of birth, but rather where you choose to live.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I am Pro Gay Unions.

Unions are gay?

They can be for sure.

Would the gay ones be private or public sector unions?

[decocker 7,198]

I also believe hippies are basically lazy, like spending other peoples' money, and have suffered brain damage from abusing drugs.

this hippy wants churches to be taxed like any other business..

and people should be able to live where they want.

i make enough that i pay taxes, no refund check. like most hippies, people really, i wish i could catch that break. i could certainly use it.

[N-o-l-a 7,168]

How about the Libertarian party? It sounds close enough to your beliefs. I think opening more medical schools and allowing more applicants in would help reduce the cost of healthcare. Do you have any idea how much some doctors are paid?

The only thing I don't agree with libertarians on is abortion, but I think all the other issues are important enough to outshadow it.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

this hippy wants churches to be taxed like any other business..

Should Goodwill, the Salvation Army and the Red Cross be taxed as well? Just curious. If an organization is supported wholly through donations, I have no problem with its tax exempt status. They still incur other costs, like mortgages, insurance, and utility bills.

Edited November 11, 2012 by The Patriot

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Nope. I believe in equilibria, and citizenship should not be determined by place of birth, but rather where you choose to live.

That's so far out there I don't even know how to respond. Ok .

Would the gay ones be private or public sector unions?

I guess as long as teh Govt does not give preference or sanction any kind of Union it could be public private or they can dance around rocks in time square. Matters not to me. Govt just needs to treat it all the same

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

this hippy wants churches to be taxed like any other business..

and people should be able to live where they want.

i make enough that i pay taxes, no refund check. like most hippies, people really, i wish i could catch that break. i could certainly use it.

So you really think that anybody that decides to live here can just come across the border, no check no nothing and set up shop. Surely there can not be two of you here that think that. The U.S. would be a third world country in 3 years if that happened. as our population would explode and we could not feed or have jobs for everyone and it would collapse.

Should Goodwill, the Salvation Army and the Red Cross be taxed as well? Just curious. If an organization is supported wholly through donations, I have no problem with its tax exempt status. They still incur other costs, like mortgages, insurance, and utility bills.

I don't know. I do think it is absurd people like the Osteen operate tax free in this country

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

1352653226[/url]' post='5815281']

How about the Libertarian party? It sounds close enough to your beliefs. I think opening more medical schools and allowing more applicants in would help reduce the cost of healthcare. Do you have any idea how much some doctors are paid?

The only thing I don't agree with libertarians on is abortion, but I think all the other issues are important enough to outshadow it.

Yes I do and it is a small fraction of the cost of health care. My GP. Makes about 140k on a good year. He has abot 10 years of training. He should make more . Way to many people working in the health field who no provide medical care. I bet more time is spent on the admin side of a three day hospital stay than on providing direct medical care.

1352653226[/url]' post='5815281']

How about the Libertarian party? It sounds close enough to your beliefs. I think opening more medical schools and allowing more applicants in would help reduce the cost of healthcare. Do you have any idea how much some doctors are paid?

The only thing I don't agree with libertarians on is abortion, but I think all the other issues are important enough to outshadow it.

Yes I do and it is a small fraction of the cost of health care. My GP. Makes about 140k on a good year. He has abot 10 years of training. He should make more . Way to many people working in the health field who no provide medical care. I bet more time is spent on the admin side of a three day hospital stay than on providing direct medical care.

1352653226[/url]' post='5815281']

How about the Libertarian party? It sounds close enough to your beliefs. I think opening more medical schools and allowing more applicants in would help reduce the cost of healthcare. Do you have any idea how much some doctors are paid?

The only thing I don't agree with libertarians on is abortion, but I think all the other issues are important enough to outshadow it.

Yes I do and it is a small fraction of the cost of health care. My GP. Makes about 140k on a good year. He has abot 10 years of training. He should make more . Way to many people working in the health field who no provide medical care. I bet more time is spent on the admin side of a three day hospital stay than on providing direct medical care.

[Rebecca Jo 1,962]

Semantics.

I wish people would stop saying "repub".

The common slang is "GOP".

When someone says repub, the first thing that pops in my mind is an infected hair................