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I was about to write something about how you meant the 7th commandment, but I just learned that there isn't actual agreement as to the breakdown of the 10 commandments. I didn't realize that. Interesting.

And apparently there is a new schism within the faith that allows some 'generic adultery' but condemns 'pig-like' adultery. You learn something new every day!

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And apparently there is a new schism within the faith that allows some 'generic adultery' but condemns 'pig-like' adultery. You learn something new every day!

I was told adultery in the Biblical, historic sense, meant sex with a married woman, not your wife. It was less concerned with sex outside of marriage, and more concerned with "soiling" someone else's property.

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I wonder if he ends up dumping his wife for this gal?

that's if his wife doesn't dump him - she'll be wealthier than many on this site. any idea what a retired 4 star's paycheck is?

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I was told adultery in the Biblical, historic sense, meant sex with a married woman, not your wife. It was less concerned with sex outside of marriage, and more concerned with "soiling" someone else's property.

A person either is married or will potentially be married. So everyone you aren't married to is someone else's 'property.' The only exception you could argue for is having sex with someone you will eventually marry, but that assumes you know something that you don't.

If you want to think about it in terms of Biblical misogyny, a girl is the property of her father until she gets married (not implying incest).

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I was told adultery in the Biblical, historic sense, meant sex with a married woman, not your wife. It was less concerned with sex outside of marriage, and more concerned with "soiling" someone else's property.

It's kind of like those people on here professing to be Catholics yet are pro homosexual.

that's if his wife doesn't dump him - she'll be wealthier than many on this site. any idea what a retired 4 star's paycheck is?

She's going to end up in fat city if she divorces him and she should have plenty of money to get a make over..including new everything.

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How so? I don't see the analogy.

I know someone here will comment on using the term "analogy" when talking about homosexuality.

I was told adultery in the Biblical, historic sense, meant sex with a married woman, not your wife. It was less concerned with sex outside of marriage, and more concerned with "soiling" someone else's property.

Yeah, a man's wife was his property. So if a guy slept with another man's wife, that was adultery. If a married man slept with an unmarried woman, that was ok.

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What on earth are you talking about Danno? What is just a "generic" "affair" to a good Christian such as yourself? Have you forgotten the Ten Commandments? See #6 and get back to us. After praying for forgiveness of course.

A generic affair is one in which two people have some type of relationship that eventually slips into and affair. Even the most well intended persons can find themselves in this situation.

A Pig-Affair, is more along the line of the Bill Clinton situation, he would see a some secretary across the room while speaking somewhere and have the security service go "make arraignments". In the end he humiliated his wife and daughter beyond an historical measure.

I know a lady who has HIV due to her husband bringing it home.

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I know someone here will comment on using the term "analogy" when talking about homosexuality.

Yeah, a man's wife was his property. So if a guy slept with another man's wife, that was adultery. If a married man slept with an unmarried woman, that was ok.

"Analist"?

I am sure the average Christian can interpret it the way they need to for who they are boinking at the time.

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that's if his wife doesn't dump him - she'll be wealthier than many on this site. any idea what a retired 4 star's paycheck is?

Roughly about 142,000 per year give or take. She is entitled to half.

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Roughly about 142,000 per year give or take. She is entitled to half.

Sure, you would think since that is what society dictates. But they may have had a pre-nuptial agreement covering it and maybe she gets $500 per month. That would be OK but a pre-nuptial addressing sex would not be?

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Roughly about 142,000 per year give or take. She is entitled to half.

If you think about it, the man was a 4 star general running much of our war strategy.... yet making less than the head of the sanitation dept. in any med sized city.

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http://news.yahoo.com/holly-petraeus-beyond-furious-103804700.html

Holly Petraeus Is Beyond 'Furious'

By MARTHA RADDATZ | ABC OTUS News – Mon, Nov 12, 2012

Fury is an inadequate description for Holly Petraeus' reaction after she learned that her CIA-director husband had an affair with his biographer, a former spokesman for David Petraeus told ABC News.

"Well, as you can imagine, she's not exactly pleased right now," retired U.S. Army Col. Steve Boylan said. "In a conversation with David Petraeus this weekend, he said that, 'Furious would be an understatement.' And I think anyone that's been put in that situation would probably agree. He deeply hurt the family."

As for Petraeus, the retired Army general who resigned as CIA director last week after admitting the extramarital relationship, he, "first of all, deeply regrets and knows how much pain this has caused his family," Boylan added.

"He had a huge job and he felt he was doing great work and that is all gone now."

Petraeus knows "this was poor judgment on his part. It was a colossal mistake. ... He's acknowledged that," Boylan said.

One result is that Petraeus could possibly face military prosecution for adultery if officials turn up any evidence to counter his apparent claims that the affair began after he left the military.

But Boylan says the affair between Petraeus and his biographer, Paula Broadwell, both of whom are married, began several months after his retirement from the Army in August 2011 and ended four months ago.

Broadwell, 40, had extraordinary access to the 60-year-old general during six trips she took to Afghanistan as his official biographer, a plum assignment for a novice writer.

"For him to allow the very first biography to be written about him, to be written by someone who had never written a book before, seemed very odd to me," former Petraeus aide Peter Mansoor told ABC News.

The timeline of the relationship, according to Patraeus, would mean that he was carrying on the affair for the majority of his tenure at the CIA, where he began as director Sept. 6, 2011. If he carried on the affair while serving in the Army, however, Patraeus could face charges, according to Article 134 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, which reprimands conduct "of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces."

Whether the military would pursue such action, whatever evidence it accumulates, is unclear.

As the details of the investigation launched by the FBI unraveled this weekend, it became clear that the woman at the heart of the inquiry that led to Petraeus' downfall had been identified as Jill Kelley, a Florida woman who volunteers to help the military. She is a family friend of Petraeus, who Broadwell apparently felt threatened by.

Kelley and her husband are longtime supporters of the military, and six months ago she was named "Honorary Ambassador to Central Command" for her volunteer work with the military. Officials say Kelley is not romantically linked to Petraeus, but befriended the general and his wife when he was stationed in Florida. The Kelleys spent Christmases in group settings with the Petraeuses and visited them in Washington D.C., where Kelley's sister and her son live.

"We and our family have been friends with Gen. Petraeus and his family for over five years." Kelley said in a statement Sunday. "We respect his and his family's privacy and want the same for us and our three children."

Earlier this year, around the time that Petraeus and Broadwell were breaking off their affair, Kelley began receiving anonymous emails, which she found so threatening she went to authorities. The FBI traced the messages to Broadwell's computer, where they found other salacious and explicit emails between Broadwell and Petraeus that made it clear to officials that the two were carrying on an affair.

Investigators uncovered no compromising of classified information or criminal activity, sources familiar with the probe said, adding that all that was found was a lot of "human drama."

Broadwell, a married mother of two, had access to Petraeus while she was with him in Afghanistan as his official biographer. People close to the general had previously suspected Broadwell's feelings for him had crossed a professional line.

They found Broadwell, who spent a year embedded with Petraeus in Afghanistan, to be embarrassing and far too "gushy" about him. They said to one another they thought Broadwell "was in love with him," sources told ABC News.

Petraeus is said to have been the one to have broken off the extramarital affair.

His storied career, first as the public face of two wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and later as director of the CIA, came crashing down Friday when he announced his resignation from the intelligence agency, citing the indiscretion.

"After being married for over 37 years, I showed extremely poor judgment by engaging in an extramarital affair. Such behavior is unacceptable, both as a husband and as the leader of an organization such as ours," Petraeus said in a statement Friday.

Director of National Intelligence James Clapper was made aware of the Petraeus situation Tuesday evening around 5 p.m. by the FBI, according to a senior intelligence source.

After having several conversations with Petraeus that evening and the next day, Clapper advised Petraeus that the best thing to do would be for him to resign, the source said.

Clapper notified the White House the next afternoon that Petraeus was considering resigning, according to the source. Petraeus then went to the White House Thursday and told the president he thought he should resign, and Obama accepted his resignation the next day, the source said.

Despite the lengthy investigation into Broadwell by the FBI, the White House says it was not made aware of it until Wednesday, the day after the election, a revelation that surprised many.

"It just doesn't add up. That the FBI would be carrying on this type of investigation without, again, bringing it to the president or the highest levels of the White House," Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., said.

Petraeus and his wife, Holly, who have been married for 38 years, are said to be staying in their Arlington Home and are doing "OK."

"Knowing the family, I suspect it will be hard work, but given the effort, they will get through it," Boylan, the former Petraeus spokesman, said.

Numerous questions still remain about the investigation, and some on Capitol Hill are also frustrated because Petraeus was schedule to testify to the House and Senate intelligence committees about the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, in September.

The timing of Petraeus' resignation "was what it was," an official told ABC News, adding that the time had come to tie up any loose ends in the investigation and confront the general.

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