"They smoked us"

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Regardless, he's the President for the next 4 years. And if the GOP doesn't get their heads out of their a$$es, they may have an even longer White House dry spell.

Agreed, the GOP needs to give amnesty to millions of criminals along with more free stuff.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

Agreed, the GOP needs to give amnesty to millions of criminals along with more free stuff.

No, they need to start thinking about the people that put them in office if they want to get reelected. It about the people, not the party and they've only cared about the party for the past 2+ years and it didn't work. We still have a Democrat for President, and they didn't get control of the Senate. Time to rethink their strategy.

[Karee 4,191]

When does he collect his next Nobel Peace Prize? I guess if you get one for getting elected, you should get two for getting re-elected!

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Nope, I can't. Blacks and latinos only voted for Obama because of that. Just ignore that they voted for Obama before he did that. And they voted for Democrats before they ever heard of Obama. Also ignore that women flocked to Obama as well, and generally support Democrats. Ignore that the white male vote did not show up for Romney for reasons you can't explain.

What ever makes this loss easier to take, I'll support you.

I am not ignoring the fact they supported him the first time and Democrats, you keep changing the subject

What I am trying to get you to tell me is what specific actions has Obama done, that the Pubs have not done that make Blacks and Latino's love him so much. You keep saying minorties don't matter to Pubs and they do to dems.... Give me some proof or examples of legislative action to back this up ?

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

I don't think they need to match the Democrats at all. Having two similar parties kind of defeats the purpose of a party system, no? I simply said their ideas are outdated and cater to an America that no longer exists. And they refuse to admit it. Hopefully this "shocking" loss will wake some people up to what most people already knew - they're out of touch and don't stand a chance until they fix themselves.

Nobody's trying to diverge you from any topic. The topic is minorities and the parties they choose, is it not? You're just simply not getting the answer you want to hear because nobody's interested in bullsh*tting you.

If you think that minorities have equal opportunities with both parties, then there's nothing I can say to change your mind. The bubble hasn't burst for you, perhaps.

I want you to change my mind. I want you to tell me what exactly it is the Dems do that have supported Blacks and Hispanics. Give me specific acts. What have the Pubs done specifically to oppose Blacks and Latinos.

We already have Obama's executive enacted dream act/Temp amnesty... That is 1. Anyone got more ?

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

well he's raised their unemployment rates since he took over, but no one wants to point that out.

Actually one Poster said Obama cares about Jobs for Blacks and Latino's that is why they support him. I asked him how he made things better for them in that regard, and he could not answer. The fact is that Black unemployment has been the highest , for the longest period of time, than under any President in recent History. Somehow they all think they are better under Obama because he cares.

It's like when I was a network admin talking to the Graphics Dept.

Me- I hate supporting your Macs becuse they are a pain in the butt

User-- No they are better

Me- In what way is your Mac better

User-- It just is

Me-How

User -because it is.. It's cool

Me- But it will not allow you to do XYZ

User-I don't care it's better.

Get the drift

He is feeding a lot more of them on food stamps, and there were those 'Bama Bucks. I never heard whether or not they got many of those passed out.

We are getting close to answers here I just feel it

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Most people who benefit from food stamps or government assistance live in red states.

Yes the do my friend and guess what super duper demographic that voted for Obama represents those recipients by a very disproportionate amount as a percent of the population ?

We might be on a path to the answer you have not been able to give

Also if you look at the blue state support it for the most part was concentrated in large population centers with large ethnic population. centers that tipped the states blue.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

The ironic thing, Evylin, is that Republicans built their party in recent years on social issues, so I am not sure who says they don't matter (the same Republicans who started it?). For instance, the whole idea of "moral majority" is a conservative idea to get people who don't understand anything about politics to vote for a certain candidate based on some single issue that they do understand (but of course don't consider all ramifications thoroughly), like abortion.

You are dead on balls correct. The idiots in the Pub party that spend their time in the spotlight talking about Abortion rape, and prayer in school, Gay Marriage. are buffoons and drag the party down. I voted for Romney but I voted Libertarian when I had a choice in every other slot.

If the Pubs were smart they would have a list of words you can never say in public--- GAY,Abortion, Prayer and rape would be good starts. All very personal issues that people should work out for themselves.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

You've been given this answer many times or versions of it, yet you won't have it. People vote for a variety of reasons, some of it logical, some of it emotional; either way it's all valid. You keep asking for some special treat he gave to Blacks and Latinos to explain their support for him, why should there be? A rising tide lifts all boats...

If you believe in his support of education, unions, equal pay for women, then as a black and Latino that specifically helps you, it also helps other groups.

1. Too many Black and Latino households are single parent with women, it benefits them to have equal pay. That is benefit to them and to all women.

2. A big reason why unemployment is so bad in Black and Latino communities is because too many of them only have high school diplomas or less and we know that you have/had a better chance in finding work and keeping your job in this economy, with a higher level of education. So if you're Black or Latino, Obama's plans for education will benefit you and everyone else.

3. Historically, the jobs that offered Blacks and Latinos the most opportunities have been in the public sector or UNIONS. Postal workers, Sanitation, Transit, teachers, social workers, Law Enforcement and many dirty jobs that most people don't want. So if you're a Black and Latino, Obama's support for Unions, benefits you and other union members.

Now if you're asking for some piece of policy that says, "this is for you Black and Latino and no one else", i don't think you're going to find it. Obama has been pretty consistent with his "I'm the President of everyone" declarations. Is the Dream Act only for Latinos or does it apply to all 'illegals'?

One more thing: What Obama really did specifically was not be a Republican, it really is that simple. Unfortunately the Republican party has alienated entire populations to the extent that they will, in vast numbers not vote for them in national elections. That's it, there's no magic bullet, no secret sauce; if you piss off enough people long enough, they will vote for the other guy; regardless of what he does specifically.

Historically it used to primarily be the black vote the Republicans couldn't get, but now it has expanded to other groups... the fundamental truth is the Republican brand is poisoned for huge groups of people and Obama doesn't have to do anything specifically, except not be a Republican (with all they stand for) in order to get those groups to support him and his party in large numbers. This state of affairs is only going to get worst for the Republicans as the demographics continue to shift.

Not to say Obama doesn't have a policy; I am saying it doesn't matter. Until the Republicans figure out a way to attract a more diverse group of people, this pattern will continue, regardless of what the next Democrat does specifically or not. The problem lies within the Republican party, not the populations they can't seem to attract.

1. Too many Black and Latino households are single parent with women, it benefits them to have equal pay. That is benefit to them and to all women.--And Many more are unemployed and for a longer time than with any President in history. So they support him why ? Also why has the family unit broken down so badly in the past 40 years in these demographics.

2. 2. A big reason why unemployment is so bad in Black and Latino communities is because too many of them only have high school diplomas or less and we know that you have/had a better chance in finding work and keeping your job in this economy, with a higher level of education. So if you're Black or Latino, Obama's plans for education will benefit you and everyone else. Why do you think so many drop out of school and do not get the free education provided--SEE number 1. Also what is Obama's education plan ???

3. 3. Historically, the jobs that offered Blacks and Latinos the most opportunities have been in the public sector or UNIONS. Postal workers, Sanitation, Transit, teachers, social workers, Law Enforcement and many dirty jobs that most people don't want. So if you're a Black and Latino, Obama's support for Unions, benefits you and other union members. --So Obama supports Unions which are 71% white 9% black and about 12% Hispanic. Sorry that does not add up.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Oregon is number 2 in food stamps, only passed by Mississippi.

Top states for by total number of people on Welfare---Anyone see a trend

California New York Pennsylvania Michigan Ohio Tennessee Washington Texas Indiana Massachusetts Missouri New Jersey Arizona Florida

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

You've been given this answer many times or versions of it, yet you won't have it. People vote for a variety of reasons, some of it logical, some of it emotional; either way it's all valid. You keep asking for some special treat he gave to Blacks and Latinos to explain their support for him, why should there be? A rising tide lifts all boats...

If you believe in his support of education, unions, equal pay for women, then as a black and Latino that specifically helps you, it also helps other groups.

1. Too many Black and Latino households are single parent with women, it benefits them to have equal pay. That is benefit to them and to all women.

2. A big reason why unemployment is so bad in Black and Latino communities is because too many of them only have high school diplomas or less and we know that you have/had a better chance in finding work and keeping your job in this economy, with a higher level of education. So if you're Black or Latino, Obama's plans for education will benefit you and everyone else.

3. Historically, the jobs that offered Blacks and Latinos the most opportunities have been in the public sector or UNIONS. Postal workers, Sanitation, Transit, teachers, social workers, Law Enforcement and many dirty jobs that most people don't want. So if you're a Black and Latino, Obama's support for Unions, benefits you and other union members.

Now if you're asking for some piece of policy that says, "this is for you Black and Latino and no one else", i don't think you're going to find it. Obama has been pretty consistent with his "I'm the President of everyone" declarations. Is the Dream Act only for Latinos or does it apply to all 'illegals'?

One more thing: What Obama really did specifically was not be a Republican, it really is that simple. Unfortunately the Republican party has alienated entire populations to the extent that they will, in vast numbers not vote for them in national elections. That's it, there's no magic bullet, no secret sauce; if you piss off enough people long enough, they will vote for the other guy; regardless of what he does specifically.

Historically it used to primarily be the black vote the Republicans couldn't get, but now it has expanded to other groups... the fundamental truth is the Republican brand is poisoned for huge groups of people and Obama doesn't have to do anything specifically, except not be a Republican (with all they stand for) in order to get those groups to support him and his party in large numbers. This state of affairs is only going to get worst for the Republicans as the demographics continue to shift.

Not to say Obama doesn't have a policy; I am saying it doesn't matter. Until the Republicans figure out a way to attract a more diverse group of people, this pattern will continue, regardless of what the next Democrat does specifically or not. The problem lies within the Republican party, not the populations they can't seem to attract.

Hey Run, I've noticed how you haven't commented on this post. This is exactly the answer you keep asking for, but after reading your posts I realize what you want to hear:

As explained in this post, there isn't anything that is exclusively for Blacks or Browns because he is everyone's president. If he did that, the right would crucify him for being racist against white people. The Civil rights bill, desegregation has already been done so what else can he do? He has kept his nose clean, and been a generally good person with all of the ####### he has thrown at him, and that is why people(minorities and whites) voted for him. You want to hear he keeps welfare going and giving out more government dependent things to us, but as we all know white people are on that too, so you can't use that unless you look at your fellow man as well.

As far as illegals go, there are more than hispanics over here illegally, being on this board we hear about it all the time, but the Pubs only want to focus on Mexico. I've read Canada has a big problem with this(sorry Ev) but I guess they can blend in a little better.

And lastly, let's take a look at who he was running against. The repubs didn't even want him as their candidate, but he was the only one left standing. His background of being born rich, a bully, a vulture capitalist, and being out of touch with the common person all played into his defeat. And most of what I said came from his OWN party. Let's be frank ok? The ONLY saving grace he had, was when Obama slept during the first debate, that was his reprieve. Between his character, the 47% comment video, and just the general views of his campaign he was never going to win. But people on here keep wanting to harp on Obama, do a background comparison. No Pubs want to talk about Mitt's flaws, but they get real mad when we praise Obama.

Here is the root of your problem, where you live and what you've gone through in your life you seem to have a very jaded outlook on people of color, this thread has grown because when you keep asking a question and everyone has answered you, you keep rejecting it because you want to hear of free stuff(which several folks including myself have no idea what that is)and things that aren't good for the country as a whole. Not all minorities are lazy and need help. I don't keep company with anyone who isn't working or going to school, so maybe that's why I am out of touch with this whole free stuff thing.

In closing, you had people of color and white people vote for Obama for different reasons, but I suspect the biggest of them all was look at who he was running against. You voted for Romney, why? Because he had a vision for America that you liked, or is it because he looks like you? White people will never get grilled about why they voted for their candidate, but when you look at a minority, they don't ask who they voted for, because they have already assumed they voted for the "other" guy. Ask, it might just surprise you.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Hey Run, I've noticed how you haven't commented on this post. This is exactly the answer you keep asking for, but after reading your posts I realize what you want to hear:

As explained in this post, there isn't anything that is exclusively for Blacks or Browns because he is everyone's president. If he did that, the right would crucify him for being racist against white people. The Civil rights bill, desegregation has already been done so what else can he do? He has kept his nose clean, and been a generally good person with all of the ####### he has thrown at him, and that is why people(minorities and whites) voted for him. You want to hear he keeps welfare going and giving out more government dependent things to us, but as we all know white people are on that too, so you can't use that unless you look at your fellow man as well.

As far as illegals go, there are more than hispanics over here illegally, being on this board we hear about it all the time, but the Pubs only want to focus on Mexico. I've read Canada has a big problem with this(sorry Ev) but I guess they can blend in a little better.

And lastly, let's take a look at who he was running against. The repubs didn't even want him as their candidate, but he was the only one left standing. His background of being born rich, a bully, a vulture capitalist, and being out of touch with the common person all played into his defeat. And most of what I said came from his OWN party. Let's be frank ok? The ONLY saving grace he had, was when Obama slept during the first debate, that was his reprieve. Between his character, the 47% comment video, and just the general views of his campaign he was never going to win. But people on here keep wanting to harp on Obama, do a background comparison. No Pubs want to talk about Mitt's flaws, but they get real mad when we praise Obama.

Here is the root of your problem, where you live and what you've gone through in your life you seem to have a very jaded outlook on people of color, this thread has grown because when you keep asking a question and everyone has answered you, you keep rejecting it because you want to hear of free stuff(which several folks including myself have no idea what that is)and things that aren't good for the country as a whole. Not all minorities are lazy and need help. I don't keep company with anyone who isn't working or going to school, so maybe that's why I am out of touch with this whole free stuff thing.

In closing, you had people of color and white people vote for Obama for different reasons, but I suspect the biggest of them all was look at who he was running against. You voted for Romney, why? Because he had a vision for America that you liked, or is it because he looks like you? White people will never get grilled about why they voted for their candidate, but when you look at a minority, they don't ask who they voted for, because they have already assumed they voted for the "other" guy. Ask, it might just surprise you.

Look above you dude.. Glad you noticed I had not replied to this I did .

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Look above you dude.. Glad you noticed I had not replied to this I did .

I was typing it out when you responded damn you

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Hey Run, I've noticed how you haven't commented on this post. This is exactly the answer you keep asking for, but after reading your posts I realize what you want to hear:

As explained in this post, there isn't anything that is exclusively for Blacks or Browns because he is everyone's president. If he did that, the right would crucify him for being racist against white people. The Civil rights bill, desegregation has already been done so what else can he do? He has kept his nose clean, and been a generally good person with all of the ####### he has thrown at him, and that is why people(minorities and whites) voted for him. You want to hear he keeps welfare going and giving out more government dependent things to us, but as we all know white people are on that too, so you can't use that unless you look at your fellow man as well.

As far as illegals go, there are more than hispanics over here illegally, being on this board we hear about it all the time, but the Pubs only want to focus on Mexico. I've read Canada has a big problem with this(sorry Ev) but I guess they can blend in a little better.

And lastly, let's take a look at who he was running against. The repubs didn't even want him as their candidate, but he was the only one left standing. His background of being born rich, a bully, a vulture capitalist, and being out of touch with the common person all played into his defeat. And most of what I said came from his OWN party. Let's be frank ok? The ONLY saving grace he had, was when Obama slept during the first debate, that was his reprieve. Between his character, the 47% comment video, and just the general views of his campaign he was never going to win. But people on here keep wanting to harp on Obama, do a background comparison. No Pubs want to talk about Mitt's flaws, but they get real mad when we praise Obama.

Here is the root of your problem, where you live and what you've gone through in your life you seem to have a very jaded outlook on people of color, this thread has grown because when you keep asking a question and everyone has answered you, you keep rejecting it because you want to hear of free stuff(which several folks including myself have no idea what that is)and things that aren't good for the country as a whole. Not all minorities are lazy and need help. I don't keep company with anyone who isn't working or going to school, so maybe that's why I am out of touch with this whole free stuff thing.

In closing, you had people of color and white people vote for Obama for different reasons, but I suspect the biggest of them all was look at who he was running against. You voted for Romney, why? Because he had a vision for America that you liked, or is it because he looks like you? White people will never get grilled about why they voted for their candidate, but when you look at a minority, they don't ask who they voted for, because they have already assumed they voted for the "other" guy. Ask, it might just surprise you.

Surprisingly ( to you I am sure) I agree with a lot of what you just said. With the exception of white people are on Welfare also look at your fellow man. All men are my fellow man not just white people. That is kinda racist you think ?

As for me thinking the only Illegals are Latinos. Of course not but they are the large majority and that is who Obama targeted with the dream act. You said that yourself.

No whites don't get grilled for voting for Romney because we don't very openly support him because he is white as many blacks do for Obama. You can't deny it's a theme.

I do not want to hear free stuff. I want to hear what exactly is it that Dems have done for Black and Hispanics"specifically" and no one can tell me. The only one concrete answer I have gotten is the dream act.

The problem I have is not with Blacks as you assert, but with a whole culture of Govt handouts. Too many people sitting at home getting a check. * million Illegals in this country working and 12 million Americans not. Too many rich people getting FEMA flood insurance to build houses at the beach, too many cooperate farmers getting huge crop subside checks when the free market should determine the price of food. I have a problem with a Debt that has grown by Trillions , I have a problem with a Military that should be used to defend our country being spread all over the world, I have a problem with the fact that I bust my #### everyday and over 50% of what I make goes to the govt, and the lady in front of me buys lottery tickets with her EBT card.

I am glad you don't know anyone of your race who is not into work, school and your right a majority of Minorities are not lazy etc. Maybe it's because you do lead a life of personal reputability that you are out of touch. Come do a tour of duty in Central Ga. I bet you would change your mind.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

I was typing it out when you responded damn you

Lol I enjoyed that Peace