"They smoked us"

[Harpa Timsah 13,258]

I did answer yours. So did others. Countless times. It wasn't what you wanted to hear, but it was an answer.

I'll answer the question for you. He was a sh*tty candidate that didn't stand a chance. And you bought into it simply because he was not Obama. You actually expected him to win. His party actually expected him to win. Despite the evidence to the contrary, you and others were convinced it was going to happen. And it didn't. And now that it didn't, instead of blaming the party that got crushed, you're blaming the party that was victorious. Even top Republicans have come out and said they needed to take a deep look into their party and their stance on important issues because they are LOSING. They lost in 2008, they lost this year, and guess what? To save you some heartache, I'll let you know that they'll lose in 2016 if they keep up the way they're going.

Their ideas are outdated and cater to an America that simply does not exist anymore. Their rich, white, male base is BECOMING the minority. They are losing the women, the immigrants, the youth, the hispanics, the blacks. They are losing ALL of them. Every election, fewer and fewer. While these minorities are growing, they are flocking to the Democrats. Your party needs to figure out why and do something about it otherwise you'll be angry for many years to come.

Their anti-fact bubble has burst. Welcome to the world the rest of us reside in. Change with your country or be left behind. Your choice.

Evylin, republicans aren't rich. They like to think they are.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Evylin, republicans aren't rich. They like to think they are.

They like to think a lot of things.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Since you've dated blacks, latinas and currently is married to an asian, why didn't you ask these fine folks what could possibly attract them to vote for President Obama.

Well my wife my be pissed if I called my Ex's and asked them political opinions. However at the present time the Obama supporters on this board have told me that minorities support Obama because he on thier side but no one can tell me what he has done or what Pubs have bot done to benefit minorities.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Well my wife my be pissed if I called my Ex's and asked them political opinions. However at the present time the Obama supporters on this board have told me that minorities support Obama because he on thier side but no one can tell me what he has done or what Pubs have bot done to benefit minorities.

Do you honestly think both parties speak of minorities with the same respect?

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

They said they voted because Obama made the storm better. The American electorate is politically illiterate for the most part. The reasons they really chose who they do is so embarrassing they have to make stuff up for the exit polls.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

I don't need you to answer anything. I know the answer already. Your reaction, and the reaction of your party, is all the answer anyone needs.

It isn't even Romney's fault. It's his party's fault. And until you see that, and until THEY see that (some already have) .. then nothing changes. And no candidate will ever be good enough.

If your saying the Pubs need to change to match the Dems and they will get more votes then your pro bally right. I keep telling you the Pubs are not my party. I am about freedom I despise those rape idiots as much as you do.

I just want someone to tell me what Obama has done "action" for Blacks and Hispanics. So far I have dream act/Amnesty and that is all.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Do you honestly think both parties speak of minorities with the same respect?

Once again "speak" is the same as talk is cheap. What has Obama specifically done for Blacks and Latinos ? I am not going to let you guys diverge me from the topic but we have already done the post all the racist Biden, Jackson, Clinton, Byrd comments game.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

If your saying the Pubs need to change to match the Dems and they will get more votes then your pro bally right. I keep telling you the Pubs are not my party. I am about freedom I despise those rape idiots as much as you do.

I just want someone to tell me what Obama has done "action" for Blacks and Hispanics. So far I have dream act/Amnesty and that is all.

I don't think they need to match the Democrats at all. Having two similar parties kind of defeats the purpose of a party system, no? I simply said their ideas are outdated and cater to an America that no longer exists. And they refuse to admit it. Hopefully this "shocking" loss will wake some people up to what most people already knew - they're out of touch and don't stand a chance until they fix themselves.

Once again "speak" is the same as talk is cheap. What has Obama specifically done for Blacks and Latinos ? I am not going to let you guys diverge me from the topic but we have already done the post all the racist Biden, Jackson, Clinton, Byrd comments game.

Nobody's trying to diverge you from any topic. The topic is minorities and the parties they choose, is it not? You're just simply not getting the answer you want to hear because nobody's interested in bullsh*tting you.

If you think that minorities have equal opportunities with both parties, then there's nothing I can say to change your mind. The bubble hasn't burst for you, perhaps.

Edited November 10, 2012 by Evylin

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

I don't think they need to match the Democrats at all. Having two similar parties kind of defeats the purpose of a party system, no? I simply said their ideas are outdated and cater to an America that no longer exists. And they refuse to admit it. Hopefully this "shocking" loss will wake some people up to what most people already knew - they're out of touch and don't stand a chance until they fix themselves.

Nobody's trying to diverge you from any topic. The topic is minorities and the parties they choose, is it not? You're just simply not getting the answer you want to hear because nobody's interested in bullsh*tting you.

So you admit you can't name 1 specific thing Obama has done for Blacks and Latinos, other than granting temporary amnesty to 800,000 or so illegals ?

[Penny Lane 8,159]

So you admit you can't name 1 specific thing Obama has done for Blacks and Latinos, other than granting temporary amnesty to 800,000 or so illegals ?

Nope, I can't. Blacks and latinos only voted for Obama because of that. Just ignore that they voted for Obama before he did that. And they voted for Democrats before they ever heard of Obama. Also ignore that women flocked to Obama as well, and generally support Democrats. Ignore that the white male vote did not show up for Romney for reasons you can't explain.

What ever makes this loss easier to take, I'll support you.

[Ban Hammer 13,594]

So you admit you can't name 1 specific thing Obama has done for Blacks and Latinos, other than granting temporary amnesty to 800,000 or so illegals ?

well he's raised their unemployment rates since he took over, but no one wants to point that out.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

well he's raised their unemployment rates since he took over, but no one wants to point that out.

He is feeding a lot more of them on food stamps, and there were those 'Bama Bucks. I never heard whether or not they got many of those passed out.

[mrsjohnsonscat 7]

Well I am glad you know what I think.

I will ask again. Tell me specifically what Obama as done for Blacks and Hispanics. Give me specific details. You keep saying you and the Obama supporters have, but I have been given only 1 answer. That answer was teh dream act. The rest of the answers did not give 1 specification . All we have gotten so far is basically "He cares about us and is inclusive". Surely you can come up with three actions ?

I will be glad to start answering your questions when you either admit you don't know it's all based on feelings or you give me specifics. You guys are experts at diverting the conversation when the truth is unavoidable. It follows a pattern, call some one racist, accuse anyone that disagrees with you as out of touch and in line with racist white men. Once again I do not blame Obama for Romney losing, that is only Romney and the Voters fault.

You've been given this answer many times or versions of it, yet you won't have it. People vote for a variety of reasons, some of it logical, some of it emotional; either way it's all valid. You keep asking for some special treat he gave to Blacks and Latinos to explain their support for him, why should there be? A rising tide lifts all boats...

If you believe in his support of education, unions, equal pay for women, then as a black and Latino that specifically helps you, it also helps other groups.

1. Too many Black and Latino households are single parent with women, it benefits them to have equal pay. That is benefit to them and to all women.

2. A big reason why unemployment is so bad in Black and Latino communities is because too many of them only have high school diplomas or less and we know that you have/had a better chance in finding work and keeping your job in this economy, with a higher level of education. So if you're Black or Latino, Obama's plans for education will benefit you and everyone else.

3. Historically, the jobs that offered Blacks and Latinos the most opportunities have been in the public sector or UNIONS. Postal workers, Sanitation, Transit, teachers, social workers, Law Enforcement and many dirty jobs that most people don't want. So if you're a Black and Latino, Obama's support for Unions, benefits you and other union members.

Now if you're asking for some piece of policy that says, "this is for you Black and Latino and no one else", i don't think you're going to find it. Obama has been pretty consistent with his "I'm the President of everyone" declarations. Is the Dream Act only for Latinos or does it apply to all 'illegals'?

One more thing: What Obama really did specifically was not be a Republican, it really is that simple. Unfortunately the Republican party has alienated entire populations to the extent that they will, in vast numbers not vote for them in national elections. That's it, there's no magic bullet, no secret sauce; if you piss off enough people long enough, they will vote for the other guy; regardless of what he does specifically.

Historically it used to primarily be the black vote the Republicans couldn't get, but now it has expanded to other groups... the fundamental truth is the Republican brand is poisoned for huge groups of people and Obama doesn't have to do anything specifically, except not be a Republican (with all they stand for) in order to get those groups to support him and his party in large numbers. This state of affairs is only going to get worst for the Republicans as the demographics continue to shift.

Not to say Obama doesn't have a policy; I am saying it doesn't matter. Until the Republicans figure out a way to attract a more diverse group of people, this pattern will continue, regardless of what the next Democrat does specifically or not. The problem lies within the Republican party, not the populations they can't seem to attract.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

He is feeding a lot more of them on food stamps, and there were those 'Bama Bucks. I never heard whether or not they got many of those passed out.

How come I never get any of this good stuff?

[Penny Lane 8,159]

He is feeding a lot more of them on food stamps, and there were those 'Bama Bucks. I never heard whether or not they got many of those passed out.

Most people who benefit from food stamps or government assistance live in red states.