Obama re-election results in 22 layoffs (and it's only Nov 8)

[Ban Hammer 13,568]

Yes, someone is paying for it. Someone is always paying. There's no free lunch, we all know that. But it's not the federal government. Hence, this is a bad example for programs to eliminate in an effort to reduce the deficit.

so care to take a crack at why health care is even with defense?

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

so care to take a crack at why health care is even with defense?

Well, both are too expensive. It's the wrong question to ask, though. The right question to ask is why our defense spending roughly equals that of the rest of planet? Our health care spending sure doesn't.

[kytwell 179]

Not a military person, but have co-workers who are. Not sure how big of a number this constitutes overall, but one area that seems as if it is filled with waste is the per diems for food and housing. When the reservists go to do something in another state. They get a food and housing per diem. Now I don't know about other people, but when I go to work each day, I pack my own lunch; my work doesn't reimburse me for it. Same with when I go to a conference out of state, work makes the travel arrangements and pays for the hotel room. It doesn't give each of us money and say here. SO what happens and this is just based on what they tell me, is that they all pool together their money to rent a house or apt together which costs much less than what the per diem is and then "pocket" the leftover. Yes it seems like a good idea and I would do the same thing if I could get free money, but belts need to be tightened and this may only be a small amount of the overall number, but every little bit counts.

Edited November 9, 2012 by kytwell

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Not a military person, but have co-workers who are. Not sure how big of a number this constitutes overall, but one area that seems as if it is filled with waste is the per diems for food and housing. When the reservists go to do something in another state. They get a food and housing per diem. Now I don't know about other people, but when I go to work each day, I pack my own lunch; my work doesn't reimburse me for it. Same with when I go to a conference out of state, work makes the travel arrangements and pays for the hotel room. It doesn't give each of us money and say here. SO what happens and this is just based on what they tell me, is that they all pool together their money to rent a house or apt together which costs much less than what the per diem is and then "pocket" the leftover. Yes it seems like a good idea and I would do the same thing if I could get free money, but belts need to be tightened and this may only be a small amount of the overall number, but every little bit counts.

We get daily allowances for meals when traveling for the firm. Those allowances have been trimmed significantly over the last few years - to the tune of about half of what they used to be. I think that employers do owe for meal allowances when sending staff out of town because when away from home, I don't have much of a choice but to eat out. That's arguably more expensive than eating in and since I am away from home not for fun but for work, I don't think that I should have to pay for it. Same goes for public employees which includes the military.

That said, we all know that there must be significant savings potential in a defense budget that is almost as large as all defense budgets of all other nations on this planet combined. It is insane to spend that much money on defense. It's absolutely insane.

[Danno 1,228]

Reagan Phones (yes, this program actually dates back 1984) cost the federal government zippo. Get rid of them and the federal government will have saved exactly $0.00. You could name thousands of such programs and it would still have no effect on the federal deficit at all.

I noticed you used two words...

1 phones (not cell phones). There was a Lib program he went along with which applied to land line phones under the idea "How can poor people get and keep a job without a phone".

-They now have phones and they still ain't workin, in fact Obama kinda grew that demographic.

2. Cost. Yep you are right, the Gov does not pay for this, we do on each and every phone bill.

Lets be a little more honest on details in the future, Obama is back in the WH for 4 more years.... you can afford to be a little honesty.... for a while.

Edited November 9, 2012 by Danno

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I noticed you used two words...

1 phones (not cell phones). There was a Lib program he went along with which applied to land line phones under the idea "How can poor people get and keep a job without a phone".

-They now have phones and they still ain't workin, in fact Obama kinda grew that demographic.

2. Cost. Yep you are right, the Gov does not pay for this, we do on each and every phone bill.

Lets be a little more honest on details in the future, Obama is back in the WH for 4 more years.... you can afford to be a little honesty.... for a while.

I give credit where credit is due. The free phones came about when The Gipper sat in the White House. He created them. Or shall I say "He built it"?

[Ban Hammer 13,568]

Well, both are too expensive. It's the wrong question to ask, though. The right question to ask is why our defense spending roughly equals that of the rest of planet? Our health care spending sure doesn't.

you might take a look at all the defense treaties the us has all over the world. i suggest we review those, cancel those that are no longer valid, and then consider what defense forces we need to meet our treaty obligations.

[Ban Hammer 13,568]

Not a military person, but have co-workers who are. Not sure how big of a number this constitutes overall, but one area that seems as if it is filled with waste is the per diems for food and housing. When the reservists go to do something in another state. They get a food and housing per diem. Now I don't know about other people, but when I go to work each day, I pack my own lunch; my work doesn't reimburse me for it. Same with when I go to a conference out of state, work makes the travel arrangements and pays for the hotel room. It doesn't give each of us money and say here. SO what happens and this is just based on what they tell me, is that they all pool together their money to rent a house or apt together which costs much less than what the per diem is and then "pocket" the leftover. Yes it seems like a good idea and I would do the same thing if I could get free money, but belts need to be tightened and this may only be a small amount of the overall number, but every little bit counts.

food and housing are covered by the military for a reason - by making sure they are fed and housed, they can be a more effective fighting force. it's all part of the contract the military has with the servicemember.

otherwise, it would suck to be deployed to some country and be told "go buy your own food" and you're miles from anywhere, and the military wouldn't need tents anymore either

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

you might take a look at all the defense treaties the us has all over the world. i suggest we review those, cancel those that are no longer valid, and then consider what defense forces we need to meet our treaty obligations.

Absolutely. There is a lot of expenditure that may have been required at some point in time but the fact of the matter is that we neither need to spend more money on defense than the rest of the world combined nor can we afford it.

[Ban Hammer 13,568]

Absolutely. There is a lot of expenditure that may have been required at some point in time but the fact of the matter is that we neither need to spend more money on defense than the rest of the world combined nor can we afford it.

thing is, we may have a good military, but we are not the largest. what we cannot make up for in numbers we have to make up for in technology - and yes, that costs.

[Danno 1,228]

Apparently a lot of peeps are loosing their job thanks to the Obama "victory".

• Energizer -

The St. Louis-based company said Thursday that it expects to shed about 1,500 employees. When finished, the restructuring should lead to $200 million in pretax yearly savings, Energizer said. It aims to have most of its restructuring steps finished by the end of September 2014.

• Exide Technologies -

Exide Technologies announced Thursday that it will be idling its lead-recycling operations in Laureldale and laying off 150 workers, effective no later than March 31.

• Westinghouse -

Westinghouse Anniston, the contractor responsible for shutting down Anniston’s chemical weapons incinerator, has reduced its workforce by another 50 employees.

• Research in Motion Limited -

Research in Motion Ltd., the maker of BlackBerry smartphones, laid off about 200 people at its U.S. headquarters in Irving on Wednesday, according to a source close to the company who did not want to be named.

• Lightyear Network Solutions -

More than one dozen employees at a Pikeville company lost their jobs this week. Officials with Lightyear Network Solutions said they are consolidating offices in Louisville and Pikeville to save money.

• Providence Journal -

The Providence Journal Co. laid off 23 full-time workers Wednesday as part of a cost-cutting effort, including 16 members of the Providence Newspaper Guild and 7 non-union employees.

• Hawker Beechcraft -

The company says 240 employees will lose their jobs with the closing of Hawker Beechcraft Services facilities in Little Rock, Ark.; Mesa, Ariz.; and San Antonio, Texas.

• Boeing (30% of their management staff) -

Boeing Co. said Wednesday it plans to employ 30% fewer executives at its Boeing Defense, Space & Security unit by the end of 2012 compared to 2010 levels.

• CVPH Medical Center -

CVPH Medical Center has handed pink slips to 17 employees. The layoffs — nine in management and eight hourly staffers — are part of an effort to “help bolster the hospital’s financial position in 2013 and beyond,” a press release said.

• US Cellular -

The move will result in 980 job cuts at U.S. Cellular, with 640 in the Chicago area, according to a spokeswoman. The cuts are slightly under 12 percent of the approximately 8,400 total employees U.S. Cellular had at the end of the third quarter.

• Momentive Performance Materials -

About 150 workers at Sistersville’s Momentive Performance Materials plant will be temporarily laid off later this month, officials said this week.

• Rocketdyne -

About 100 employees at Pratt & Whitney Rocketdyne, most of whom work in the San Fernando Valley, were laid off Wednesday in response to dwindling government spending on space exploration, the company said. The layoffs were effective immediately, and 75 percent of them came at the facilities on Canoga and De Soto avenues, which employ about 1,100 people. The company has six sites across the Valley.

• Brake Parts -

The leader of an automotive parts plant in Lincoln County has told state officials that there are plans to lay off 75 workers starting in late December…The layoffs are expected to start Dec. 28 and continue in the first quarter of 2013

• Vestas Wind Systems -

Vestas Wind Systems A/S (VWS) is seeking to sell a stake of as much as 20 percent and said it’s reducing headcount by 3,000 to raise the staff cuts by the biggest wind turbine maker to almost a third over two years.

• Husqvarna -

Husqvarna AB (HUSQB), the world’s biggest maker of powered garden tools, plans to cut about 600 jobs in a move that will save 220 million kronor ($33 million) a year by 2014.

• Center for Hospice New York -

The Center for Hospice and Palliative Care plans to temporarily lay off as many as 40 employees next year as it embarks on a major renovation of the inpatient unit at its Cheektowaga campus.

• Bristol-Meyers -

Bristol-Myers Squibb is following up its lackluster third-quarter results with almost 480 layoffs. As Pharmalot reports, the company notified the New Jersey government that it would scale back in Plainsboro, which means the cuts will hit its sales operations.

• OCE North America -

Trumbull printer- and scanning-equipment provider Oce North America, Inc. will lay off 135 workers in three Connecticut communities, including East Hartford, according to its notice with the state Labor Department.

• Darden Restaurants -

The company, which was among those who had received an Obamacare waiver in the past, is looking to limit workers to 28 hours per week. A full time employee that is required to have health insurance (lest the employer pay a fine) works 30 hours per week, as defined by the Obamacare law.

• West Ridge Mine -

In its statement, UtahAmerican Energy blames the Obama administration for instituting policies that will close down “204 American coal-fired power plants by 2014″ and for drastically reducing the market for coal.

• United Blood Services Gulf -

United Blood Services Gulf South region, the non-profit blood service provider for much of south Louisiana and Mississippi, will lay off approximately 10 percent of its workforce. It was a hard decision to make according to Susan Begnaud, Regional Center Director for the Gulf South region.

A layoff is tough enough for employees to deal with, imagine hearing the crushing news that your office is shutting down just before Thanksgiving and Christmas… Here are some of the business closings that were announced in just the past two days:

Caterpillar Inc. will close its plant in Owatonna Minn.

Mount Pleasant’s Albrecht Sentry Foods

The Target store at Manassas Mall Va.

Millennium Academy in Wake Forest NC

Target Closing Kissimmee FL Location

The Andover Gift Shop in Andover MA

Grand Union Family Markets Closing Storrs Location CT

Movie Scene Milford Location NH

Update: TE Connectivity Closing Greensboro Plant – 620 Layoffs Expected

Gomer’s Fried Chicken in South Kansas City

Kmart in Homer Glen

Fresh Market on Pine Street in Burlington

AGC Glass North America to permanently close its Blue Ridge Plant in Kingsport Tenn.

The Target store at Platte and Academy in Colorado Springs

The Roses store on Reynold Road in Winston-Salem NC

Meanders Kitchen losing its West Seattle location at 6032 California Ave

Bost Harley-Davidson at 46th Avenue North and Delaware Ave. in West Nashville TN

Townsend Booksellers in Oakland

The Kmart store in Parkway Plaza off University Drive in Durham NC – 79 Jobs Lost

To see even more companies that announced layoffs since the election, visit the Daily Job Cuts page.

[sly_wolf 199]

Apparently a lot of peeps are loosing their job thanks to the Obama "victory".

• Energizer -

The St. Louis-based company said Thursday that it expects to shed about 1,500 employees. When finished, the restructuring should lead to $200 million in pretax yearly savings, Energizer said. It aims to have most of its restructuring steps finished by the end of September 2014.

• Exide Technologies -

Exide Technologies announced Thursday that it will be idling its lead-recycling operations in Laureldale and laying off 150 workers, effective no later than March 31.

• Westinghouse -

Westinghouse Anniston, the contractor responsible for shutting down Anniston's chemical weapons incinerator, has reduced its workforce by another 50 employees.

• Research in Motion Limited -

Research in Motion Ltd., the maker of BlackBerry smartphones, laid off about 200 people at its U.S. headquarters in Irving on Wednesday, according to a source close to the company who did not want to be named.

• Lightyear Network Solutions -

More than one dozen employees at a Pikeville company lost their jobs this week. Officials with Lightyear Network Solutions said they are consolidating offices in Louisville and Pikeville to save money.

• Providence Journal -

The Providence Journal Co. laid off 23 full-time workers Wednesday as part of a cost-cutting effort, including 16 members of the Providence Newspaper Guild and 7 non-union employees.

• Hawker Beechcraft -

The company says 240 employees will lose their jobs with the closing of Hawker Beechcraft Services facilities in Little Rock, Ark.; Mesa, Ariz.; and San Antonio, Texas.

• Boeing (30% of their management staff) -

Boeing Co. said Wednesday it plans to employ 30% fewer executives at its Boeing Defense, Space & Security unit by the end of 2012 compared to 2010 levels.

• CVPH Medical Center -

CVPH Medical Center has handed pink slips to 17 employees. The layoffs — nine in management and eight hourly staffers — are part of an effort to "help bolster the hospital's financial position in 2013 and beyond," a press release said.

• US Cellular -

The move will result in 980 job cuts at U.S. Cellular, with 640 in the Chicago area, according to a spokeswoman. The cuts are slightly under 12 percent of the approximately 8,400 total employees U.S. Cellular had at the end of the third quarter.

• Momentive Performance Materials -

About 150 workers at Sistersville's Momentive Performance Materials plant will be temporarily laid off later this month, officials said this week.

• Rocketdyne -

About 100 employees at Pratt & Whitney Rocketdyne, most of whom work in the San Fernando Valley, were laid off Wednesday in response to dwindling government spending on space exploration, the company said. The layoffs were effective immediately, and 75 percent of them came at the facilities on Canoga and De Soto avenues, which employ about 1,100 people. The company has six sites across the Valley.

• Brake Parts -

The leader of an automotive parts plant in Lincoln County has told state officials that there are plans to lay off 75 workers starting in late December…The layoffs are expected to start Dec. 28 and continue in the first quarter of 2013

• Vestas Wind Systems -

Vestas Wind Systems A/S (VWS) is seeking to sell a stake of as much as 20 percent and said it's reducing headcount by 3,000 to raise the staff cuts by the biggest wind turbine maker to almost a third over two years.

• Husqvarna -

Husqvarna AB (HUSQB), the world's biggest maker of powered garden tools, plans to cut about 600 jobs in a move that will save 220 million kronor ($33 million) a year by 2014.

• Center for Hospice New York -

The Center for Hospice and Palliative Care plans to temporarily lay off as many as 40 employees next year as it embarks on a major renovation of the inpatient unit at its Cheektowaga campus.

• Bristol-Meyers -

Bristol-Myers Squibb is following up its lackluster third-quarter results with almost 480 layoffs. As Pharmalot reports, the company notified the New Jersey government that it would scale back in Plainsboro, which means the cuts will hit its sales operations.

• OCE North America -

Trumbull printer- and scanning-equipment provider Oce North America, Inc. will lay off 135 workers in three Connecticut communities, including East Hartford, according to its notice with the state Labor Department.

• Darden Restaurants -

The company, which was among those who had received an Obamacare waiver in the past, is looking to limit workers to 28 hours per week. A full time employee that is required to have health insurance (lest the employer pay a fine) works 30 hours per week, as defined by the Obamacare law.

• West Ridge Mine -

In its statement, UtahAmerican Energy blames the Obama administration for instituting policies that will close down "204 American coal-fired power plants by 2014″ and for drastically reducing the market for coal.

• United Blood Services Gulf -

United Blood Services Gulf South region, the non-profit blood service provider for much of south Louisiana and Mississippi, will lay off approximately 10 percent of its workforce. It was a hard decision to make according to Susan Begnaud, Regional Center Director for the Gulf South region.

A layoff is tough enough for employees to deal with, imagine hearing the crushing news that your office is shutting down just before Thanksgiving and Christmas… Here are some of the business closings that were announced in just the past two days:

Caterpillar Inc. will close its plant in Owatonna Minn.

Mount Pleasant's Albrecht Sentry Foods

The Target store at Manassas Mall Va.

Millennium Academy in Wake Forest NC

Target Closing Kissimmee FL Location

The Andover Gift Shop in Andover MA

Grand Union Family Markets Closing Storrs Location CT

Movie Scene Milford Location NH

Update: TE Connectivity Closing Greensboro Plant – 620 Layoffs Expected

Gomer's Fried Chicken in South Kansas City

Kmart in Homer Glen

Fresh Market on Pine Street in Burlington

AGC Glass North America to permanently close its Blue Ridge Plant in Kingsport Tenn.

The Target store at Platte and Academy in Colorado Springs

The Roses store on Reynold Road in Winston-Salem NC

Meanders Kitchen losing its West Seattle location at 6032 California Ave

Bost Harley-Davidson at 46th Avenue North and Delaware Ave. in West Nashville TN

Townsend Booksellers in Oakland

The Kmart store in Parkway Plaza off University Drive in Durham NC – 79 Jobs Lost

To see even more companies that announced layoffs since the election, visit the Daily Job Cuts page.

Really! There was also an earthquake in guatemala after the election and I also farted a number of times. That must of been Obama's fault too.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

The stock market thinks the election results suck as well, down 2.5% for the week.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

thing is, we may have a good military, but we are not the largest. what we cannot make up for in numbers we have to make up for in technology - and yes, that costs.

I know. Especially when we pour hundreds of billions of dollars into technology that don't work. What was that fighter jet that I wouldn't want to use as a passenger plane?

Edited November 10, 2012 by Mr. Big Dog

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

I have no problem cutting about 90% of the military budget. I prefer secret wars that finance themselves.