Sole custody of child

[ToddT 1]

An acquaintance recently had to give the local Amphur a large gift and also pay the father a large sum for him to sign the papers in order for his wife to get custody and immigrate with the children. They actually paid a mediator to negotiate the appropriate gifts and payoffs before meeting at the Amphur office. Also, it was a gift to the Amphur not a bribe. Had they tried to bribe the Amphur they would have failed or possibly had to gift something much more expensive.

[Karee 4,190]

An acquaintance recently had to give the local Amphur a large gift and also pay the father a large sum for him to sign the papers in order for his wife to get custody and immigrate with the children. They actually paid a mediator to negotiate the appropriate gifts and payoffs before meeting at the Amphur office. Also, it was a gift to the Amphur not a bribe. Had they tried to bribe the Amphur they would have failed or possibly had to gift something much more expensive.

What's the difference between a large gift and a bribe? One has an expected outcome, and the other does not?

[ToddT 1]

Maybe it's face.. I don't know but they couldn't call it a bribe in any way shape or form where it might get back to the Amphur.

[Ning 619]

What's the difference between a large gift and a bribe? One has an expected outcome, and the other does not?

A gift can sit on top of the table. The bribe shouldnt. Expected outcome? More of the same as the word spreads.

[Ning 619]

An acquaintance recently had to give the local Amphur a large gift and also pay the father a large sum for him to sign the papers in order for his wife to get custody and immigrate with the children. They actually paid a mediator to negotiate the appropriate gifts and payoffs before meeting at the Amphur office. Also, it was a gift to the Amphur not a bribe. Had they tried to bribe the Amphur they would have failed or possibly had to gift something much more expensive.

The " gift " was given to obtain what? The father was paid to sign court papers? What exactly did the father sign?

Everyone involved knows the Amphur accepted a bribe. The way this was done simply causes the people there to have to share the " gift ". Your friend will be lucky if no one there makes a phone call which will result in another trip to the gift store of as its commonly known; the bank.

What is important here is the value of the documents when they are presented to the embassy. These letters from an Amphur have been rejected in at least two cases that I know of. The embassy demands a letter signed by the bio father that follows the criteria contained in the sample letter they produced. This letter has to be translated to English. The bio father signs both versions. In some cases, if there is any question about the way the signatures occured, the father will be required to come in to be interviewed.

There have been a few cases where a Thai court order of custoday was accepted in place of the bio fathers signature.

[Karee 4,190]

There have been a few cases where a Thai court order of custoday was accepted in place of the bio fathers signature.

Personally, I think that is the best way.

[ToddT 1]

They're all here already - this happened about 7 years ago.

[rin and john 71]

When Rin went to the amphur, he said it was too late in the day to give her the custody letter and if he did it he'd miss his bus and have to take a taxi. "Taxi fare" was 500 baht to get him to do the letter. Same when she went to get the children's passports. Lots of excuses, but by buying some piece of ####### memorabilia honoring the King for a few hundred baht, the wheels were greased. Prior to that, birth certificates took an extra 100 baht.

Edited February 9, 2013 by rin and john

[Karee 4,190]

When Rin went to the amphur, he said it was too late in the day to give her the custody letter and if he did it he'd miss his bus and have to take a taxi. "Taxi fare" was 500 baht to get him to do the letter. Same when she went to get the children's passports. Lots of excuses, but by buying some piece of ####### memorabilia honoring the King for a few hundred baht, the wheels were greased. Prior to that, birth certificates took an extra 100 baht.

:rofl:

Gotta love Thailand!

[rin and john 71]

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:rofl:

Gotta love Thailand!

It's good she did it by herself. If I would have gone with her I am sure the "farang" price would have been many multiples of what she paid.

[Ning 619]

They're all here already - this happened about 7 years ago.

Recent to you is 7 years ago? What people are searching for is current info that would help them in their case. Many things have changed over 7 years including the procedure to obtain a visa for a child which is what this is supposed be about.