The "Dream Act" paid off for Obama in a big way

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Another example of misogynistic humour, how quaintly old fashioned. Noted that the actual serious question as to whether European cultures have 'indulged' in superstitious, unhygienic and downright dangerous practices either in the past or in the present day has been completely ignored. How unutterably suprising.

Meanwhile back in the real world we can talk about hospitals, NASA, universities, the banking system, the stock market, modern medicine, inventions, rapid travel, mass transit, nuclear submarines, jet aircraft, modern communication starting with the Morse Code, high rises, expansion bridges, television, the internet, computers, radar, weaponry, democracy, judicial system, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc....

That might account for the millions of illegal immigrants migrating to the West.

Edited November 11, 2012 by Bad_Daddy

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

It's not all black and white. There's are a lot of shades of grey in between and that is where the solution typically lies.

What shade of Gray is in between either you are here legally or you are not ?

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

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Great countries evolve. Sorry you're not on board with that. You're welcome to leave.

Rome wa once great it evolved didn't it Greece also. Etc

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

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In fact, I think a historical quiz of quirky practices is in order.

Question one

In which 'culture' and century was it common place for Doctors to induce orgasm in women to cure feminine hysteria?

Don't know what was wrong with that. We still do that today only we don't use doctors. They were on to something

[Peikko 1,575]

Meanwhile back in the real world we can talk about hospitals, NASA, universities, the banking system, the stock market, modern medicine, inventions, rapid travel, mass transit, nuclear submarines, jet aircraft, modern communication starting with the Morse Code, high rises, expansion bridges, television, the internet, computers, radar, weaponry, democracy, judicial system, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc....

That might account for the millions of illegal immigrants migrating to the West.

You can talk about whatever you like, but can you provide some relevance to this thread? This list, what is it meant to represent? A quick reminder, you were trying to suggest that there is a difference between the 'European' brain and the brain of other ethnic groups - a very dodgy route to go down altogether but that appears to be where you wish to go, is it?

[Peikko 1,575]

Don't know what was wrong with that. We still do that today only we don't use doctors. They were on to something

Either you really are a horrible misogynist who sincerely believes that there is a clinical condition called feminine hysteria that can be cured by rape (there was nothing sexual about the original 'cure', just so you know) or you genuinely think there is some humour to be found in perpetuating this pathetic joke. Either way continuing on this path doesn't really reflect terribly well on you as a human being.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

What shade of Gray is in between either you are here legally or you are not?

I'd say a young person that was brought here at a very young age and doesn't know any home country but this one is living in a shade of grey.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Either you really are a horrible misogynist who sincerely believes that there is a clinical condition called feminine hysteria that can be cured by rape (there was nothing sexual about the original 'cure', just so you know) or you genuinely think there is some humour to be found in perpetuating this pathetic joke. Either way continuing on this path doesn't really reflect terribly well on you as a human being.

Speaking of Hysteria...Geesh who said anything about rape... Good dear lord lord the moon bats have gotten sideways in here. Where did rape come from.

The original cure was orgasm induced by doctor. It lead to the invention of the vibrator because so many women were flocking to the doctor they could not keep up and had to farm a lot of it out to mid wives.

No I don't believe there is a thing called Feminine Hysteria, but I do believe that sometime when a woman or man for that matter is not getting enough attention they can get pissy. Sex sure puts me in a much better mood, how about you ?

As for if am a misogynist or whatever. yes I am a pig and enjoy life as such. I also treat women with respect and dignity, but I never forget they are women. If a man does not look at a hot woman and like what he sees then he is gay. I am able to compartmentalize. Higher brain animals can do that.

Also Men and Women are different.. How about that ..

[Rebecca Jo 1,962]

Just about every Hispanic that I know that was either born here, or is here legally, feels the same way as bolded above.

But many who were born here were born to a mother who entered illegally....................

Just saying.

[Rebecca Jo 1,962]

I dislike the high-horse attitude of immigrants who were able to arrive in the US legally looking down on their illegal entrant counterparts. It's equally unattractive behavior, IMO, on the part of USC sponsors.

Why?

Because it's pretty freaking hard to get into this country. Somebody who got here legally was just lucky. Lucky they met a certain criteria - whether it be having a highly-specialized skill, or winning the DV lottery, or being married to an American.

Since it is so hard to get here, I think it's unkind to look down upon those who just want to come here and make a living. Especially if they desperately need to make that living to feed their family. There's a member here on VJ who is rather prolific who has written (more than once) that he would do whatever it took to feed his family. What would you do if you were in poverty across the border, and life or death for your family literally meant crossing a border?

I'm not advocating criminal activity. I'm just saying look at the big picture. If these migrants could access our system independently with some sort of work visa, (in other words if they could come over without a business sponsor) then I would fault them for scamming the system. But there is no such path for them.

That's just my two cents.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

I dislike the high-horse attitude of immigrants who were able to arrive in the US legally looking down on their illegal entrant counterparts. It's equally unattractive behavior, IMO, on the part of USC sponsors.

Why?

Because it's pretty freaking hard to get into this country. Somebody who got here legally was just lucky. Lucky they met a certain criteria - whether it be having a highly-specialized skill, or winning the DV lottery, or being married to an American.

Since it is so hard to get here, I think it's unkind to look down upon those who just want to come here and make a living. Especially if they desperately need to make that living to feed their family. There's a member here on VJ who is rather prolific who has written (more than once) that he would do whatever it took to feed his family. What would you do if you were in poverty across the border, and life or death for your family literally meant crossing a border?

I'm not advocating criminal activity. I'm just saying look at the big picture. If these migrants could access our system independently with some sort of work visa, (in other words if they could come over without a business sponsor) then I would fault them for scamming the system. But there is no such path for them.

That's just my two cents.

that is because we are broke. We are 15 million in debt. Our health care system is overburdened our Unemployment is over 8% and has been for a long time. We have many millions getting free food. We need to put our won people to work first. Take care of them and then take when it is all fixed take on the poor huddled masses. Back when most of our parents came over, American was wide open and in need of people to settle new places. Sorry but we are full now.. Yes it's hard to get here for a reason. Be legal or be gone.

I know that sounds harsh, but if your family does not have enough food, do you go feed the whole neighborhood and let your own starve to death.

If you want to make a better life work to make things better where you are.

[Karee 4,191]

I dislike the high-horse attitude of immigrants who were able to arrive in the US legally looking down on their illegal entrant counterparts. It's equally unattractive behavior, IMO, on the part of USC sponsors.

Why?

Because it's pretty freaking hard to get into this country. Somebody who got here legally was just lucky. Lucky they met a certain criteria - whether it be having a highly-specialized skill, or winning the DV lottery, or being married to an American.

Since it is so hard to get here, I think it's unkind to look down upon those who just want to come here and make a living. Especially if they desperately need to make that living to feed their family. There's a member here on VJ who is rather prolific who has written (more than once) that he would do whatever it took to feed his family. What would you do if you were in poverty across the border, and life or death for your family literally meant crossing a border?

I'm not advocating criminal activity. I'm just saying look at the big picture. If these migrants could access our system independently with some sort of work visa, (in other words if they could come over without a business sponsor) then I would fault them for scamming the system. But there is no such path for them.

That's just my two cents.

Is it ok to sell illegal drugs or break the law in other ways to feed your family? Is it fair to a child if their parent robs a bank and is locked up for breaking the law, and the child is left basically without a parent? Children suffer all the time for the actions of their parents. Should the children of criminals be given special treatment?

Bottom line, the parents broke the law. It is unfortunate that the child is affected for the illegal actions of their parents, but this happens in our society all the time, not just in issues related to immigration.

It is illegal (Misdemeanor) to enter this country without inspection according to the Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1965. I would suggest people that have a problem with this, lobby congress to have it changed.

[Obama 2012 1,714]

I dislike the high-horse attitude of immigrants who were able to arrive in the US legally looking down on their illegal entrant counterparts. It's equally unattractive behavior, IMO, on the part of USC sponsors.

Why?

Because it's pretty freaking hard to get into this country. Somebody who got here legally was just lucky. Lucky they met a certain criteria - whether it be having a highly-specialized skill, or winning the DV lottery, or being married to an American.

Since it is so hard to get here, I think it's unkind to look down upon those who just want to come here and make a living. Especially if they desperately need to make that living to feed their family. There's a member here on VJ who is rather prolific who has written (more than once) that he would do whatever it took to feed his family. What would you do if you were in poverty across the border, and life or death for your family literally meant crossing a border?

I'm not advocating criminal activity. I'm just saying look at the big picture. If these migrants could access our system independently with some sort of work visa, (in other words if they could come over without a business sponsor) then I would fault them for scamming the system. But there is no such path for them.

That's just my two cents.

The big picture - A lot of people crossing the border pay $7000 to do so to Coyotes. Money that could make a difference in their home country.

The big picture - MILLIONS of illegal immigrants who could make a difference in their home country, but instead run like cowards to the US and then choose to steal our services here from law abiding citizens.

I saw screw em. Every last one of them. Deport them, remove them from this country by ANY means necessary.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

The big picture - A lot of people crossing the border pay $7000 to do so to Coyotes. Money that could make a difference in their home country.

The big picture - MILLIONS of illegal immigrants who could make a difference in their home country, but instead run like cowards to the US and then choose to steal our services here from law abiding citizens.

I saw screw em. Every last one of them. Deport them, remove them from this country by ANY means necessary.

:thumbs: :thumbs:

[Peikko 1,575]

Speaking of Hysteria...Geesh who said anything about rape... Good dear lord lord the moon bats have gotten sideways in here. Where did rape come from.

The original cure was orgasm induced by doctor. It lead to the invention of the vibrator because so many women were flocking to the doctor they could not keep up and had to farm a lot of it out to mid wives.

No I don't believe there is a thing called Feminine Hysteria, but I do believe that sometime when a woman or man for that matter is not getting enough attention they can get pissy. Sex sure puts me in a much better mood, how about you ?

As for if am a misogynist or whatever. yes I am a pig and enjoy life as such. I also treat women with respect and dignity, but I never forget they are women. If a man does not look at a hot woman and like what he sees then he is gay. I am able to compartmentalize. Higher brain animals can do that.

Also Men and Women are different.. How about that ..

Making up your own stories and producing them as facts again? Quite the magician aren't you?