Black Panthers Now Poll Watchers

[Darnell 8,478]

ok? you'd have to check in with the shift supervisor for that approval, not me

[Danno 1,228]

At least they're brave enough not to hide behind silly pointy masks!

I guess in your mind the Nazi part was brave too, no masks, there.

[Danno 1,228]

Here is what I believe. You will have some people in the NBP that have more radical ideas than what they are supposed to be standing for. Here is the difference: Black Panther Party, Founded in Oakland, California by Huey Newton and Bobby Seale on October 15, 1966, the organization initially set forth a doctrine calling primarily for the protection of African-American neighborhoods from police brutality. The leaders of the organization espoused socialist and Marxist doctrines; however, the Party's early black nationalist reputation attracted a diverse membership. The Black Panther Party's objectives and philosophy expanded and evolved rapidly during the party's existence, making ideological consensus within the party difficult to achieve, and causing some prominent members to openly disagree with the views of the leaders.

KKK: Although there was no organizational structure above the local level, similar groups arose across the South adopted the same name and methods.[18] Klan groups spread throughout the South as an insurgent movement during the Reconstruction era in the United States. As a secret vigilante group, the Klan targeted freedmen and their allies; it sought to restore white supremacy by threats and violence, including murder, against black and white Republicans. In 1870 and 1871, the federal government passed the Force Acts, which were used to prosecute Klan crimes.[19] Prosecution of Klan crimes and enforcement of the Force Acts suppressed Klan activity. In 1874 and later, however, newly organized and openly active paramilitary organizations, such as the White League and the Red Shirts, started a fresh round of violence aimed at suppressing blacks' voting and running Republicans out of office. These contributed to segregationist white Democrats regaining political power in all the Southern states by 1877.

Do you see the difference? One group was created to protect black neighborhoods, the other was created to ensure white Supremency. And I agree that if it goes for one, it has to go for the other. He shouldn't be there if it's going to cause a disturbance, just like if the KKK showed up, they would be within their rights to be there, but it would be on like Donkey Kong.

I think you are comparing the wrong group.

The NEw Black Panther party has no connection to the Black panther party you are referring too, they simply have similar names.

New Black Panther Party

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

New Black Panther Party

The New Black Panther Party (NBPP), whose formal name is the New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense, is a U.S.-based black political organization founded in Dallas, Texas in 1989. Despite its name, NBPP is not an official successor to the Black Panther Party.[1] Members of the original Black Panther Party have insisted that the newer party is illegitimate and have firmly declared that "there is no new Black Panther Party".[1]

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

I'd pay big money to see that ceremony.

I think I will fly up to Philly and see how that works out for me. LOL

Watch the Video of the Not hate group people.

[Danno 1,228]

IN the same way as there are two distinct Black panther parties, the KKK is even more splintered.

So when steven compares them to the KKK, one would have to ask, what KKK they all go by different names and the KKK he attributes all the wrong to have been sued out of business.

Recap-

Todays KKK are exactly like the NBPP, both talk the ####### but neither has a habit of lynching people.

And even if you found one klan group that did there are dozens more that didn't. As far as I know these groups come about because they split from infighting.

WHats interesting to me is- We wouldn't let these folks volunteer to pick up trash for the "adopt a Hi way" program but being a poll watcher is fine.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

and only in America Liberal logic, could a member of a hate group in a para military uniform standing at a poll door, not be an obstacle to voting, but a picture ID could.

[Darnell 8,478]

really? whew ! glad i'm not a liberal, or I'd be in that group you just lumped together.

Yer a Lumper!

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

and only in America Liberal logic, could a member of a hate group in a para military uniform standing at a poll door, not be an obstacle to voting, but a picture ID could.

[Danno 1,228]

and only in America Liberal logic, could a member of a hate group in a para military uniform standing at a poll door, not be an obstacle to voting, but a picture ID could.

Ding Ding Ding, sir you get post of the day!

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

IN the same way as there are two distinct Black panther parties, the KKK is even more splintered.

So when steven compares them to the KKK, one would have to ask, what KKK they all go by different names and the KKK he attributes all the wrong to have been sued out of business.

Recap-

Todays KKK are exactly like the NBPP, both talk the ####### but neither has a habit of lynching people.

And even if you found one klan group that did there are dozens more that didn't. As far as I know these groups come about because they split from infighting.

WHats interesting to me is- We wouldn't let these folks volunteer to pick up trash for the "adopt a Hi way" program but being a poll watcher is fine.

Okay, here is what I was trying to say. The original Black Panther Party wasn't a hate group to begin with, they started out trying to do something positive in the time they were living in. The KKK were never about positive things, they came out of the gate killing and terrorizing people. Even the NBPP isn't on that level, and they have some idiots in their party.

Run,

What I was trying to point out is, if you are going to make points about these things, you should do them in the orignal context. If you wore Mitt Romney gear, no one would care because it's your choice but if you wore white power it would evoke a different response. Wrong is wrong, no matter how you change the spelling.

[justashooter 430]

The Black Panthers are not the same as the KKK. Not even close. That's laughable, but please continue with your right wing drivel.

you should meet the KKK before you condemn it. you should also learn about it's origin and history, rather than just knee-jerking in fear as you were taught to by people who gave you a free standing fear with no significant factual basis.

the klan was formed during the post civil war period in the southern states, which were under union controlled martial law and lacked civil government entirely for several years. in the subsequent reformation of civil government all individuals who served in any military or related capacity for the confederacy were entirely disenfranchised from the right to vote by enforcement of an "iron clad oath" policy that northern politicians pressed lincoln to sign into law in 1864. lincoln rightly refused, but the following union military government in the southern states enforced the policy for 9 years, anyway, prohibiting nearly 80% of white voters from casting ballots or running for office.

the klan was created in the absence of civil government and acted openly in it's stead in the absence of adequate military policing and government. many men were tried and publicly executed on sunday afternoons for a wide variety of capital offenses from 1865-1873 under klan tribunals. most of those executed were white. their offenses were the same as those of earlier civil times, and assigned the same penalties. in this period "carpetbaggers" (northern whites with political and economic interests) flocked to the south to run for office, not being bound by the iron clad oath. they were elected, and their economic interest perverted law and commerce in the south in an enduring manner. the famous SCOTUS case usually referred to as "Slaughterhouse" still plagues civil rights and empowers excessive federal intervention.

in 1873 the Grand Wizard of the United Klan petitioned Grant for relief of the union military government and the iron clad oath restriction, indicating that his refusal would cause another civil war. grant acceded, and civil order was restored over the next decade. the klan remained as a social organization. some members commited criminal acts in retributive anger, but the majority of members remained law abiding citizens.

the klan was re-envigorated in the 1890's, and by 1920 was the nation's largest social order, with 30-40% of US citizens registered as klan members. klan organizations ran public charities for war veterans, minorities, disabled, widows and children. klan organizations built schools, churches and hospitals for whites, and blacks, alike. there was even a "women's klan", and a "colored's klan" during the years between the world wars.

incidentally, the klan costume originated in catholic ceremony. klan costumes are the same as the catholic ritual costumes that were commonly owned in southern states by a largely catholic population. catholicism was a cultural identity item that separated southern whites from northern presbyterian carpetbaggers and the comercial manipulators they brought with them in the post civil war period to exploit a weakened and vulnerable south. it was an extension of the old "roundheads" and "cavaliers" conflict.

this lesson in American history brought to you by justashooter. i am justashooter, and i endorse this message. thank you for reading a history that is, though entirely factual, less than politically correct in this age of the American "tossed salad". personally, i think the melting pot worked much better.