GOP Candidate Opposes Abortion Exception In Cases Of ‘The Rape Thing’

[Danno 1,228]

What the eff did I just read? And why?

Somehow the conversation went to the treatment of the American indians.... how we would not share the land with them.

I offered an incidence from a book on frontier life by Dale every.

This is an example of the problem Washington had at the time and what to do about it.

If you can stomach more let me know.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

Somehow the conversation went to the treatment of the American indians.... how we would not share the land with them.

I offered an incidence from a book on frontier life by Dale every.

This is an example of the problem Washington had at the time and what to do about it.

If you can stomach more let me know.

That was during the revolution no?

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Come on man you are pulling a steve here... put up the parts of the bills you are referring to and the link to the interview of Ryann claiming rape is a means of BC.

Don't be looking for handouts, bro. Do your own work. Here's a starting point - this is where Ryan makes the statement that rape is a method of conception.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cat5SyMBSpk

So there's the rod, now go fishing.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

Don't be looking for handouts, bro. Do your own work. Here's a starting point - this is where Ryan makes the statement that rape is a method of conception.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cat5SyMBSpk

So there's the rod, now go fishing.

Are you an Akin supporter then? A legitimate rape is not a method of conception?

...confused.....anyone else?

Edited November 2, 2012 by Sousuke

[Danno 1,228]

Don't be looking for handouts, bro. Do your own work. Here's a starting point - this is where Ryan makes the statement that rape is a method of conception.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cat5SyMBSpk

So there's the rod, now go fishing.

The desperation is so apparent.

Ya ok and I bet if he were honest he would tell us rape is a perfectly legit way it conceive ... if you're married of course.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Are you an Akin supporter then? A legitimate rape is not a method of conception?

...confused.....anyone else?

Let there be no confusion: To me, rape is a crime. Period. It is not a method of conception. Only radical right wing nuts such as Paul Ryan, Todd Akin, Richard Mourdock and the rest of that sick lot would see rape as anything other than the violent crime that it is.

The desperation is so apparent.

What desperation? Is Paul Ryan saying that rape is a method of conception or not? Your hearing works, yes? Or do you need the transcript?

[Karee 4,191]

Can't rape also be a crime and a method of conecption? I mean on a purely biological level an egg is fertilized etc. Don't get me wrong, I'm pro choice.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Fact is that it IS a method of conception - children are unfortunately conceived that way. However, to just throw it in with "normal" methods of conception is insensitive. It needs to be talked about as the violent crime it is, not just another thing that happens to make a baby. In my opinion, anyway.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Can't rape also be a crime and a method of conecption?

Sure it can. The same way homicide is a crime and a method of population control. I just don't know any sane person that would ever think about characterizing the crime of homicide in that way. Nor do I know any rational person that would water down the crime of rape by characterizing it as a method of conception.

[Karee 4,191]

Sure it can. The same way homicide is a crime and a method of population control. I just don't know any sane person that would ever think about characterizing the crime of homicide in that way. Nor do I know any rational person that would water down the crime of rape by characterizing it as a method of conception.

I guess on a purely techincal basis, genocide is a form of population control and rape is a method of conception. Just as abortion is a method of birth control.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I guess on a purely techincal basis, genocide is a form of population control and rape is a method of conception. Just as abortion is a method of birth control.

That would all be on the same level and I wouldn't subscribe to any of these statements.

[Karee 4,191]

That would all be on the same level and I wouldn't subscribe to any of these statements.

But they are all true statements, are they not?

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

But they are all true statements, are they not?

Yes but no rational person would make them. I mean who would sit there and say that genocide a method of population control?

[JensJrny2Ray 367]

Abortion- Yeah you have a "right to choose" in the same way as I have a "right" to have in my way at Burgerking

no actually your right to choose is a bit more questionable than that because 95% of the people understand at some point in that babies development, it has a right too. If not why would the Law require the fetus be medicated before it's torn apart?

Contraceptives.- The Gov't has as a primary responsibility of protecting Life liberty and all that..... not to provide your boyfriend with condoms. Since you are imigrating here the first thing I suggest you understand is what "limited Government" means to our form of governance.

Indians- The only reason you and too many others seem so clueless and therefore mislead on the problem we had with the Indians is because you watch movies like "dances with wolves" and stuff like that to base your perception (not really your fault).

Our two cultures were two far apart, to co exist in many cases. When we called thievery they called -going to the market. When we called civilized warfare they called crazy.

How do you live side by side with people who are not far from the stone age, in some cases still eating human flesh?

Tell me if you would want this group as neighbors.

Indian Raid

A Company of Heroes

by Dale Van Every

Always the great object was surprise. Always there was the swift and secret approach, the sudden, brief, incredibly violent eruption of death and devastation, and then the equally swift and secret withdrawal. The sudden demoniac materialization out of the previously silent and seemingly empty forest of a pack of howling savages, painted in grotesquely fearsome designs of red and black and green, appeared at first glance and from that first second an apparition too appalling to permit comprehension.

The composite family of this representative instance might have comprised a husband and wife, his mother, her brother, and six children ranging from an infant in arms to teenage boy and girl. The husband was shot as the Indians sprang from the woods before he could even reach for his rifle. The brother, seated on the ground against a stump while shaping a new hoe handle, crawled frantically into a nearby patch of weeds where in the attackers' extreme excitement he remained undiscovered. The lack of resistance failed to temper the initial ferocity of the Indian assault. The raiders appeared possessed by an insensate frenzy.

The scalp was torn from the still living grandmother. The baby was snatched from its mother's arms and swung by its heels to crush its skull against a corner of the corncrib. The expiring head of the family was dismembered and his entrails festooned about the dooryard. His wife's breasts and unborn child were carved from her convulsed body and cast into the flames of the burning cabin. Every item of property too bulky to carry away was destroyed. After a brief consideration of their prospective abilities to keep pace on the return march the three younger children were dispatched, one casually axed, one tossed on the point of a spear, the third shot with arrows after being permitted to start running away. The scalps of all three children were removed with as much interest as had been their elders'. Their value at Detroit would equal that of any white adult's. The older boy and girl, selected to be carried off as captives, were not harmed. Aside from being beaten if they lagged they would be well enough treated on the way back. They, too, had a value. When they reached their captors' town they would be required to run the gauntlet, but thereafter their prospects would be subject to wide variations. Either or both might be burned for the stay-at-homes' edification, might be adopted into the tribe, or might be sold at Detroit at the going price of $100 in cash or trade for each prisoner.

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A Company of Heroes by Dale Van Every, pages 119-120

William Morrow & Company, New York, 1962

I regret bringing up the topic of First Nations. Why? Because I descend from American Indians. In fact, I'm probably more American than you, but I really don't want to go down that road. Please do not tell me that I'm misled or that I am clueless; that's like telling a black person that he/she doesn't understand what black people are like. I could go on to list the atrocities that governments have committed against Aboriginals in my country and yours but you probably wouldn't believe it anyway. I am not making assumptions about you, so please don't assume that I know nothing of the topics I speak of. I try to only speak about topics that I have some knowledge of.

Oh, I'm becoming more aware of your "limited" government. The limited government that's all up in my grill every time I so much as sneeze in the USA. My point about contraception was that, as pertaining to the topic here of abortion, is that, if the government doesn't want to fund abortions, contraception and contraception education is much cheaper but the religious right doesn't want that either!

[JensJrny2Ray 367]

Somehow the conversation went to the treatment of the American indians.... how we would not share the land with them.

I offered an incidence from a book on frontier life by Dale every.

This is an example of the problem Washington had at the time and what to do about it.

If you can stomach more let me know.

In response to this: the conversation did not go to the treatment of American Indians - I had mentioned that Europeans had pushed Aboriginals out of their own country. I didn't bring up how they did that, in fact I had said that's another topic. However, there are facts that cannot be disputed. I didn't copy and paste the most horribly graphic passage from a book that I could find. You seem to be grasping at shock-value type straws.