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Filed: IR-5 Country: Philippines
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When I went to my interview 7 years ago for a k-1 visa, all of the women that I've talked to (about 7) have huge age gaps (20+) between them and their fiance. So, the US Embassy is used to interviewing people which huge age gaps between couples. I actually do not follow the norm as I have a 5-year age gap between me and my husband(fiance then). I don't even think having a huge age gap is a red flag because all of them were approved quickly. It may not be the norm for Fiilpinas to marry somebody who's significantly older than them if they're Filipinos but it's definitely common for Filipinas and Americans( at least based on my limited sample). You don't have to worry about the age. :thumbs:

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2008-08-16 Sent N-400

2008-08-18 Application Received

2008-08-19 Check Cashed

2008-09-18 Biometrics

2008-12-09 Interview

2009-01-XX Oath (Yay! I'm a citizen)

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07/19 - NOA2 approval

08/20 - Case received at NVC

08/23 - emailed DS-3022

08/25 - mailed AOS

08/27 - received AOS

08/31 - AOS Accepted

09/04 - Received confirmation of DS-3022

09/05 - Received IV invoice

09/05 - Pay IV bill

09/06 - IV showed as paid

09/06 - Send DS-230 packet

09/10 - Received DS-230 packet by NVC

09/17 - DS-230 Accepted/Case Complete

09/28 - Transfer to Manila Embassy

10/02 - Medical Exam at St. Luke's

10/08- 10/10 - Sputum Test

10/09 - Received by Manila Embassy

10/12 - Result of Sputum Test (Need to repeat)

10/16-10/18 - Repeat Sputum Test (Negative)

12/13 - Sputum Final Result (Negative)

12/21 - Interview at Embassy (Approved)

12/28 - Visa Picked Up from 2GO

12/28 - CFO

12/30 - POE (LAX)

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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Having a 20 year age gap isn't nearly as big of a thing, but 10 is VERY young to be marrying a 44 year old man, and I think they would be better by making sure the rest of their case is very solid. A 44 year old man marrying a 19 year old girl is going to be looked upon as first and foremost a sexual relationship. By no means will it cause a denial by itself, but for SURE it will cause at least a BIT of a raised eyebrow. Even in Ph, where younger woman and older men is very common.

Just make sure that they don't have any other leaks in their boat, and make sure their case is solid. It would probably be very beneficial for them to show they have spent some decent time together. If they have only spent a week together for instance, hmm.

I don't think an age gap means a ton in the Ph. But 19, that is very young indeed.

Now it he was 60 or something...

Posted

what about boat payments?

maybe not part of the tribal customs in her town.

US Embassy Manila website. bringing your spouse/fiancee to USA

http://manila.usembassy.gov/wwwh3204.html

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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maybe not part of the tribal customs in her town.

I think it was referred to as the village.. And I believe the village was happy with 5 boats for compensation..

27 January 2012: Mailed I-129F

03 February 2012: NOA1( e-mail & Text)

03 February 2012: Check Cashed

NO RFE'S

22 June 2012 : NOA2 (e-mail & Text)

16 July 2012: Manila Case Number(by phone)

17 July 2012: Interview paid at BPI

19 July 2012: Set interview for Mid-Aug

23-24 July 2012: Medical St. Lukes(passed)

24 July 2012: CFO Seminar(had to go next morning for landline #)- PASSED

02 Aug 2012: Received e-mail from USEM our case is there.

15 Aug 2012: Interview at USEM - APPROVED

13 SEP 2012: POE Minneapolis, MN

27 OCT 2012: Married

19 NOV 2012: AOS package sent

05 DEC 2012: NOA's I-765, I-131, I-485

14 DEC 2012: Biometrics appointment finished(Walk-in..Was scheduled Jan 04 2013)

02 FEB 2013: I-131 and I-765 Approved

07 FEB 2013: USPS Picked up the combo-card

11 FEB 2013: Received Combo-card

21 FEB 2013: Transit Visa picked up in Chicago for Japan

Posted

If 19 years of age would be a red flag for a K-1, it would be a red flag for an IR-1 as well, marriage wouldn't make things different in the embassy's eyes ... they would still be looking for a real relationship and evidence of same.

Not exactly Hank, being married you then need to prove the marriage is real or course, if you can do that then by law they must grant the visa because you are married and you have the right to bring your family member to the USA, age difference is not in the equation. Being a large age difference getting married gives you more rights than a fiancee visas does. They are still quite a bit of visa fraud with K1 visa's, about 100% of the women are 18 to 23 years old. USEM is a lot better now than it was 20 years ago, but back then with a large age difference and the woman being very young, you had about a zero chance of getting a fiancee visa approved.

Filed: Other Country: Philippines
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Not exactly Hank, being married you then need to prove the marriage is real or course, if you can do that then by law they must grant the visa because you are married and you have the right to bring your family member to the USA, age difference is not in the equation. Being a large age difference getting married gives you more rights than a fiancee visas does. They are still quite a bit of visa fraud with K1 visa's, about 100% of the women are 18 to 23 years old. USEM is a lot better now than it was 20 years ago, but back then with a large age difference and the woman being very young, you had about a zero chance of getting a fiancee visa approved.

As was my point... age difference is NOT part of either equation. A K-1 visa will not be denied because of age along. Fraud is still what is watched for with either... so if the relationship is real, no issues.

Hank

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Posted

As was my point... age difference is NOT part of either equation. A K-1 visa will not be denied because of age along. Fraud is still what is watched for with either... so if the relationship is real, no issues.

The CO is not going to say your visa is denied because a young girl should not be marrying a old man! They just say your visa is denied because you have failed to establish a bona fide finance/fiancee relationship, or we believe the relationship is for immigration purposes only. But really it was because the woman was very young, and the man was older 20 to 40 years older and it's hard to proof the relationship is real if she is young. It my experience with the Manila Embassy over the last 25 years if the woman is 18 to 21 and the man is over 40 years old you have a much better chance of getting a visa approved if your married first and then easier to provide proof a bona fide marriage.

Filed: F-2A Visa Country: Philippines
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There's NO problem with the age gap.

But there are other things the guy should consider when marrying such a young girl.

IMO, she's way too young to get married. I hope she gets to experience growing up and discovering herself and her potentials as an individual before she commits into the seriousness of marriage. Live life as an independent woman first, unless she has very limited opportunities and may find the guy as the "big fish" and her "ticket" to America.

Just my two cents. :whistle:

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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The CO is not going to say your visa is denied because a young girl should not be marrying a old man! They just say your visa is denied because you have failed to establish a bona fide finance/fiancee relationship, or we believe the relationship is for immigration purposes only. But really it was because the woman was very young, and the man was older 20 to 40 years older and it's hard to proof the

relationship is real if she is young. It my experience with the Manila Embassy over the last 25 years if the woman is 18 to 21 and the man is over 40 years old you have a much better chance of getting a visa approved if your married first and then easier to provide proof a bona fide marriage.

Get off your age kick, we have heard it over and over. They don't refuse visa's based on age.. Period!

And by the way, I have heard more cases of denials and hickups with the IR visa. If you didn't know this I will let you in on a secret, just because their your family doesn't mean they have to let you in.

27 January 2012: Mailed I-129F

03 February 2012: NOA1( e-mail & Text)

03 February 2012: Check Cashed

NO RFE'S

22 June 2012 : NOA2 (e-mail & Text)

16 July 2012: Manila Case Number(by phone)

17 July 2012: Interview paid at BPI

19 July 2012: Set interview for Mid-Aug

23-24 July 2012: Medical St. Lukes(passed)

24 July 2012: CFO Seminar(had to go next morning for landline #)- PASSED

02 Aug 2012: Received e-mail from USEM our case is there.

15 Aug 2012: Interview at USEM - APPROVED

13 SEP 2012: POE Minneapolis, MN

27 OCT 2012: Married

19 NOV 2012: AOS package sent

05 DEC 2012: NOA's I-765, I-131, I-485

14 DEC 2012: Biometrics appointment finished(Walk-in..Was scheduled Jan 04 2013)

02 FEB 2013: I-131 and I-765 Approved

07 FEB 2013: USPS Picked up the combo-card

11 FEB 2013: Received Combo-card

21 FEB 2013: Transit Visa picked up in Chicago for Japan

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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Posted

They don't 'deny' visas bases on age, but those with larger age gaps, most CERTAINLY come under more scrutiny. And when THAT happens, it's possible that even a genuine relationship can be denied with the wrong CO, who for whatever reason doesn't buy it. This isn't math. There is no formula. There are human beings involved, and human judgement. And if you don't think a 44 year old man marrying a 19 year old girl is going raise at least a LITTLE suspicion, you're delusional.

None of this is to say age will cause a denial. But if I was in that situation, I'd make DAMN sure every bit of my case was air tight, and I'd recognize that I'd likely be under more scrutiny.

Luckily the Philippines is probably one of the easier countries to deal with, if you have an age gap like. But even here, I think it makes the case a tiny bit harder is all.

Filed: Timeline
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They wont deny your visa because of large age gap. The CO might ask about it though. They'll be like, "You're okay with that?" But its not a problem. You just have to prove that you have genuine relationship and give them the required documents.

Posted

what about boat payments?

maybe not part of the tribal customs in her town.

I think it was referred to as the village.. And I believe the village was happy with 5 boats for compensation..

I thought he bought a totally new boat...... oh ya that was later.

All of you are in trouble and you will never, EVER, be allowed to vote on American Idol ever again. NEVER!!!! :angry:

 

 

 

Filed: Other Country: Philippines
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The CO is not going to say your visa is denied because a young girl should not be marrying a old man! They just say your visa is denied because you have failed to establish a bona fide finance/fiancee relationship, or we believe the relationship is for immigration purposes only. :bonk: But really it was because the woman was very young, and the man was older 20 to 40 years older and it's hard to proof the relationship is real if she is young. :no: It my experience with the Manila Embassy over the last 25 years if the woman is 18 to 21 and the man is over 40 years old you have a much better chance of getting a visa approved if your married first and then easier to provide proof a bona fide marriage.

Its about time for hip boots here. You are how old? And have been having experience with the embassy for the past 25 years? Really? Just what is your experience with the K-1 visa being denied because of age?

As many have said already in response to your post.... age gap is not an issue. :thumbs:

All of you are in trouble and you will never, EVER, be allowed to vote on American Idol ever again. NEVER!!!! :angry:

...... :wacko: .... :devil:

Hank

"Chance Favors The Prepared Mind"

 

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“LET’S GO BRANDON!”

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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Posted

There is quite a significant age gap between Juliet and myself and to this day I still chuckle to think of how she pestered me, over and over...till I finally paid attention to her. I pretty much said: "you're too young...." from the beginning. (I won't tell her age but she no longer needs to fit into the approval or advice category) but she eventually convinced me that she wasn't too young...

Sometimes some people are more mature than their age might indicate, and others might be "younger" than their years might suggest....

09/29/2012 - Met Online

11/22/2012 - 11/28/2012 - Steve's 1st Visit

02/08/2013 - I129F Submitted

02/12/2013 - NOA1

02/13/2013 - 03/07/2013 - Steve's 2nd Visit

02/14/2013 - Officially Engaged

06/21/2013 - Case transferred from VSC to TSC

07/24/2013 - NOA2

08/21/2013 - File sent to NVC

08/28/2013 - MNL Case Number received through phone

08/30/2013 - Visa Fee Paid

09/04/2013 - Medical Exam at SLEC (Done in 1 day)

09/25/2013 - Interview Appointment (Under AP with 221G)

10/01/2013 - Additional Document dropped at 2GO SM Cebu

10/08/2013 - CEAC Status Updated to READY

10/30/2013 - CEAC Status Updated to AP

10/30/2013 - CEAC Status ISSUED

11/06/2013 - VISA Received

11/11/2013 - CFO Done

11/15/2013 - POE Detroit

 
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