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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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Hello,

I'm wondering, if my husband is issued a 10 year GC, let's say after 2 or 3 years, he misses home, so we move back to canada... then after 2 years there, he decided the US was a better option so we move back down... is that allowed?

I'm just wondering if he forfeits his green card at any point by staying in Canada for any long period of time?

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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If he moves back to Canada he'll lose his US green card and you'll have to re-petition for him to enter the US as a resident. He cannot keep his green card if he becomes a resident of another county (say Canada for 2 years)

Good luck

USCIS
August 12, 2008 - petition sent
August 16, 2008 - NOA-1
February 10, 2009 - NOA-2
178 DAYS FROM NOA-1


NVC
February 13, 2009 - NVC case number assigned
March 12, 2009 - Case Complete
25 DAY TRIP THROUGH NVC


Medical
May 4, 2009


Interview
May, 26, 2009


POE - June 20, 2009 Toronto - Atlanta, GA

Removal of Conditions
Filed - April 14, 2011
Biometrics - June 2, 2011 (early)
Approval - November 9, 2011
209 DAY TRIP TO REMOVE CONDITIONS

Citizenship

April 29, 2013 - NOA1 for petition received

September 10, 2013 Interview - decision could not be made.

April 15, 2014 APPROVED. Wait for oath ceremony

Waited...

September 29, 2015 - sent letter to senator.

October 16, 2015 - US Citizen

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Filed: Country: Monaco
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Hello,

I'm wondering, if my husband is issued a 10 year GC, let's say after 2 or 3 years, he misses home, so we move back to canada... then after 2 years there, he decided the US was a better option so we move back down... is that allowed?

I'm just wondering if he forfeits his green card at any point by staying in Canada for any long period of time?

It all depends on how you handle the absence.

Here are the guidelines from the USCIS on how to maintain status:

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=3f443a4107083210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=3f443a4107083210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD

You may lose your permanent resident status (green card) if you commit an act that makes you removable from the United States under the law, as described in Section 237 or 212 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) (see the “INA” link to the right). If you commit such an act, you may be brought before an immigration court to determine your right to remain a permanent resident.

Abandoning Permanent Resident Status

You may be found to have abandoned your permanent resident status if you:

  • Move to another country intending to live there permanently
  • Remain outside of the United States for more than 1 year without obtaining a reentry permit or returning resident visa. However, in determining whether your status has been abandoned, any length of absence from the United States may be considered, even if less than 1 year
  • Remain outside of the United States for more than 2 years after issuance of a reentry permit without obtaining a returning resident visa. However, in determining whether your status has been abandoned any length of absence from the United States may be considered, even if less than 1 year
  • Fail to file income tax returns while living outside of the United States for any period
  • Declare yourself a “nonimmigrant” on your tax returns

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Kenya
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...and I will be blunt on this:

YES, he will have forfeited his 'green card' after going to 'his home' and staying away from the US for 2 years. I don't think they will be amused when he applies for a re-entry to return to the US and give "I missed home" as his reason for having gone away from the US for 2 years.

I know your question had a tint of the hypothetical, but they do issue those things for people who want to make the US their permanent home. Canada is just up the road - across the border, regular visits 'home' should take care of the 'missing home' part.

Below is a potion from USCIS.GOV

Maintaining Permanent Residence

You may lose your permanent resident status (green card) if you commit an act that makes you removable from the United States under the law, as described in Section 237 or 212 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) (see the “INA” link to the right). If you commit such an act, you may be brought before an immigration court to determine your right to remain a permanent resident.

Abandoning Permanent Resident Status

You may be found to have abandoned your permanent resident status if you:

Move to another country intending to live there permanently

Remain outside of the United States for more than 1 year without obtaining a reentry permit or returning resident visa. However, in determining whether your status has been abandoned, any length of absence from the United States may be considered, even if less than 1 year

Remain outside of the United States for more than 2 years after issuance of a reentry permit without obtaining a returning resident visa. However, in determining whether your status has been abandoned any length of absence from the United States may be considered, even if less than 1 year

Fail to file income tax returns while living outside of the United States for any period

Declare yourself a “nonimmigrant” on your tax returns

AOS, ROC, N-400, & PASSPORT, FOR HUSBAND TO USC

[02/23, 2012]  - DAY 001  (day 0001) (AOS) Mailed package to Chicago Lockbox via USPS overnight
[06/01, 2012]  - 
DAY 099  (day 0099) 2-year Conditional GC in hand
[05/05, 2014]  - DAY 001  (day 0802) (ROC) Mailed package to Vermont Service Center via USPS overnight

[05/14, 2014]  - DAY 009  (day 0811) Received NOA1 (GC Extended for 1 year)

[01/14, 2016]  - DAY 620  (day 1421) 10-year GC in hand

[02/22, 2017]  - DAY 001  (day 1826) (N-400) Mailed package to Lewisville, TX, via USPS overnight

[01/10, 2018]  - DAY 323  (day 2149) (N-400) Naturalization Oath Ceremony (5 years, 10 months, 19 days)

[01/10, 2018]  - DAY 001  (day 2149) (US Passport) Applied for US Passport, regular processing

01/25, 2018]  - DAY 015  (day 2164) (US Passport) Passport in hand (5 years, 11 months, 3 days from start of Journey.)

 

AOS, N-400, & PASSPORT FOR DAUGHTER [OF HUSBAND TO USC]

[06/14, 2013] - DAY 001 Mailed package to Chicago Lockbox via USPS overnight
[11/21, 2013] - Day 153 SSN and 10-year GC in hand

09/01, 2021]  - (day 3001) (US Passport) Passport in hand (8 years, 2 months, 18 days from start of Journey.)

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Filed: Other Country: China
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Hello,

I'm wondering, if my husband is issued a 10 year GC, let's say after 2 or 3 years, he misses home, so we move back to canada... then after 2 years there, he decided the US was a better option so we move back down... is that allowed?

I'm just wondering if he forfeits his green card at any point by staying in Canada for any long period of time?

Google "maintaining permanent resident status US" for the information you need. Leaving for more than a year can lose the resident status. If he's been a resident for 3 years, becoming a US Citizen will afford the privilege of leaving for as long as he wants without problems.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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Google "maintaining permanent resident status US" for the information you need. Leaving for more than a year can lose the resident status. If he's been a resident for 3 years, becoming a US Citizen will afford the privilege of leaving for as long as he wants without problems.

Cool, thanks, this is what I was thinking.

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Weird that nobody mentioned this, unless I overlooked it, but if you move to Canada on January 1, 2013 and your husband reestablishes residency on January 2, 2013, then he has effectively abandoned his U.S. permanent residency after only 2 days.

No need for a year to pass.

Since a person can only be residing in one country of a time, the establishing or reestablishing of residency in Canada is all that's needed to kiss the Green Card goodbye. Canada and the United States share such information freely.

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all . . . . The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic . . . . There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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Weird that nobody mentioned this, unless I overlooked it, but if you move to Canada on January 1, 2013 and your husband reestablishes residency on January 2, 2013, then he has effectively abandoned his U.S. permanent residency after only 2 days.

No need for a year to pass.

Since a person can only be residing in one country of a time, the establishing or reestablishing of residency in Canada is all that's needed to kiss the Green Card goodbye. Canada and the United States share such information freely.

Righty-HO! And he'll likely re-establish residency to get that sweet socialized medicine!

Good luck

USCIS
August 12, 2008 - petition sent
August 16, 2008 - NOA-1
February 10, 2009 - NOA-2
178 DAYS FROM NOA-1


NVC
February 13, 2009 - NVC case number assigned
March 12, 2009 - Case Complete
25 DAY TRIP THROUGH NVC


Medical
May 4, 2009


Interview
May, 26, 2009


POE - June 20, 2009 Toronto - Atlanta, GA

Removal of Conditions
Filed - April 14, 2011
Biometrics - June 2, 2011 (early)
Approval - November 9, 2011
209 DAY TRIP TO REMOVE CONDITIONS

Citizenship

April 29, 2013 - NOA1 for petition received

September 10, 2013 Interview - decision could not be made.

April 15, 2014 APPROVED. Wait for oath ceremony

Waited...

September 29, 2015 - sent letter to senator.

October 16, 2015 - US Citizen

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
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Moved from IR-1/CR-1 Process & Procedures to General Immigration-Related Discussion; topic is unrelated to the spousal visa process itself.

Our journey:

Spoiler

September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

December 18, 2023:  Filed I-90 to renew Green Card

December 21, 2023:  Production of new Green Card ordered - will be seeing USCIS again every 10 years for renewal

 

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This may be obvious but nobody has mentioned it yet: If he applies for US citizenship, which he can do 2 years and 9 months after the date he first became a permanent resident (whether he had a 2-year or 10-year green card at the time is not important), he can become a dual citizen and will then forever be free to live and work in either the US or Canada with no constraints.

Spouse-based AOS from out-of-status H-1B, May - Aug 2012

Removal of conditions, Aug - Nov 2014

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