reason for denial

[Fahim Zahid 0]

Hello, i guess as far i understand..U had a wrong point of view.

I myself am a muslim and just closed my NV case and now going for interview in madrid..

Well,u were engaged but at the same time you got a marriage certificate back in 2009 so that made u a husband not a fiance..when u have a marriage certificate,you r married.simply..Traditional receptions and functions are not meant to be a official marriage.those r jst customs..official marriage is a contract paper that u obtained back in 2009..

so u had no reason to apply for fiance visa when u were married so even now,when u apply,explain u submitted a wrong application.and you will have to put the ur marriage date of 2009 that is written on marriage paper as i told u earlier,official departments go for official documents and not for ceremonies or functions..

[arabianprincess 5]

Hello, i guess as far i understand..U had a wrong point of view.

I myself am a muslim and just closed my NV case and now going for interview in madrid ..

Well,u were engaged but at the same time you got a marriage certificate back in 2009 so that made u a husband not a fiance..when u have a marriage certificate,you r married.simply..Traditional receptions and functions are not meant to be a official marriage.those r jst customs..official marriage is a contract paper that u obtained back in 2009..

so u had no reason to apply for fiance visa when u were married so even now,when u apply,explain u submitted a wrong application.and you will have to put the ur marriage date of 2009 that is written on marriage paper as i told u earlier,official departments go for official documents and not for ceremonies or functions..

Yes I know that now.but.the problem is I already.submitted my.i130 and put my wedding reception date on it

[Fahim Zahid 0]

hmm so u have made a mistake.i guess inform them that u put ur wedding date by mistake

[bsd058 296]

How did you make the same mistake twice?

I don't know if this is something that can be fixed. Possibly contact USCIS. See what they have to say about it.

[pushbrk 12,877]

How did you make the same mistake twice?

I don't know if this is something that can be fixed. Possibly contact USCIS. See what they have to say about it.

The same mistake was made twice because there was little, if any attention or priority given to truth and accuracy. This is a prescription for failure all can learn from. I suspect there will be no real consequence for this mistake but we'll have to wait and see which visa is eventually issued, CR1 or IR1.

[sttom 6]

Depending on who actually pays attention, this may be caught by the USCIS during I-130 processing and issue an RFE. If not by the USCIS, you may be able to put the right date on form DS-230. Are there any consequences of having a date in DS-230 different from the form I-130? That would again depend on if they pay attention.

Either way, I would advice you to get things corrected before the visa is issued. Once its in the system, and the visa issued, you might have a tough time correcting it since it wasn't an administrative error on their part. (You will end up with June 2012 as the date in the immigration system while a certificate that shows July 2009)

And also,if not corrected earlier, a not-so-easy time during the interview since one of the questions that is most likely to be asked is "When did you get married?"

These are just my thoughts on the situations that could possibly arise.

[arabianprincess 5]

I will call my lawyer about this issue tomorrow and get her to find out the best route without delaying the process any longer, Im hoping she can correct it by speaking to someone or maybe if.I.write a letter to them explaining why we had this issue I just want to do anything I can to avoid an RFE, also I dont mind the type of GC he gets as long as he gets one soon. As long as were together we dont care

[arabianprincess 5]

Also wouldnt saying we got married in 09 be lieing since we didnt actually consider ourself married until the reception. Wouldnt it just be better to explain to them our reason for having the marriage certificate done before. The US is usually accepting of customs and traditiins of other religions. What do yall think?

[bsd058 296]

Also wouldnt saying we got married in 09 be lieing since we didnt actually consider ourself married until the reception. Wouldnt it just be better to explain to them our reason for having the marriage certificate done before. The US is usually accepting of customs and traditiins of other religions. What do yall think?

They are looking for your legal marital status. There are different senses of the same word, "marriage." You've equivocated marriage/wedding to a ceremony which took place after the legal contract was signed. The government sees it as the date you signed the marriage contract. It's not lying. It's recognizing that different senses exist for the same word, and using the appropriate sense for the government so that you both (you and the government) understand the words you are using.

[arabianprincess 5]

They are looking for your legal marital status. There are different senses of the same word, "marriage." You've equivocated marriage/wedding to a ceremony which took place after the legal contract was signed. The government sees it as the date you signed the marriage contract. It's not lying. It's recognizing that different senses exist for the same word, and using the appropriate sense for the government so that you both (you and the government) understand the words you are using.

What is your advice on what I should do about this issue? Should I call and let them know, should I wait and see if I get an RFE, or any other option you think would be good.

Also during an interview how should he explain this?

[bsd058 296]

I would call and see how to go about fixing this. They might tell you to wait for a RFE. During the interview (after everything is fixed) he should just tell them the truth. You thought they wanted your religious ceremony date, rather than the legal wedding date. If they get mad at you or accuse you of anything, there's nothing you can do amount it. You already sent the forms in. You can't change the past. You can only try to fix it. I think they'll understand though. This type of error is made sometimes. It's not completely uncommon.

[arabianprincess 5]

Ok thank you youve been alot of help

[pushbrk 12,877]

Folks, an RFE is a request for evidence they don't have. They have evidence the couple is married, so it's unlikely there will be an RFE. Tell the truth moving forward. It works wonders. If asked about any date discrepancy, explain with the truth and let the chips fall where they may. The only real issue is whether they issue an IR1, CR1 or no visa. This issue is unlikely impact approval or denial of the visa OR generate any RFE.

[Ihavequestions 419]

Also wouldnt saying we got married in 09 be lieing since we didnt actually consider ourself married until the reception. Wouldnt it just be better to explain to them our reason for having the marriage certificate done before. The US is usually accepting of customs and traditiins of other religions. What do yall think?

No, because that's when you got married.

A copy of the marriage certificate is all that is necessary for a man and a woman to rent an apartment together, stay in a hotel together, etc. To do so does not require a copy of the marriage certificate and a wedding party video.

When you signed that marriage contract, you got married. It doesn't matter how long you waited until you had the party. So saying you got married in 2009 is not a lie, but it does say you were not fully informed of the legal ramifications of signing the marriage contract.

[arabianprincess 5]

Folks, an RFE is a request for evidence they don't have. They have evidence the couple is married, so it's unlikely there will be an RFE. Tell the truth moving forward. It works wonders. If asked about any date discrepancy, explain with the truth and let the chips fall where they may. The only real issue is whether they issue an IR1, CR1 or no visa. This issue is unlikely impact approval or denial of the visa OR generate any RFE.

But it shouldnt be likely that I get denied for this right? We havent lied about anything and we have proof of a bonafide relationship.