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Filed: Lift. Cond. (pnd) Country: Japan
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I've read most of the existing threads asking if one should get their third-party affidavits of support for the i-130 applicaiton notarized or not. Most responses said they don't need to be notarized, particularly because affidavits aren't that important unless other evidence of a bonafide marriage is thin. Well, we're a little thin: we don't cohabitate, and we live in a country that doesn't allow for joint ownership of property--including joint bank accounts. So, all we've got, really, are photo evidence and third-party affidavits. In this case, is it necessary to get the affidavits notarized? We live in a country where notaries aren't really that common and will only notarize our "foreign language" document for a very steep price (about $225, which is hard to swallow considering you can get it done for free in the USA).

IR-1/CR-1 Visa
Service Center : National Benefits Center
Consulate : Tokyo, Japan

UCIS
2012-10-10 : Marriage
2012-11-01 : I-130 Sent
2012-11-06 : I-130 NOA1 [i-797c]
2013-01-04 : I-130 NOA2 [i-797]

NVC
2013-01-30 : Received [DS-3032 | I-864 bill]
2013-01-31 : Sent [DS-3032 mailed | I-864 (AoS) bill paid]
2013-02-07 : Sent I-864 (AoS)
2013-02-13 : NVC acknowledged receipt of DS-3032
2013-02-14 : Received IV bill (DS-230)
2013-02-14 : Paid IV bill (DS-230)
2013-02-22 : NVC requests IV application (DS-230)
2013-02-22 : Sent IV (DS-230) application
2013-03-12 : NVC sends email [case complete]

EMBASSY
2013-04-08 : Interview scheduled [passed]
2013-04-09 : Visa issued [online notification]
2013-04-11 : Visa received (via mail)

2013-05-12 : Passed through U.S. immigration (LAX)

i-751 Removing Conditions

2015-03-09 : Sent i-751 application

2015-03-16 : Received NOA (i-797)

2015-04-14 : Received NOA (i-797c)

2015-05-01 : Biometrics appointment

2015-10-01 : Notice of Removal of Conditions, NOA(I-797)

2015-10-05 : New Green Card Received

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Algeria
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I've read most of the existing threads asking if one should get their third-party affidavits of support for the i-130 application notarized or not. Most responses said they don't need to be notarized, particularly because affidavits aren't that important unless other evidence of a bonafide marriage is thin. Well, we're a little thin: we don't cohabitate, and we live in a country that doesn't allow for joint ownership of property--including joint bank accounts. So, all we've got, really, are photo evidence and third-party affidavits. In this case, is it necessary to get the affidavits notarized? We live in a country where notaries aren't really that common and will only notarize our "foreign language" document for a very steep price (about $225, which is hard to swallow considering you can get it done for free in the USA).

Many people have given various opinions here in the past regarding your question. To me the question is - how important is it to you?

For us- we spared no expense for any part of the process. This was the single most important thing to me was getting my husband here so I wanted everything as smooth as possible.

We got ours notarized, yes even from his country. Did it help? I don't know. Did it hurt? No. So was it worth what it cost for us? Definitely.

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
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You have photo evidence? What else do you have that is not listed on the form instructions but would be acceptable for submission and consideration? Have you gone on trips together? If so, do you have copies of boarding passes and receipts from such trips?

To paraphrase pushbrk, evidence of time spent together in person is your strongest evidence.

Our journey:

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September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

December 18, 2023:  Filed I-90 to renew Green Card

December 21, 2023:  Production of new Green Card ordered - will be seeing USCIS again every 10 years for renewal

 

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Mexico
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I've read most of the existing threads asking if one should get their third-party affidavits of support for the i-130 applicaiton notarized or not. Most responses said they don't need to be notarized, particularly because affidavits aren't that important unless other evidence of a bonafide marriage is thin. Well, we're a little thin: we don't cohabitate, and we live in a country that doesn't allow for joint ownership of property--including joint bank accounts. So, all we've got, really, are photo evidence and third-party affidavits. In this case, is it necessary to get the affidavits notarized? We live in a country where notaries aren't really that common and will only notarize our "foreign language" document for a very steep price (about $225, which is hard to swallow considering you can get it done for free in the USA).

Hello!! :) Which country is the beneficiary from? maybe some other VJ members from the same country here can help you! :yes:

About your question,I agree with MedRoni.

I think is up to you if you wanna get them notarized or not,considering the other evidences that you have.

I know that is pricey to get an affidavit notarized (we paid $220 aprox), in general that services are not cheap, but in our case we decided to play safe and go for notarized. Notary only accepted the affidavit in Spanish, but he told us that after he stamped his signature and hologram, we could take it to a translator, which is what we did.

Indeed, it's an extra expense (like another $100USD) that maybe we didnt considered, but we think it will be worth it! :yes: the most important thing for us is to be reunited and stay together forever :yes: so we wanted to send out as many evidence as we had in that moment, maybe it's unlikely to get a RFE.

As you mentioned that you don't have joint properties (we are in the same boat...), maybe you can also add pictures of you together with family and friends, if you have travelled together inside the country maybe some boarding passes will come handy (we even used bus tickets that we got under our names), maybe hotel recepits, letters addressed to you both...etc

GOOD LUCK!! :thumbs:

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Wedding: April 19th 2012

USCIS (226 days)

NOA1: June 4th 2012

NOA2: January 16th 2013 (226 days after NOA1)

NOA2 hardcopy: January 19th 2013

NVC

Case received 01/21/2013

Case number,IIN and Beneficiary ID 02/05/2013

Case complete 03/20/2013

Medical exam 05/09/2013

Interview 05/13/2013-APPROVED

Received passport with visa 05/16/2013
POE 05/22/2013

ROC

I-751 sent 02/27/2015

NOA 03/03/2015
Biometrics 04/10/2015

Approval: 09/17/2015

GC in mail: 09/26/2015

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (pnd) Country: Japan
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She is from Japan.

Yes, we will be including photos from trips together (both inside Japan and to the U.S.), showing how our passport stamps indicate we were in the U.S. at the same overlapping period (and then showing pictures from the trip).

But, with no joint ownership of property or finances, coupled with no cohabitation, we are worried about our application. So, we're doing the third-party affidavits. One my sister did in the U.S. (for free!) and mailed to us. The other her sister is doing, but again the quote is $225 and requires her to take a day off of work. So, we were wondering if, instead of a notary, we could just have a witness sign instead, verifying that she signed it. Would that be enough?

Other than that, we'll also be submitting documents showing she legally changed her surname to mine in Japan (which is a time-consuming process in itself) as evidence that she is committed to our relationship by changing her identity in her home country as well. We're not sure if this will help, but it can't hurt, right?

IR-1/CR-1 Visa
Service Center : National Benefits Center
Consulate : Tokyo, Japan

UCIS
2012-10-10 : Marriage
2012-11-01 : I-130 Sent
2012-11-06 : I-130 NOA1 [i-797c]
2013-01-04 : I-130 NOA2 [i-797]

NVC
2013-01-30 : Received [DS-3032 | I-864 bill]
2013-01-31 : Sent [DS-3032 mailed | I-864 (AoS) bill paid]
2013-02-07 : Sent I-864 (AoS)
2013-02-13 : NVC acknowledged receipt of DS-3032
2013-02-14 : Received IV bill (DS-230)
2013-02-14 : Paid IV bill (DS-230)
2013-02-22 : NVC requests IV application (DS-230)
2013-02-22 : Sent IV (DS-230) application
2013-03-12 : NVC sends email [case complete]

EMBASSY
2013-04-08 : Interview scheduled [passed]
2013-04-09 : Visa issued [online notification]
2013-04-11 : Visa received (via mail)

2013-05-12 : Passed through U.S. immigration (LAX)

i-751 Removing Conditions

2015-03-09 : Sent i-751 application

2015-03-16 : Received NOA (i-797)

2015-04-14 : Received NOA (i-797c)

2015-05-01 : Biometrics appointment

2015-10-01 : Notice of Removal of Conditions, NOA(I-797)

2015-10-05 : New Green Card Received

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Mexico
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She is from Japan.

Yes, we will be including photos from trips together (both inside Japan and to the U.S.), showing how our passport stamps indicate we were in the U.S. at the same overlapping period (and then showing pictures from the trip).

But, with no joint ownership of property or finances, coupled with no cohabitation, we are worried about our application. So, we're doing the third-party affidavits. One my sister did in the U.S. (for free!) and mailed to us. The other her sister is doing, but again the quote is $225 and requires her to take a day off of work. So, we were wondering if, instead of a notary, we could just have a witness sign instead, verifying that she signed it. Would that be enough?

Other than that, we'll also be submitting documents showing she legally changed her surname to mine in Japan (which is a time-consuming process in itself) as evidence that she is committed to our relationship by changing her identity in her home country as well. We're not sure if this will help, but it can't hurt, right?

Oh, so she is from Japan :yes: Is there any VJmember from Japan here????

Yeah, you will see that many of us (VJ members) don't have either joint properties ownership, in these cases it's better to send all the evidence we have, no matter how small "impact" it may have, to make it up for the other suggestions of evidence we don't have.

I think it's a great idea that you send the pictures, passport stamps, the third-party affidavits from your sisters....here I think it may work the letter even if it's not notarized, but anyway attach the one that it is (we have sent notarized affidavits from people in Mexico and the ones from people is USA were not notarized...we didn't get NOA2 yet, but hopefully it won't be a problem), of course if you have done the paperwork to change her last name, SEND IT :yes:, it won't hurt to send a little extra.

The idea is to send all what you have, sometimes is better to send more and that package looks thick than getting a RFE because the evidence was not enough.

Good luck!!!

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Wedding: April 19th 2012

USCIS (226 days)

NOA1: June 4th 2012

NOA2: January 16th 2013 (226 days after NOA1)

NOA2 hardcopy: January 19th 2013

NVC

Case received 01/21/2013

Case number,IIN and Beneficiary ID 02/05/2013

Case complete 03/20/2013

Medical exam 05/09/2013

Interview 05/13/2013-APPROVED

Received passport with visa 05/16/2013
POE 05/22/2013

ROC

I-751 sent 02/27/2015

NOA 03/03/2015
Biometrics 04/10/2015

Approval: 09/17/2015

GC in mail: 09/26/2015

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: India
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I've read most of the existing threads asking if one should get their third-party affidavits of support for the i-130 applicaiton notarized or not. Most responses said they don't need to be notarized, particularly because affidavits aren't that important unless other evidence of a bonafide marriage is thin. Well, we're a little thin: we don't cohabitate, and we live in a country that doesn't allow for joint ownership of property--including joint bank accounts. So, all we've got, really, are photo evidence and third-party affidavits. In this case, is it necessary to get the affidavits notarized? We live in a country where notaries aren't really that common and will only notarize our "foreign language" document for a very steep price (about $225, which is hard to swallow considering you can get it done for free in the USA).

I'm paranoid - I made sure all our marriage affidavits (to state under penalty of law that our marriage is bona fide) was notarized. And I had my husband courier those notarized marriage affidavits all the way from India. You have no idea how much I had to convince him this was necessary and would make me a happy wife :-)

So yes, notarize your third-party affidavits of support. If you feel something in your gut, go with it!!!!!

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SANJOG - Marriage Made in Heaven
09/28/2012: Married the love of my life in a traditional Hindu ceremony - Saat Phere
10/01/2012: Court Marriage

USCIS
10/22/2012: Submitted I-130
10/24/2012: USCIS Notice of Action Received Date
10/24/2012: USCIS Notice of Action Priority Date
10/25/2012: I-797C, Notice of Action Notice Date
10/26/2012: USCIS texted/emailed me that they received I-130
02/25/2013: USCIS website says I-130 is approved

NVC
03/15/2013: Received NVC Case Number
03/15/2013: Received Affidavit of Support (AOS) Processing Fee Bill Invoice
03/29/2013: Mailed Choice of Address and Agent to NVC
03/29/2013: Made $88 AOS fee payment
04/11/2013: AOS fee status "PAID"
04/13/2013: Made $230 IV fee payment
04/14/2013: FedEX'd the AOS package
04/19/2013: IV fee status "PAID"

05/08/2013: FedEX'd the IV package (said lots of prayers while preparing the documentation!!!)

05/22/2013: NVC gave checklist to send Indian Police Certificate

06/23/2013: FedED'd the IV package with Indian Police Certificate and Updated Passport Page (I was added as Spouse)

07/25/2013: Case Complete

Embassy

07/31/2013: Received Interview Date for 09/19/2013

09/10/2013: Husband did Medical

09/19/2013: Interview Date for US Embassy in New Delhi - OM SAI RAM - ***APPROVED***

09/26/2013: Husband received Passport with US Visa in postal mail

***USA***

10/10/2013: Flight Departs New Delhi

10/11/2013: Flight Arrives USA

10/24/2013: Husband received Social Security Card

11/13/2013: Paid $165 Immigration Fee

12/09/2013: Husband received Green Card

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (pnd) Country: Japan
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Since one of the affidavits are notarized, I'm just going to have a witness sign the other one in place of a notary. I hope that'll suffice.

IR-1/CR-1 Visa
Service Center : National Benefits Center
Consulate : Tokyo, Japan

UCIS
2012-10-10 : Marriage
2012-11-01 : I-130 Sent
2012-11-06 : I-130 NOA1 [i-797c]
2013-01-04 : I-130 NOA2 [i-797]

NVC
2013-01-30 : Received [DS-3032 | I-864 bill]
2013-01-31 : Sent [DS-3032 mailed | I-864 (AoS) bill paid]
2013-02-07 : Sent I-864 (AoS)
2013-02-13 : NVC acknowledged receipt of DS-3032
2013-02-14 : Received IV bill (DS-230)
2013-02-14 : Paid IV bill (DS-230)
2013-02-22 : NVC requests IV application (DS-230)
2013-02-22 : Sent IV (DS-230) application
2013-03-12 : NVC sends email [case complete]

EMBASSY
2013-04-08 : Interview scheduled [passed]
2013-04-09 : Visa issued [online notification]
2013-04-11 : Visa received (via mail)

2013-05-12 : Passed through U.S. immigration (LAX)

i-751 Removing Conditions

2015-03-09 : Sent i-751 application

2015-03-16 : Received NOA (i-797)

2015-04-14 : Received NOA (i-797c)

2015-05-01 : Biometrics appointment

2015-10-01 : Notice of Removal of Conditions, NOA(I-797)

2015-10-05 : New Green Card Received

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