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I believe if the guys in the nazi uniforms weren't there, then maybe it wouldn't have been an issue. Like I said I wasn't there so I can fight this argument without all of the facts first.

ha been there many times and used to own a M1928 Thompson Sub Machine Gun. Great fun. Expensive to shoot.

There are people there who, among other things, collect military paraphanalia (Can you imagine!) Heck, whole cable TV networks are built around it. And guess what? Some of that is Nazi stuff. Now being married to a Ukrainian and having lived where Nazi's destroyed everything and people ate wallpaper paste and hundreds of children were marched to bomb craters and shot in the head by Nazi's becuse they were...SLAVIC! (Lord help us!) and 22 million people were killed TWENTY TWO MILLION! You might think I am offended by such things.

I am not.

These are historically signifgant artifacts and people interested in history. Knob Creek (for the majority of you with opinions but NO CLUE) is on what used to Ft. Knox property and was a firing rnge for the military. Just a couple miles south is the main entrance of Ft. Knox which is NOT just where they keep the gold. It is a large military base and formerly home of the 3rd Armored Division and the US Armor and Cavalry Center.

My father was a small arms instructor there before and after WW2 until he retired. Elvis Presley was inducted at Ft. Knox and was in the 3rd Armored (Spearhead). It is now home to the Ist Infantry Division (Big Red 1).

The area, Elizabethtown, Radcliff, Vine Grove and all of Hardin County are full of military retirees and military forgin wives, most are GERMAN or KOREAN because that is where the 3rd Armored rotated in and out of for decades. As you can imagine (or maybe not) lots of men married to German women may want to collect German military artifacts.

Ft. Knox is also home to the General Goerge S.Patton Museum and the Patton museum has one of the largest collections of military vehicles in the world. Nazi, Soviet, Iraqi included. They retore historic vehicles there and sell them or donate them around the country. If you have an M4 Sherman or M47 Patton tank (those seem to be the popular models) in front of your local VFW or American Legion Hall, it was probably restored at the Patton Musuem. The Patton Museum conducts reenactments of Historical battles on hoilidays which are widely attended. Historical reenactment is quite an industry and WW2 and the Civil War are the most common periods usually covered. People wearing Nazi uniforms and collecting Nazi artifacts are no more NAZIs than you or me.

They are also a small part of the crowd (ver small) and any video about this event that focuses on perhaps 25 people out many thousands is clearly nothing but biased.

Incidently, full auto or selectove fire weapons (assualt weapons) were never mentioned or affected by the "Assault Weapons Ban" that really did not ban ANY weapons. Unless your state pronibits it (and a few states that restrict freedom do) then owning a machine gun has ALWAYS been legal. Since 1934 they have to be regsitered with the Federal Government and you pay a $200 transfer tax to register one in your name. The $200 tax may have been a problem in 1934 but now it barely buys 5 minutes of shooting the thing!

If you have not been there (and base your opiions in ignorance) you should go. 2nd weekend of April and October. The April event coincides with the start of the Kentucky Derby Festival in Louisville.

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That's weird, I spent 3 years living in Wurzburg, Germany when I was stationed there back in 1997. My first wife was German, so I had a lot of exposure to that particular culture, do you know how many artifacts and memorabilia I saw when I was there? None, because most of the population was ashamed of what transpired back then. It was a dark time in their history, so it tends to be a sore subject. The one time I saw a guy wearing a jacket with the Nazi symbol wasn't a historian wanting to learn more about that period, his head was shaved and he said something in German that my wife at the time wouldn't repeat to me. So this whole you can wear the uniform and not be associated with the beliefs is far fetched at best. There are so many other artifacts associated with WW2, why would someone focus on just that part of history. By you logic, if this was true then you could sell this stuff and no one would get in trouble. But there is a reason why you don't see it at regular stores, the message it carries with it.

I have no problems with guns, I've shot the M16A2, M203, SAW, 9mm, and AT-4. But when I see the bumper stickers in the background, plus the guy who posted this might as well have said f*** Obama, makes you wonder...

Your absurd. They don't just focus on that part of History. You will also see Vietnam war paraphernalia, Korean etc.

Also this event is not in Germany it's in the USA.

The Discovery channel shows films all the time with Nazi's in them. Does that make them Nazi's.

Your just flat wrong. You proposing those events are even remotely Pro-Nazi or Racist is silly, childish and factually impotent.

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You know what I'll take that bet, because not all black people are crack addicted, welfare recipient, violent prone animals. Just like all white people aren't homophobic, close minded, greedy, racists. I can tell the difference. This is a personal video, maybe there wasn't people in Nazi uniforms, but you are doing a lot of spin control. I read guys in uniforms displaying sign, now in the proper context I could agree with your point, but the article doesn't give that context.

Your off the chain. I don't think all black people are that string of stereotypes you just hurled, and I never said anything about black people, so why do you throw that out. Maybe in your mind that is a stereotype, but not mine for sure. I don't need spin control, because I know the truth.

Let me ask you this Hot Rod ? Ebay has well over 1000 Nazi memorabilia on sale. 240 hits just for Swastika. Is Ebay a hate group ? Surely since they have Swastikas for sale they are a Neo-Nazi skin head group right ? :rofl::rofl:

I do stand by my statement that I would be a lot safer at Knob Creek with an Obama shirt than in an inner city Chicago neighborhood with a Romney shirt on. You go ahead and take that bet. Heck for that matter just go to an inner city political rally with a Romney shirt on and let me know how that works out for you ?

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Your off the chain. I don't think all black people are that string of stereotypes you just hurled, and I never said anything about black people, so why do you throw that out. Maybe in your mind that is a stereotype, but not mine for sure. I don't need spin control, because I know the truth.

Let me ask you this Hot Rod ? Ebay has well over 1000 Nazi memorabilia on sale. 240 hits just for Swastika. Is Ebay a hate group ? Surely since they have Swastikas for sale they are a Neo-Nazi skin head group right ? :rofl::rofl:

I do stand by my statement that I would be a lot safer at Knob Creek with an Obama shirt than in an inner city Chicago neighborhood with a Romney shirt on. You go ahead and take that bet. Heck for that matter just go to an inner city political rally with a Romney shirt on and let me know how that works out for you ?

You talk about others using stereotypes but you are obviously implying that everyone in inner city Chicago is a violent black Obama supporter. I've never been but I'd bet a million dollars that's not true!

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Your off the chain. I don't think all black people are that string of stereotypes you just hurled, and I never said anything about black people, so why do you throw that out. Maybe in your mind that is a stereotype, but not mine for sure. I don't need spin control, because I know the truth.

Let me ask you this Hot Rod ? Ebay has well over 1000 Nazi memorabilia on sale. 240 hits just for Swastika. Is Ebay a hate group ? Surely since they have Swastikas for sale they are a Neo-Nazi skin head group right ? :rofl::rofl:

I do stand by my statement that I would be a lot safer at Knob Creek with an Obama shirt than in an inner city Chicago neighborhood with a Romney shirt on. You go ahead and take that bet. Heck for that matter just go to an inner city political rally with a Romney shirt on and let me know how that works out for you ?

I'm sorry, I just googled crack head and I was surprised to see more white people than black so I will concede to you on that on. Where I'm from that's used to describe us as a whole.

But on this Nazi thing, Ebay, really? Try finding it in main stream usa, it's offensive as hell. How can you say it's not racist, did you click on the link Karl Marx posted? Comparing Obama to Hitler, the Muslim Divorce Kit?

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That's weird, I spent 3 years living in Wurzburg, Germany when I was stationed there back in 1997. My first wife was German, so I had a lot of exposure to that particular culture, do you know how many artifacts and memorabilia I saw when I was there? None, because most of the population was ashamed of what transpired back then. It was a dark time in their history, so it tends to be a sore subject. The one time I saw a guy wearing a jacket with the Nazi symbol wasn't a historian wanting to learn more about that period, his head was shaved and he said something in German that my wife at the time wouldn't repeat to me. So this whole you can wear the uniform and not be associated with the beliefs is far fetched at best. There are so many other artifacts associated with WW2, why would someone focus on just that part of history. By you logic, if this was true then you could sell this stuff and no one would get in trouble. But there is a reason why you don't see it at regular stores, the message it carries with it.

I have no problems with guns, I've shot the M16A2, M203, SAW, 9mm, and AT-4. But when I see the bumper stickers in the background, plus the guy who posted this might as well have said f*** Obama, makes you wonder...

It is against the law to sell it so you did not see it.It is for sale all over Germany.

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Your absurd. They don't just focus on that part of History. You will also see Vietnam war paraphernalia, Korean etc.

Also this event is not in Germany it's in the USA.

The Discovery channel shows films all the time with Nazi's in them. Does that make them Nazi's.

Your just flat wrong. You proposing those events are even remotely Pro-Nazi or Racist is silly, childish and factually impotent.

Here is the difference, they aren't painting our Commander in Chief as Hitler, or the 4th Reich as one guy had on his T-shirt. And you wonder why there isn't any diversity at these things? Kids wearing SS uniforms? I can't make this stuff up, it's hateful and offensive, maybe you see it differently but how about you post one of these with some diversity in them. Then we can talk.

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"Oppressive language does more than represent violence; it is violence; does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge." -Toni Morrison

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.

Martin Luther King, Jr.

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It is against the law to sell it so you did not see it.It is for sale all over Germany.

Being against the law would have something to do with it, all I am saying is there is a reason why you can't buy this stuff main stream. I never saw a store carrying it and I was downtown quite a bit. Maybe off the beaten path perhaps....

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"Oppressive language does more than represent violence; it is violence; does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge." -Toni Morrison

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.

Martin Luther King, Jr.

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Here is the difference, they aren't painting our Commander in Chief as Hitler, or the 4th Reich as one guy had on his T-shirt. And you wonder why there isn't any diversity at these things? Kids wearing SS uniforms? I can't make this stuff up, it's hateful and offensive, maybe you see it differently but how about you post one of these with some diversity in them. Then we can talk.

Iv'e been to a few shootings and those right wing extremist are a very very small minority of who shows up for those events. On the other hand there were a large number of protesters during the Occupy Movement that wore Soviet USSR shirts. Anyone with a knowledge of that part of history knows that Stalin and the Bolsheviks were responsible for almost double the amounts of deaths than was Hitler. So as you can see it works both ways. It doesn't make either one right, but it is what it is and for anyone who has been to those shooting events knows that most of the people attending those events look at those extremist as back yard nut cases.

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Here is the difference, they aren't painting our Commander in Chief as Hitler, or the 4th Reich as one guy had on his T-shirt. And you wonder why there isn't any diversity at these things? Kids wearing SS uniforms? I can't make this stuff up, it's hateful and offensive, maybe you see it differently but how about you post one of these with some diversity in them. Then we can talk.

That moniker is not unique to Obama.

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It is against the law to sell it so you did not see it.It is for sale all over Germany.

it's against the law in germany to sell nazi material.

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it's against the law in germany to sell nazi material.

Correct....If you talked to the right persons in any town in Germany you will be able to buy anything you want. Crack is against the law here so you cannot find it for sale in almost any town in america?????There is a demand and it is for sale. (nazi material)

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Correct....If you talked to the right persons in any town in Germany you will be able to buy anything you want. Crack is against the law here so you cannot find it for sale in almost any town in america?????There is a demand and it is for sale. (nazi material)

I imagine some of it is still being manufactured, just for the tourists. Just my imagination working, based on what other contraband I have seen in other areas around the world, in spots frequented by unsuspecting tourists, even here in the US.

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I'm sorry, I just googled crack head and I was surprised to see more white people than black so I will concede to you on that on. Where I'm from that's used to describe us as a whole.

But on this Nazi thing, Ebay, really? Try finding it in main stream usa, it's offensive as hell. How can you say it's not racist, did you click on the link Karl Marx posted? Comparing Obama to Hitler, the Muslim Divorce Kit?

WW2 memorabilia is not Racist. They have Nazi paraphernalia on Display at the holocaust Museum for gods sake. It's History.

Why do you keep talking about Black's. No one has mentioned them at all.

 

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