Gallup: 3.4% of Americans are LGBT. 8% of women aged 18-29 are LGBT.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

I am just speaking on Personal experience. My best friend's wife has been known to do that, I think she thrives on the attention and approval she gets. When I was single 4 different women i went out with, made out with her at some point to varying degrees. I never really planned on getting serious with any of them so, I was like what the hey huh ? Certainly something I would never approve of with a woman I cared about. I have strong values and morals about such things.

So do I.

I am a strong believer that two people in a marriage relationship need to commit to each other for life in ways that they CAN commit to. Committing instead to a set of values created by someone else can end badly when it is not the intention of one or both to truly commit to that. If you made a list of all the things most important to you about your wife, would "She will never have sex with anyone else in her whole life" be on that list?

But hey, whatever works for BOTH of you is fine. The problem with "cheaters" and there should never be cheating because it breaks a universal value...trust, is that they must LIE to cover what they are doing. On the other hand if one can be clear about needs and desires up front and everyone is on board and we are all adults...what is the problem? To say you have "morals" and someone else does not is...immoral. Your values may be different than ours, but thrusting that on others is not correct. Why should a person that truly loves sex with, say, multiple partners be in a marriage where they are told they cannot do that? How can they be? Will they ever be happy? Will they ever lie in order to do what they want? Will they be more commited to their partner if they are denied what brings them pleasure?

On the other hand, imagine a woman that wants to be commited to someone, wants to have a family, raise children, have a home, a garden and flowers...but she enjoys an enthusiastic and flexible sex life and is totally comfortable with her sexuality...she meets a man and they agree that she can do this and the two of them are truly happy together. Now, where is THAT woman going to go? Because most men are like you...they will gladly have the sex with a flexible woman but would shut it down in a heartbeat if they were married to that woman. The man that can commit to her and also enjoys such things is GOLD. One in a million. A partner for life she has been searching the whole world for. People CAN want both you know...a partner for life AND multiple sex partners because sex is fun. Sex is NOT necessarily commitment. What is the ratio of women you have had sex with to the ones you have commited to? What is it if you lived in Ukraine?

If your rules are that of basketball, "touch only with the hands"...and I want to play soccer, your rules are not going to work for my game. I have to make my own rules that are followed by all the players in the game we are playing. And oddly enough the basic rules, the universal values, in such a game are the SAME as in a monogamous relationship...NO lying, NO cheating, ABSOLUTE devotion and making the other partner the center of your universe. And if there is total honesty and total honesty is accepted, then there is never reason to lie.

Just sayin'. Judge not, lest ye be judged

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

http://news.yahoo.com/relationship-dad-affects-teens-sexual-behavior-184615819.html

Relationship with Daddy Affects Teens' Sexual Behavior

By Karen Rowan, MyHealthNewsDaily Managing Editor | LiveScience.com – 3 hrs ago

Fathers' attitudes toward teen sex and the emotional closeness of their relationship with their teen have a sizeable influence on their teens' sexual behaviors, separate from the influence of moms, a new review of studies suggests.

The review showed that dads' attitudes toward teen sexual behavior were linked to the age at which teens first had sex. Teens whose dads approved of adolescent sexual activity tended to start having sex earlier than teens whose dads did not approve, according to studies in the review.

In addition, teens who were close with their fathers tended to start having sex later, the studies showed.

The findings "suggest that fathers may distinctly influence the sexual behavior of their adolescent children," said study researcher Vincent Guilamo-Ramos, a professor of social work at New York University. "Fathers may parent in ways that differ from mothers, and therefore represent an additional opportunity to support adolescent health and well-being," he said.

A better understanding of the role dads play in their teens' sexual behaviors and reproductive health could help researchers identify which parenting practices have the biggest impact on teens, and lead to better invention strategies that include both moms and dads, the researchers said.

Teens & risky sex

A 2011 national survey conducted by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention showed that 47 percent of high school students had ever had sexual intercourse, and 40 percent of those who were currently sexually active did not use a condom when they last had sex.

Adolescence is generally a time of increased risk-taking, and with sexual activity, such risk-taking can be bad for teens' health, Guilamo-Ramos said. It can lead to sexually transmitted infections and unwanted pregnancy.

Previous studies have linked positive parent-teen relationships with teens' sexual behaviors. For example, researchers have shown that parents who monitor and discipline their teens and communicate with them reduce the risk of their teens being involved in sexually risky behaviors.

However, most studies have focused on the influence of mothers on teens' behaviors.

In the new review, Guilamo-Ramos and colleagues looked at 13 studies of the paternal influence on the behavior of teensbetween ages 11 and 18. The researchers defined "fathers" broadly — they included biological fathers, stepfathers and adoptive fathers, and other men such as uncles or grandfathers who participated as primary male caregivers in teens' lives.

In considering the effect of a dad's general levels of strictness, a few studies showed that teens of both overly restrictive and overly lenient fathers started having sex earlier than teens of moderately strict fathers.

"Fathers who are moderately strict are those that have clear rules, and agreed-upon rational consequences that have been discussed with their teen children," Guilamo-Ramos said. Teens should understand their fathers' expectations, and know the consequences of not following the rules.

But fathers should also discuss with their teens the decisions teens can manage on their own and the areas fathers want input from their teens in making a rule or decision, he said.

Encouraging appropriate levels of teen autonomy and being consistent are important actions for fathers, he said.

The researchers also looked at whether fathers might influence the frequency of teen sex, or a teen's number of sex partners, but found no strong influence of paternal relationships or attitudes, they said. Guilamo-Ramos noted that few of the reviewed studies examined these behaviors, and said more research is needed.

Moms and dads

"Evidence increasingly suggests that mothers and fathers independently shape areas of child development, such as academic success and peer relationships," the researchers wrote in their study, published Monday (Oct. 15) in the journal Pediatrics.

Family-based interventions into teens' sexual behaviors often overlook the role fathers have in helping shape teens' sexual decisions, according to the study.

Much effort has gone into parsing the aspects of mother-teen relationships that prevent teens from engaging in sexually risky behaviors, the researchers said.

"The lack of focus on fathers represents a critical missed opportunity to improve the sexual and reproductive health of teens," Guilamo-Ramos said.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

He is wrong. I assure you.

Trendy, hip, cool, the feeling that when WOMEN hit on you (a woman), then you are REALLY hot because "every man is just a horn-dog, what do you expect? But when a sometimes bi woman throws down on you, oh yeah...you still got it!" And if someone truly has the idea that "sex is just fun" there is not much to choose between the two sexes or why not just both at the same time? Why does one have to choose one or the other? That's called "flexible". I have also heard it called just "hyper sexual" or "try sexual" (Anything sexual, I will try it)

Sly Wolf is just a bit to insulated in his world, wherever that is (not Canada)

it was truly amazing phenomenon. I had always been the sweet attentive trustworthy, lavish attention and respect on a woman kind of Boyfriend. After my divorce, from a(described by our doctor as crazy woman) I just stopped giving a damn for a few years. I pretty much was just into me and my needs. I will not go into details but I was a pig. A bad pig. Bad boy. I could tell stories all of you would swear are false. You could just be joking around about "yall kiss" next thing you know... Wham.

I may catch heck for saying this. However when i got tagged among my peers as a womanizing untrustworthy pig, my dating life went nuclear. It was like women wanted to be part of the trend of something. The old adage, girls like Bad Boys. it is a fact. I don't understand that. I am not much to look at. Never was ladies man, but was always nice and attentive. When I became a pig it was like I gave of a pheromone or something.

Now I got tired of all the free love and girl after girl etc etc and reverted back to good ol joe, settled down and married a wonderful woman I love, respect, honor. I would die for her. I am just sharing a phase i went thru to explain a phenomenon that is often talked about be dismissed.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

I can certainly agree with that. I would have trouble seeing those women as true marriage partners.

So that means more beautiful, hyper sexual women for the men who can accept them and can love them enough to allow them their pleasures. More for the men that can be secure enough to not be threatened by a physical interaction, knowing that commitment is in the mind and soul.

I like your style.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

I guess I'm the only one on here that wants a one month hall pass along with a r/t ticket to Ukraine.

Edited October 18, 2012 by Bad_Daddy

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

So do I.

I am a strong believer that two people in a marriage relationship need to commit to each other for life in ways that they CAN commit to. Committing instead to a set of values created by someone else can end badly when it is not the intention of one or both to truly commit to that. If you made a list of all the things most important to you about your wife, would "She will never have sex with anyone else in her whole life" be on that list?

But hey, whatever works for BOTH of you is fine. The problem with "cheaters" and there should never be cheating because it breaks a universal value...trust, is that they must LIE to cover what they are doing. On the other hand if one can be clear about needs and desires up front and everyone is on board and we are all adults...what is the problem? To say you have "morals" and someone else does not is...immoral. Your values may be different than ours, but thrusting that on others is not correct. Why should a person that truly loves sex with, say, multiple partners be in a marriage where they are told they cannot do that? How can they be? Will they ever be happy? Will they ever lie in order to do what they want? Will they be more commited to their partner if they are denied what brings them pleasure?

On the other hand, imagine a woman that wants to be commited to someone, wants to have a family, raise children, have a home, a garden and flowers...but she enjoys an enthusiastic and flexible sex life and is totally comfortable with her sexuality...she meets a man and they agree that she can do this and the two of them are truly happy together. Now, where is THAT woman going to go? Because most men are like you...they will gladly have the sex with a flexible woman but would shut it down in a heartbeat if they were married to that woman. The man that can commit to her and also enjoys such things is GOLD. One in a million. A partner for life she has been searching the whole world for. People CAN want both you know...a partner for life AND multiple sex partners because sex is fun. Sex is NOT necessarily commitment. What is the ratio of women you have had sex with to the ones you have commited to? What is it if you lived in Ukraine?

If your rules are that of basketball, "touch only with the hands"...and I want to play soccer, your rules are not going to work for my game. I have to make my own rules that are followed by all the players in the game we are playing. And oddly enough the basic rules, the universal values, in such a game are the SAME as in a monogamous relationship...NO lying, NO cheating, ABSOLUTE devotion and making the other partner the center of your universe. And if there is total honesty and total honesty is accepted, then there is never reason to lie.

Just sayin'. Judge not, lest ye be judged

Agree. Like I said what worked for my buddy and his wife works for them. They seem to do well. he has no problem with it. I was single so I was like... UH Heck Yes. Now that I am in love and have met the perfect woman. To be totally honest other women do not even appeal to me anymore. That's the gods honest truth. I think if you love that deeply it happens. At least for me it has.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Agree. Like I said what worked for my buddy and his wife works for them. They seem to do well. he has no problem with it. I was single so I was like... UH Heck Yes. Now that I am in love and have met the perfect woman. To be totally honest other women do not even appeal to me anymore. That's the gods honest truth. I think if you love that deeply it happens. At least for me it has.

I think so also, but it is your choice. You love your wife deeply, I do not doubt that. So what if she comes to you and says she wants to have sex wth another...person...just for fun, and remain commited/married/in love with you? How much do you love her? However, I think these things need to be discussed before marriage if possible.

I guess I'm the only one on here that wants a one month hall pass along with a r/t ticket to Ukraine.

Why a hall pass?

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

I think so also, but it is your choice. You love your wife deeply, I do not doubt that. So what if she comes to you and says she wants to have sex wth another...person...just for fun, and remain commited/married/in love with you? How much do you love her? However, I think these things need to be discussed before marriage if possible.

I would think a lot of it depends on if the wife wanted to include her husband.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Why a hall pass?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hall_Pass

Hall Pass

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

I think so also, but it is your choice. You love your wife deeply, I do not doubt that. So what if she comes to you and says she wants to have sex wth another...person...just for fun, and remain commited/married/in love with you? How much do you love her? However, I think these things need to be discussed before marriage if possible.

Why a hall pass?

I just don't think I could ever deal with another man touching something I love and respect so much. I know some that have done that, and almost every time just for fun lead to a boat load of problems. Just not for me.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

I think so also, but it is your choice. You love your wife deeply, I do not doubt that. So what if she comes to you and says she wants to have sex wth another...person...just for fun, and remain commited/married/in love with you? How much do you love her? However, I think these things need to be discussed before marriage if possible.

Why a hall pass?

I just don't think I could ever deal with another man touching something I love and respect so much. I know some that have done that, and almost every time just for fun lead to a boat load of problems. Just not for me.

Agreed. I couldn't stand that thought of my wife having sex with another guy.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Agreed. I couldn't stand that thought of my wife having sex with another guy.

Are you afraid you might not measure up any longer?

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Are you afraid you might not measure up any longer?

:bonk::bonk::bonk: and one more time for good measure

Opps was that a pun

Seriously Is thier a group of men in here that would be ok with their wife being with another man ???. That has to be a very small percentage that would be ok with that.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Are you afraid you might not measure up any longer?

Your a bad patriot. Bad, bad, bad!

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Your a bad patriot. Bad, bad, bad!

But he was funny. Give him points for that.

Agreed. I couldn't stand that thought of my wife having sex with another guy.

Agree..... another guy...