Gallup: 3.4% of Americans are LGBT. 8% of women aged 18-29 are LGBT.

[OnMyWayID 1,489]

Opps...

Well since Lesbian is the topic..

Honestly guys. How many different times have you been present when 2 girls hooked up and made out ?

meh.. no children and wife is into it.. so birthdays, vacations, and occasionally when she is in the mood

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

meh.. no children and wife is into it.. so birthdays, vacations, and occasionally when she is in the mood

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Um, you mean ever? What do you mean exactly? Can you rephrase the question?

I mean ever and I mean not the same participates each time. There has to be a new participate for it to count as a unique time.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Does that include live sex shows? Do you have to be invited into the room, or does it include just catching them in the act? What do you consider "making out"? Are deep probing kisses enough, or do you require something more?

well I am trying to keep it PG-13. No sex show does not count. It has to be you are participate with at least one of the persons involved, there has to be nudity, and the subjects have to at least kiss and make out.

[Love's JAA 100]

This is a great topic for an immigration advice website. Now the feds will think we just have a bunch of guys on here looking to see how they can fulfill there menage trois fantasies.

[Ban Hammer 13,567]

This is a great topic for an immigration advice website.

it's in the p&r subforum, which has nothing to do with immigration.

[OnMyWayID 1,489]

This is a great topic for an immigration advice website. Now the feds will think we just have a bunch of guys on here looking to see how they can fulfill there menage trois fantasies.

Color me shocked.. Relax it will be gone soon enough... And "the feds?" You mean like the Presidents protection detail in Colombia? I am pretty sure I know their stance on the subject. Of course it could be that "the feds" are more concerned with illegals, terrorists, true fraudsters, etc to worry about people mentioning something dealing with lite kink... As you hopefully read previously in this thread, it is not the reason I am with her, but it is a really cool attribute.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

This is a great topic for an immigration advice website. Now the feds will think we just have a bunch of guys on here looking to see how they can fulfill there menage trois fantasies.

And what about the women? Just because their not on here posting about it doesn't mean they aren't thinking and/or doing it. Their just more subtle about it is all.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

I mean ever and I mean not the same participates each time. There has to be a new participate for it to count as a unique time.

Despite what the CABA wolf pack would have you believe, I have never discussed the details of our sex life, yes, Alla sleeps naked. So what? Some funny instances which occur in homes occupied by married couples with children...hey, who hasn't been caught in the act? So what? People in secure relationships can laugh at that because it happens to them too. Better that the children not hear arguing, bad words, see drunk parents...shall I continue?

I will say that we have been very open and honest about needs, desires and interests in that area so there is no need for lying, hiding, etc. And there is a genuine desire on both our parts to please the other. (those that think RUB women only want to be submissives who please their husband and it is not a two way street are simply ignorant) We are also both very secure in our marriage. Enough that I truly say that couples need to commit to each other and not to vows manufactured by someone else for their own agenda and I strongly believe in the rights of consenting adults to do as they please sexually as long as no one is getting hurt. If people are committing to something that is impossible for them to commit to, then why bother? How can they? Why would they? The refreshing thing about RUB women is their honesty and directness..."here is how it is..."

The rules for successful marriage, in my opinion, are the same. No lying, no dishonesty, devotion to the family and spouse. Unlike OnMyWayID, we do have children and they do not need to know everything and it does not all need to occur in the home. In case you ever have kids, OnMyWay...

One reason I do support the rights of Gays and Lesbians (whatever) to marry is that I know that I do not want people judging what we do in the bedroom which would not meet with many of the same people's approval. No one is hurt and they choose to be there voluntarily.

Many people disapprove of marriages to foreign spouses, interacial marriage, whatever. Shall we make a list and make sure no one is offended by our choices? Or can we just live and have fun and do what we choose without hurting anyone? Live and let live. As long as no one is hurt and we all care for our responsibilities...who cares?

That really doesn't answer the question does it?

RUB women appreciate things of lasting value. Good hair, flat stomachs, etc. do not make the list. Even handsome looks are several clicks down the list behind devotion, committment, comfort, family, and when they can find one that can commit to them and all their needs, then what would I have to worry about?

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

This is a great topic for an immigration advice website. Now the feds will think we just have a bunch of guys on here looking to see how they can fulfill there menage trois fantasies.

OK Herschel, mark down a big -0- for Love's JAA

You think the feds care about our menage a trois's? Wouldn't be anything they haven't already seen on their spy satellites and Alla is a citizen now...they didn't even ask about that, can you imagine?

Color me shocked.. Relax it will be gone soon enough... And "the feds?" You mean like the Presidents protection detail in Colombia? I am pretty sure I know their stance on the subject. Of course it could be that "the feds" are more concerned with illegals, terrorists, true fraudsters, etc to worry about people mentioning something dealing with lite kink... As you hopefully read previously in this thread, it is not the reason I am with her, but it is a really cool attribute.

The ultimate accessory.

Edited October 20, 2012 by Gary and Alla

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

well I am trying to keep it PG-13. No sex show does not count. It has to be you are participate with at least one of the persons involved, there has to be nudity, and the subjects have to at least kiss and make out.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Despite what the CABA wolf pack would have you believe, I have never discussed the details of our sex life, yes, Alla sleeps naked. So what? Some funny instances which occur in homes occupied by married couples with children...hey, who hasn't been caught in the act? So what? People in secure relationships can laugh at that because it happens to them too. Better that the children not hear arguing, bad words, see drunk parents...shall I continue?

I will say that we have been very open and honest about needs, desires and interests in that area so there is no need for lying, hiding, etc. And there is a genuine desire on both our parts to please the other. (those that think RUB women only want to be submissives who please their husband and it is not a two way street are simply ignorant) We are also both very secure in our marriage. Enough that I truly say that couples need to commit to each other and not to vows manufactured by someone else for their own agenda and I strongly believe in the rights of consenting adults to do as they please sexually as long as no one is getting hurt. If people are committing to something that is impossible for them to commit to, then why bother? How can they? Why would they? The refreshing thing about RUB women is their honesty and directness..."here is how it is..."

The rules for successful marriage, in my opinion, are the same. No lying, no dishonesty, devotion to the family and spouse. Unlike OnMyWayID, we do have children and they do not need to know everything and it does not all need to occur in the home. In case you ever have kids, OnMyWay...

One reason I do support the rights of Gays and Lesbians (whatever) to marry is that I know that I do not want people judging what we do in the bedroom which would not meet with many of the same people's approval. No one is hurt and they choose to be there voluntarily.

Many people disapprove of marriages to foreign spouses, interacial marriage, whatever. Shall we make a list and make sure no one is offended by our choices? Or can we just live and have fun and do what we choose without hurting anyone? Live and let live. As long as no one is hurt and we all care for our responsibilities...who cares?

That really doesn't answer the question does it?

RUB women appreciate things of lasting value. Good hair, flat stomachs, etc. do not make the list. Even handsome looks are several clicks down the list behind devotion, committment, comfort, family, and when they can find one that can commit to them and all their needs, then what would I have to worry about?

Good Post. I never understood why someone can get so upset about someones sex life. Probably has to do more with thier lack of it.

Just want to go on the record as saying I am talking in all aspects about the past tense. I am a very happy monogamous person now.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Good Post. I never understood why someone can get so upset about someones sex life. Probably has to do more with thier lack of it.

Just want to go on the record as saying I am talking in all aspects about the past tense. I am a very happy monogamous person now.

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Good for you. I was not. We are an exceedingly happy, devoted and committed couple for whom each other and our children are the most important things in the world. We made an agreement that we can both commit to for life and actually feel very lucky that we each met a person that can...accomodate. We also each have a spouse that we CAN be honest with about all things. There is no NEED to lie and it is like having Diplomatic immunity or something. It is fantastic! Perhaps not for everyone. Danno may not be able to handle it forexample because we leave the lights on and stuff...but the principal of commiting to something you CAN commit to and creating a relationship where lies are never needed is pretty sound, I think.

Think about it. What is the ONE thing most people would lie to their spouse about? Sex. If you can be honest about sex, why would you lie about ...what?

Edited October 21, 2012 by Gary and Alla

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

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Good for you. I was not. We are an exceedingly happy, devoted and committed couple for whom each other and our children are the most important things in the world. We made an agreement that we can both commit to for life and actually feel very lucky that we each met a person that can...accomodate. We also each have a spouse that we CAN be honest with about all things. There is no NEED to lie and it is like having Diplomatic immunity or something. It is fantastic! Perhaps not for everyone. Danno may not be able to handle it forexample because we leave the lights on and stuff...but the principal of commiting to something you CAN commit to and creating a relationship where lies are never needed is pretty sound, I think.

Think about it. What is the ONE thing most people would lie to their spouse about? Sex. If you can be honest about sex, why would you lie about ...what?

I disagree. I think the only thing I have ever lied to my wife about is what chapped to her chocolate chip cookies. :rofl:

Your right.. I was just adding that disclaimer in case some mutual friends read this thread and dropped her a line....