Of all the Bull spewed by both sides

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

I think the number 1 items that I find really stupid . 1 from the right and one from the left

1.Left-- Obama is not responsible for his Economic disaster even though almost everyone of his numbers are worse than Bush. If your still blaming Bush after 4 years your either stupid blind or both. Obama knew the economy when he campaigned. He promised to fix it. He made it worse. Those are facts.

2. Right- If one more right winger says Obama is not responsible for killing Bin Landen I am going to scream. Yes we understand the Seals did the hard part and the get credit also, but Obama gave the order, approved the Mission, and for sure if it had failed his fate as a1 term President would be sealed. It was his ultimate responsibility and it saddened me when some of my fellow conservatives played politics with that moment. In an analogy it's like wining the National BCS Championship, and saying the coach had nothing to do with it, it was the players that won. Carter was responsible for failed rescue fiasco and Obama is responsible for killing Bin Laden. It's the way the it works.

[Obama 2012 1,714]

I think the number 1 items that I find really stupid . 1 from the right and one from the left

1.Left-- Obama is not responsible for his Economic disaster even though almost everyone of his numbers are worse than Bush. If your still blaming Bush after 4 years your either stupid blind or both. Obama knew the economy when he campaigned. He promised to fix it. He made it worse. Those are facts.

2. Right- If one more right winger says Obama is not responsible for killing Bin Landen I am going to scream. Yes we understand the Seals did the hard part and the get credit also, but Obama gave the order, approved the Mission, and for sure if it had failed his fate as a1 term President would be sealed. It was his ultimate responsibility and it saddened me when some of my fellow conservatives played politics with that moment. In an analogy it's like wining the National BCS Championship, and saying the coach had nothing to do with it, it was the players that won. Carter was responsible for failed rescue fiasco and Obama is responsible for killing Bin Laden. It's the way the it works.

That's if one thinks Osama was killed that day.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

I think the number 1 items that I find really stupid . 1 from the right and one from the left

1.Left-- Obama is not responsible for his Economic disaster even though almost everyone of his numbers are worse than Bush. If your still blaming Bush after 4 years your either stupid blind or both. Obama knew the economy when he campaigned. He promised to fix it. He made it worse. Those are facts.

I personally believe that regardless of who was President, these last four years would have played out almost the same. Obama deserves his share of responsibility, of course. There's no doubt. He's the President, the buck stops with him. Just as it's unfair to place all the blame on Bush, it's equally unfair to absolve him of any responsibility.

[Obama 2012 1,714]

I personally believe that regardless of who was President, these last four years would have played out almost the same. Obama deserves his share of responsibility, of course. There's no doubt. He's the President, the buck stops with him. Just as it's unfair to place all the blame on Bush, it's equally unfair to absolve him of any responsibility.

Both are equally guilty of signing bills that continued wreckless spending...

However when it comes to passing budgets, new tax codes, etc... that's on the shoulders of congress. They haven't passed an actual budget in around 3 years! It's unheard of and why we can't have a 'real' recovery.

[Darnell 8,479]

Sorry, Congress (mostly) doesn't want to do what The Kenyan wants/ed .

I know watching cSpan can be boring for most, but the morning show is really nice

[decocker 7,198]

That's if one thinks Osama was killed that day.

this.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Both are equally guilty of signing bills that continued wreckless spending...

However when it comes to passing budgets, new tax codes, etc... that's on the shoulders of congress. They haven't passed an actual budget in around 3 years! It's unheard of and why we can't have a 'real' recovery.

That's a new one. So now it's the fault of Congress. Funny how they the deficit and debt keep growing and congress passes no bills. Interesting You do know economic growth slowed to 1.5% last quarter. 2011 was worse than 2010.Just keep blaming Bush.

[slim 1,533]

I wonder why Obama calls the socialist medical tax "Obamacare" but the huge tax cuts for the wealthy - that he extended - are still being referred to as the "Bush" tax cuts. Even last night in the debate he mentioned them but failed (inexplicably!) to take credit for extending them. Why is that?

On the bin Laden thing, the reason why righties won't give him credit for killing bin Laden is because he won't give righties credit for building their own businesses. "Someone else did that."

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

I personally believe that regardless of who was President, these last four years would have played out almost the same. Obama deserves his share of responsibility, of course. There's no doubt. He's the President, the buck stops with him. Just as it's unfair to place all the blame on Bush, it's equally unfair to absolve him of any responsibility.

Ahh so your voting for change this year ? Never thought you to be a Romney gal. Bush is certainly responsible for the things he did, no one is absolving him of blame. The thing is he has not been president in 4 years. Regardless of the fact you believe it would have played this way, Obama said he could fix it. He promised to cut the debt, he promised to lower insurance to middle class families, He said Bush was unpatriotic and irresponsible for adding 4 trillion in debt in 8 years he has added 5 in under 4 years. He spoke of "oilmen in the white house" when attacking gas prices that where 1/2 what they are now. He criticized Bush for 5.6% unemployment but has had unemployment over 8% longer than any president in history.

So yes Bush was not a good president . However if you judge Obama by the same standards he judged Bush by and by his own words, Obama has performed way worse.

So any of you would keep Obama why ??

Ok Liberals once in for all """"BUSH SUCKED"... However by the standards you judged bush "OBAMA SUCKS EVEN WORSE" Maybe Mitt is full of it and won't fix doodley squat. we don't know. However we do know for a fact Obama sure did not. These are facts.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

I think the number 1 items that I find really stupid . 1 from the right and one from the left

1.Left-- Obama is not responsible for his Economic disaster even though almost everyone of his numbers are worse than Bush. If your still blaming Bush after 4 years your either stupid blind or both. Obama knew the economy when he campaigned. He promised to fix it. He made it worse. Those are facts.

2. Right- If one more right winger says Obama is not responsible for killing Bin Landen I am going to scream. Yes we understand the Seals did the hard part and the get credit also, but Obama gave the order, approved the Mission, and for sure if it had failed his fate as a1 term President would be sealed. It was his ultimate responsibility and it saddened me when some of my fellow conservatives played politics with that moment. In an analogy it's like wining the National BCS Championship, and saying the coach had nothing to do with it, it was the players that won. Carter was responsible for failed rescue fiasco and Obama is responsible for killing Bin Laden. It's the way the it works.

1. I usually just agree that it was Bush's fault and then point out that we elected Obama to fix it. He did not. Works every time. They become apoplectic. Just watch.

2. Agreed. I also like to point out that Bill Clinton COULD have killed Osama Bin Laden before 9/11 and did not, requiring Obama to do it after 3000 more innocent Americans were killed. I usually give Obama credit for cleaning up Clinton's mess on this one.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

1. I usually just agree that it was Bush's fault and then point out that we elected Obama to fix it. He did not. Works every time. They become apoplectic. Just watch.

2. Agreed. I also like to point out that Bill Clinton COULD have killed Osama Bin Laden before 9/11 and did not, requiring Obama to do it after 3000 more innocent Americans were killed. I usually give Obama credit for cleaning up Clinton's mess on this one.

I agree but because Clinton was a Wuss it is not fair to tarnish what Obama did, Don't forget we had a Pub in the white house 8 years in between.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Ahh so your voting for change this year ? Never thought you to be a Romney gal. Bush is certainly responsible for the things he did, no one is absolving him of blame. The thing is he has not been president in 4 years. Regardless of the fact you believe it would have played this way, Obama said he could fix it. He promised to cut the debt, he promised to lower insurance to middle class families, He said Bush was unpatriotic and irresponsible for adding 4 trillion in debt in 8 years he has added 5 in under 4 years. He spoke of "oilmen in the white house" when attacking gas prices that where 1/2 what they are now. He criticized Bush for 5.6% unemployment but has had unemployment over 8% longer than any president in history.

So yes Bush was not a good president . However if you judge Obama by the same standards he judged Bush by and by his own words, Obama has performed way worse.

So any of you would keep Obama why ??

Ok Liberals once in for all """"BUSH SUCKED"... However by the standards you judged bush "OBAMA SUCKS EVEN WORSE" Maybe Mitt is full of it and won't fix doodley squat. we don't know. However we do know for a fact Obama sure did not. These are facts.

I've explained, in detail, why I would vote for Obama if I could. I don't have the energy to post it all over again.

To put it very, very simply ... Obama's ideal America matches my idea of an ideal America. He has values that I agree with and respect.

I could not, and would not, vote for a candidate like Romney who clearly cares so little about the citizens of the country he wants to lead. The way he talks about women is disgusting. That's enough to turn me off.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

I've explained, in detail, why I would vote for Obama if I could. I don't have the energy to post it all over again.

To put it very, very simply ... Obama's ideal America matches my idea of an ideal America. He has values that I agree with and respect.

I could not, and would not, vote for a candidate like Romney who clearly cares so little about the citizens of the country he wants to lead. The way he talks about women is disgusting. That's enough to turn me off.

Not trying to be rude, but Obama's vision for America. Do you mean the one he talks about or reality ? The man has been disaster. Women and Minorities are worse in almost all categories than 4 years ago. The only people better off under Obama are the wealthy. That is reality.

As for how Mitt talks about Women. Do what ?? What in the world has Mitt said derogatory about Women... ? Your kidding right ?

I mean you feel how you feel and I respect that but it's not based on any facts. The middle class has taken a beating under Obama. How is that caring about our people. Obama has put a burden on our future generations that is crippling. Gas is almost 4 dollars a gallon Twice as many soldiers have died in Afghanistan in Obama 3.5 years as GWB's 8. How is that caring for people. . I am sorry facts and reality don't match

Edited October 18, 2012 by Run Herschel Run

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

I've explained, in detail, why I would vote for Obama if I could. I don't have the energy to post it all over again.

To put it very, very simply ... Obama's ideal America matches my idea of an ideal America. He has values that I agree with and respect.

I could not, and would not, vote for a candidate like Romney who clearly cares so little about the citizens of the country he wants to lead. The way he talks about women is disgusting. That's enough to turn me off.

Does Canada's version of America match your vision of America?

[Obama 2012 1,714]

I've explained, in detail, why I would vote for Obama if I could. I don't have the energy to post it all over again.

To put it very, very simply ... Obama's ideal America matches my idea of an ideal America. He has values that I agree with and respect.

I could not, and would not, vote for a candidate like Romney who clearly cares so little about the citizens of the country he wants to lead. The way he talks about women is disgusting. That's enough to turn me off.

Values? :rofl: :rofl:

Obama has values?? :rofl:

You REALLY need to learn who he really is and stop looking at the mask.