Affidavit of support problem

[Phil_NUFC 0]

Hi guys,

I was wondering about the I-134 Affidavit of support. As my fiancee (US citizen) is currenly umemployed as she is 17 and currenly at an Eating Dissorder clinic. Her grandma, who she lives with, has said she will be her co-sponsor and I've checked with her and she earns over $25,000 so can support her, my fiancee's father who also lives in the house, my fiance and myself. I've heard that both my fiancee and her grandma as the co-sponsor both need to fill our seperate I-134's, is this true? As my fiance is currently unemployed, has no bank account and no savings, what would be the point in filling out an I-134? What would she put on it?

Her grandma, earns part of her $25,000 from her job and the other from her Social Security, is this going to be a problem? Where would this be put on the I-134?

With regards to question 11 on the I-134 which asks if the person filling out the form intents to make specific contributions to support the person stated in question 3 (which would be me? or when her grandma fills it out would that be my US fiancee? But then when my US fiancee fills it out would that be me? confusing, or is it just me?? lol) or not to make contributions, what is normally put for this?? By earning the money she does, she could support us for a small amount of time, but we has planned on moving to be nearer to my US fiancee's mom. So what would my fiancee/fiancee's grandma put here? My finacee has no money to speak of so she would probably has to put that she does not intent to, but her grandma can, although she won't be as we will be moving after we get married. So it would look BAD if her grandma checked the "do not intent" box, so should she say that she will be giving us say $200 a week for board and food for 3 months?

Oh, one final thing. With my US fiancee being at an Eating Disorder clinic, I know I can mail the form to her to fill in, sign and mail off to myself, but needs to be how is she going to get it notorized? Could she mail it to her grandma, who could get it done by a Doc or at a bank or something (not sure where to get them done in the US as I'm from England), then her grandma can mail it to me. Or does my fiancee have to be present when the form is notorized? Possibly in which case she could get someone from the clinic to do it, one of the psychiatrists or possibly go to the hospital next door and get a doc from there to do it.

Any help would be most appreciated!

Regards,

Phil

[YuAndDan 153]

Your fiance(e) needs to fill out an I-134 even though she has no income.

[luv2uallday 1]

I hate to sound mean and cruel.. But i am gonna post something that is HONEST..

you are almost 24 yrs old she is 17 yrs old. can't you find somene of LEGAL age to date? I don't think we should help or support anyone who is pursuing uderage children.... I hope and pray your visa is denied. That you are forced to be seperate or at least till she is OF LEGAL AGE... when did you meet her? when she was 15 or 16? I think you are sick. have a nice day. I do hope and pray she will recover from her illness. cause cause it is a hard road to travel on... take my advice look for women not girlz...

Hi guys,

I was wondering about the I-134 Affidavit of support. As my fiancee (US citizen) is currenly umemployed as she is 17 and currenly at an Eating Dissorder clinic. Her grandma, who she lives with, has said she will be her co-sponsor and I've checked with her and she earns over $25,000 so can support her, my fiancee's father who also lives in the house, my fiance and myself. I've heard that both my fiancee and her grandma as the co-sponsor both need to fill our seperate I-134's, is this true? As my fiance is currently unemployed, has no bank account and no savings, what would be the point in filling out an I-134? What would she put on it?

Her grandma, earns part of her $25,000 from her job and the other from her Social Security, is this going to be a problem? Where would this be put on the I-134?

With regards to question 11 on the I-134 which asks if the person filling out the form intents to make specific contributions to support the person stated in question 3 (which would be me? or when her grandma fills it out would that be my US fiancee? But then when my US fiancee fills it out would that be me? confusing, or is it just me?? lol) or not to make contributions, what is normally put for this?? By earning the money she does, she could support us for a small amount of time, but we has planned on moving to be nearer to my US fiancee's mom. So what would my fiancee/fiancee's grandma put here? My finacee has no money to speak of so she would probably has to put that she does not intent to, but her grandma can, although she won't be as we will be moving after we get married. So it would look BAD if her grandma checked the "do not intent" box, so should she say that she will be giving us say $200 a week for board and food for 3 months?

Oh, one final thing. With my US fiancee being at an Eating Disorder clinic, I know I can mail the form to her to fill in, sign and mail off to myself, but needs to be how is she going to get it notorized? Could she mail it to her grandma, who could get it done by a Doc or at a bank or something (not sure where to get them done in the US as I'm from England), then her grandma can mail it to me. Or does my fiancee have to be present when the form is notorized? Possibly in which case she could get someone from the clinic to do it, one of the psychiatrists or possibly go to the hospital next door and get a doc from there to do it.

Any help would be most appreciated!

Regards,

Phil

[Phil_NUFC 0]

I hate to sound mean and cruel.. But i am gonna post something that is HONEST..

you are almost 24 yrs old she is 17 yrs old. can't you find somene of LEGAL age to date? I don't think we should help or support anyone who is pursuing uderage children.... I hope and pray your visa is denied. That you are forced to be seperate or at least till she is OF LEGAL AGE... when did you meet her? when she was 15 or 16? I think you are sick. have a nice day. I do hope and pray she will recover from her illness. cause cause it is a hard road to travel on... take my advice look for women not girlz...

Wow, errrm, yeah that was honest, not helpful regarding my questions, but honest!

To answer you, my fiancee's entire family together with my entire family are all behind us. They have given their full support to the both of us and are very happy for us. Her father has custerdy of her and has given his full permission for us to get married.

To be honest you have no right to lecture me about my relationship, so I suggest we stick to helping me with my questions if you could.

Regards,

Phil

[Canuck Carrie 1]

Phil NUFC,

Welcome to VJ

If you don't want others to comment on your relationship, don't give them any fuel for the fire. Only give out pertinent information to get your question answered.

Good luck.

[caagirl 0]

To answer your question and affidative has to be given from your fiancee and your sponser believe me it hurts when you go in with just the co-sponser form our interiew was the 12th of october and because of not having my affidative we are still waiting for his visa.... oh and one other thing before you do all this paper work I believe I read somewhere where your fiancee has to be 18 the legal age to be able to married you might want to research on that... your fiancee must also write a letter explaining her unemployment and I had to write a letter explaining why I never file for taxes so just a few more things to looked at... Are you both in the states? You might also need to doa wavier because she is not 18 yet... You will have to ask other vj members on that and also check out your information... Welcome to VJ enjoy here you will find lots of help.....Good luck on your journey

sincerly a fiancee in waiting,

Christina

Edited October 30, 2006 by caagirl

[luv2uallday 1]

well in your country it may be of legal age but here it is not..... the legal age is 18 as the last time i checked... and this is a free country.. you have your right to think your way everyone has their right to think the other.. and there is a line here that has been crossed. what you are doing is sick.. its wrong.. and i do have to right to point that out just cause you don't like it doesn't mean you don't have to face it.... Just cause you have support of the family doesn't change the morality of it all.. I saw something utterly disgusting that was posted and you expect me to look the other way? don't think so. until she is of legal age i don't think you deserve our help or our support.... after that age then you can deserve it....

we should not contribute to your perversion. we should condemn it....

Wow, errrm, yeah that was honest, not helpful regarding my questions, but honest!

To answer you, my fiancee's entire family together with my entire family are all behind us. They have given their full support to the both of us and are very happy for us. Her father has custerdy of her and has given his full permission for us to get married.

To be honest you have no right to lecture me about my relationship, so I suggest we stick to helping me with my questions if you could.

Regards,

Phil

I hate to sound mean and cruel.. But i am gonna post something that is HONEST..

you are almost 24 yrs old she is 17 yrs old. can't you find somene of LEGAL age to date? I don't think we should help or support anyone who is pursuing uderage children.... I hope and pray your visa is denied. That you are forced to be seperate or at least till she is OF LEGAL AGE... when did you meet her? when she was 15 or 16? I think you are sick. have a nice day. I do hope and pray she will recover from her illness. cause cause it is a hard road to travel on... take my advice look for women not girlz...

[zethris 0]

well in your country it may be of legal age but here it is not..... the legal age is 18 as the last time i checked... and this is a free country.. you have your right to think your way everyone has their right to think the other.. and there is a line here that has been crossed. what you are doing is sick.. its wrong.. and i do have to right to point that out just cause you don't like it doesn't mean you don't have to face it.... Just cause you have support of the family doesn't change the morality of it all.. I saw something utterly disgusting that was posted and you expect me to look the other way? don't think so. until she is of legal age i don't think you deserve our help or our support.... after that age then you can deserve it....

we should not contribute to your perversion. we should condemn it....

Wow, errrm, yeah that was honest, not helpful regarding my questions, but honest!

To answer you, my fiancee's entire family together with my entire family are all behind us. They have given their full support to the both of us and are very happy for us. Her father has custerdy of her and has given his full permission for us to get married.

To be honest you have no right to lecture me about my relationship, so I suggest we stick to helping me with my questions if you could.

Regards,

Phil

I hate to sound mean and cruel.. But i am gonna post something that is HONEST..

you are almost 24 yrs old she is 17 yrs old. can't you find somene of LEGAL age to date? I don't think we should help or support anyone who is pursuing uderage children.... I hope and pray your visa is denied. That you are forced to be seperate or at least till she is OF LEGAL AGE... when did you meet her? when she was 15 or 16? I think you are sick. have a nice day. I do hope and pray she will recover from her illness. cause cause it is a hard road to travel on... take my advice look for women not girlz...

It's time for someone to get over themselves luv2uallday starting a flame war, or attempting to do so your first shot out the door is not going to be received very warmly, especially on these boards, for when you need help in the future. I suggest you keep your belief system to yourself and call it a day.

Edited October 30, 2006 by zethris

[Phil_NUFC 0]

To answer your question and affidative has to be given from your fiancee and your sponser believe me it hurts when you go in with just the co-sponser form our interiew was the 12th of october and because of not having my affidative we are still waiting for his visa.... oh and one other thing before you do all this paper work I believe I read somewhere where your fiancee has to be 18 the legal age to be able to married you might want to research on that... your fiancee must also write a letter explaining her unemployment and I had to write a letter explaining why I never file for taxes so just a few more things to looked at... Are you both in the states? You might also need to doa wavier because she is not 18 yet... You will have to ask other vj members on that and also check out your information... Welcome to VJ enjoy here you will find lots of help.....Good luck on your journey

sincerly a fiancee in waiting,

Christina

Thanks for your help Christina. I'll make sure to get both my fiancee and her grandma (co-sponsor) to fill in a I-134 each. There is no mention of having to be 18 to file a I-134, so I'm sure it will be fine. Everything has progressed smoothly so far with everything getting approved without delays. The legal age without concent from your parents is indeed 18, but we have a letter from her father giving his concent so it's ok. I'll make sure she types a letter explaining her unemployment and current status.

Many thanks! Most VJers have helped me several times in the past and I'd like to thank them all again, with the exception of luv2uallday who, and I'll quote zethris here if I may, "keep your belief system to yourself and call it a day".

Regards,

Phil

[Yodrak 7]

YuAndDan,

Not necessarily true, particularly in the UK. If the fiancee is not going to be the sponsor then there is no need for them to present a financial sponsorhip package unless the consular officer has some reason to ask for one anyway.

Several people applying for their K visas at the US consular section in London have found that they were not asked for their fiance(e)'s financials, only the financials from the person who was sponsoring them was required.

Yodrak

Your fiance(e) needs to fill out an I-134 even though she has no income.

Christina,

A few experiences in the UK have been different from your experience in India with regard to the need for a financial support package from the US fiance(e) when the US fiance(e) is not going to be the sponsor for the visa. Several K-visa applicants in the UK have found that they did not need to submit financial information from their fiance(e)s.

You have a good point about the age issue.

Yodrak

To answer your question and affidative has to be given from your fiancee and your sponser believe me it hurts when you go in with just the co-sponser form our interiew was the 12th of october and because of not having my affidative we are still waiting for his visa.... oh and one other thing before you do all this paper work I believe I read somewhere where your fiancee has to be 18 the legal age to be able to married you might want to research on that... your fiancee must also write a letter explaining her unemployment and I had to write a letter explaining why I never file for taxes so just a few more things to looked at... Are you both in the states? You might also need to doa wavier because she is not 18 yet... You will have to ask other vj members on that and also check out your information... Welcome to VJ enjoy here you will find lots of help.....Good luck on your journey

sincerly a fiancee in waiting,

Christina

Phil,

I would have an I-134 and other appropriate financial documentation from your fiancee on hand in case it's asked for, but why don't you try submitting only the grandmother's financial information and see what happens. Others who have done this found out that they did not need the fiance(e)s information when someone else was used as the sponsor.

Use an attachment to show the components of grandma's total income.

Looking ahead to your adjustment of status, grandma's income barely meets the requirement. Don't know if that will be a factor for the visa. How substantial are her assets other than the house?

How substantial are your assets?

Yodrak

Hi guys,

I was wondering about the I-134 Affidavit of support. As my fiancee (US citizen) is currenly umemployed as she is 17 and currenly at an Eating Dissorder clinic. Her grandma, who she lives with, has said she will be her co-sponsor and I've checked with her and she earns over $25,000 so can support her, my fiancee's father who also lives in the house, my fiance and myself. I've heard that both my fiancee and her grandma as the co-sponsor both need to fill our seperate I-134's, is this true? As my fiance is currently unemployed, has no bank account and no savings, what would be the point in filling out an I-134? What would she put on it?

Her grandma, earns part of her $25,000 from her job and the other from her Social Security, is this going to be a problem? Where would this be put on the I-134?

With regards to question 11 on the I-134 which asks if the person filling out the form intents to make specific contributions to support the person stated in question 3 (which would be me? or when her grandma fills it out would that be my US fiancee? But then when my US fiancee fills it out would that be me? confusing, or is it just me?? lol) or not to make contributions, what is normally put for this?? By earning the money she does, she could support us for a small amount of time, but we has planned on moving to be nearer to my US fiancee's mom. So what would my fiancee/fiancee's grandma put here? My finacee has no money to speak of so she would probably has to put that she does not intent to, but her grandma can, although she won't be as we will be moving after we get married. So it would look BAD if her grandma checked the "do not intent" box, so should she say that she will be giving us say $200 a week for board and food for 3 months?

Oh, one final thing. With my US fiancee being at an Eating Disorder clinic, I know I can mail the form to her to fill in, sign and mail off to myself, but needs to be how is she going to get it notorized? Could she mail it to her grandma, who could get it done by a Doc or at a bank or something (not sure where to get them done in the US as I'm from England), then her grandma can mail it to me. Or does my fiancee have to be present when the form is notorized? Possibly in which case she could get someone from the clinic to do it, one of the psychiatrists or possibly go to the hospital next door and get a doc from there to do it.

Any help would be most appreciated!

Regards,

Phil

[~*Maria*~ 1]

I hate to sound mean and cruel.. But i am gonna post something that is HONEST..

you are almost 24 yrs old she is 17 yrs old. can't you find somene of LEGAL age to date? I don't think we should help or support anyone who is pursuing uderage children.... I hope and pray your visa is denied. That you are forced to be seperate or at least till she is OF LEGAL AGE... when did you meet her? when she was 15 or 16? I think you are sick. have a nice day. I do hope and pray she will recover from her illness. cause cause it is a hard road to travel on... take my advice look for women not girlz...

Hi guys,

I was wondering about the I-134 Affidavit of support. As my fiancee (US citizen) is currenly umemployed as she is 17 and currenly at an Eating Dissorder clinic. Her grandma, who she lives with, has said she will be her co-sponsor and I've checked with her and she earns over $25,000 so can support her, my fiancee's father who also lives in the house, my fiance and myself. I've heard that both my fiancee and her grandma as the co-sponsor both need to fill our seperate I-134's, is this true? As my fiance is currently unemployed, has no bank account and no savings, what would be the point in filling out an I-134? What would she put on it?

Her grandma, earns part of her $25,000 from her job and the other from her Social Security, is this going to be a problem? Where would this be put on the I-134?

With regards to question 11 on the I-134 which asks if the person filling out the form intents to make specific contributions to support the person stated in question 3 (which would be me? or when her grandma fills it out would that be my US fiancee? But then when my US fiancee fills it out would that be me? confusing, or is it just me?? lol) or not to make contributions, what is normally put for this?? By earning the money she does, she could support us for a small amount of time, but we has planned on moving to be nearer to my US fiancee's mom. So what would my fiancee/fiancee's grandma put here? My finacee has no money to speak of so she would probably has to put that she does not intent to, but her grandma can, although she won't be as we will be moving after we get married. So it would look BAD if her grandma checked the "do not intent" box, so should she say that she will be giving us say $200 a week for board and food for 3 months?

Oh, one final thing. With my US fiancee being at an Eating Disorder clinic, I know I can mail the form to her to fill in, sign and mail off to myself, but needs to be how is she going to get it notorized? Could she mail it to her grandma, who could get it done by a Doc or at a bank or something (not sure where to get them done in the US as I'm from England), then her grandma can mail it to me. Or does my fiancee have to be present when the form is notorized? Possibly in which case she could get someone from the clinic to do it, one of the psychiatrists or possibly go to the hospital next door and get a doc from there to do it.

Any help would be most appreciated!

Regards,

Phil

Sorry to burst yer bubble there luv2uallday but she IS of legal age, especially in UK mate!! The legal age for marriage in UK is 16.

[William33 110]

MariaDane,

The US Citizen petitioner is 17, not the UK beneficiary.

Sorry to burst yer bubble there luv2uallday but she IS of legal age, especially in UK mate!! The legal age for marriage in UK is 16.

[~*Maria*~ 1]

MariaDane,

The US Citizen petitioner is 17, not the UK beneficiary.

Sorry to burst yer bubble there luv2uallday but she IS of legal age, especially in UK mate!! The legal age for marriage in UK is 16.

Ahhh okies thanks william33 i guess i read it wrong thot the UKC was 17..my apologies