Possible fraud situation

[TucsonBill 0]

Ok, anyone got any ideas where I'd report this to? I'm checking Google...

Bill

If I (the OP) were a fraudster, I would not be posting my information here with my photos etc, (unless i was REALLY stupid, as I believe USCIS probably monotirs this site).

Maybe I've been sloppy in my choice of language. I meant the guy you spoke to, not you.

hehe - OK, OP = Original Poster

Bill

[rebeccajo 14]

If I (the OP) were a fraudster, I would not be posting my information here with my photos etc, (unless i was REALLY stupid, as I believe USCIS probably monotirs this site).

Maybe I've been sloppy in my choice of language. I meant the guy you spoke to, not you.

AJ, that was me that got sloppy, not you.

Sorry Bill. Daylight saving time you know.

[TucsonBill 0]

If I (the OP) were a fraudster, I would not be posting my information here with my photos etc, (unless i was REALLY stupid, as I believe USCIS probably monotirs this site).

Maybe I've been sloppy in my choice of language. I meant the guy you spoke to, not you.

AJ, that was me that got sloppy, not you.

Sorry Bill. Daylight saving time you know.

hehe ya rebeccajo, I had to go back and look, my respose to this quoted you.. hehe Gupt needs to check his snippers when he snips

I guess I'll just call the USCIS main number tomorrow, and see where the prompts take me. If reporting fraud is anything like the visa petition / application process, chances are that the whole report is gona get messed up anyway ... #######! Can you imagine if the person who takes the report gets this lard ### drunk confused with me? HO NO!!...

Oh well, gota do what I think is right.... wish me luck.

Bill

Edited October 29, 2006 by TucsonBill

[Erichu 0]

Whatever is going on, it's the restaurant owner pulling the strings. The taxi guy is a slob and a lowlife but he appears to be a pawn in whatever scheme the restaurant guy has in mind. It sounds like some kind of bait and switch where this USC is being lured somewhere on a false promise. What actually happened when he arrived is anybody's guess. His drunken behavior shows that he is a perfect target for a major rip-off. My guess is he is already suffering the consequences of his foolishness.

The most important person to check into would be the restaurant guy. The problem is you don't really have a clue who he is or what has happened and so I doubt you will get anywhere. For that reason it's probably not worth pursuing.

[Fandango 1,439]

The old man may be a fraudser, but so is the young woman.

[TucsonBill 0]

Whatever is going on, it's the restaurant owner pulling the strings. The taxi guy is a slob and a lowlife but he appears to be a pawn in whatever scheme the restaurant guy has in mind. It sounds like some kind of bait and switch where this USC is being lured somewhere on a false promise. What actually happened when he arrived is anybody's guess. His drunken behavior shows that he is a perfect target for a major rip-off. My guess is he is already suffering the consequences of his foolishness.

The most important person to check into would be the restaurant guy. The problem is you don't really have a clue who he is or what has happened and so I doubt you will get anywhere. For that reason it's probably not worth pursuing.

Thats something I did not think of... but I can't imagine any other motive for this 'restraunt owner', (or anyone else), to be luring an low-life alcoholic cab driver from LA to Vietnam... certainly not for ransom... but then, maybe someone paid to get rid of the guy... hehe.

Bill

PS I remember the 'restraunt owner' pretty well too, and he accompanied the cab driver on and off the flight as well as I remember and I'm sure there are videos if it came to that.

Edited October 29, 2006 by TucsonBill

[Fandango 1,439]

Who really cares? It's not like this is a shocker or anything...sadly, this stuff happens all the time, which is the reason why they are deemed 'high fraud' countries.

To the OP...what you are offering is nothing more than hearsay. Which amounts to nowt in the eyes of the law.

[Caladan 19]

Eh. What an icky guy. Almost hoping she runs off with his credit cards. That said, being an icky schmuck itself isn't fraudulent, and I'm not sure what reporting it would do.; can't arrest the guy or the girl or the restaurant owner beforehand, especially since you don't know their names, let alone that they just may be schmucks, which isn't against the law.

I'd let this go. If they go the K-1 route, the consulate will catch it. It's a high fraud country.

[rebeccajo 14]

To the OP...what you are offering is nothing more than hearsay. Which amounts to nowt in the eyes of the law.

The Patriot Act loosens then parameters for search of records quite a bit, and if DHS decides this story merits an investigation then the records of that flight could be subpeoned.

[aussiewench 9]

Bill,

Contact ICE. They may already have a file on this restaurant owner or ring, who may have 'lots of cousins'. Your added info may assist.

[mawilson 2,133]

I don't know if I should report this incident or not, but its certainly been bugging me!

Report what exactly? That a 50 year old American drunk is going to Thailand to

hook up with his 18-year old fiancée? Yah, that's highly illegal. So illegal in fact that

there are probably 50 VJ members doing the same thing as we speak.

Edited October 29, 2006 by mawilson

[Fandango 1,439]

I don't know if I should report this incident or not, but its certainly been bugging me!

Report what exactly? That a 50 year old American drunk is going to Thailand to

hook up with his 18-year old fiancée? Yah, that's highly illegal. So illegal in fact that

there are probably 50 VJ members doing the same thing as we speak.

[TucsonBill 0]

Bill,

Contact ICE. They may already have a file on this restaurant owner or ring, who may have 'lots of cousins'. Your added info may assist.

Thanks, I called the ICE hotline today - gave them all the details, I feel better that I did.

I don't know if I should report this incident or not, but its certainly been bugging me!

Report what exactly? That a 50 year old American drunk is going to Thailand to

hook up with his 18-year old fiancée? Yah, that's highly illegal. So illegal in fact that

there are probably 50 VJ members doing the same thing as we speak.

I don't believe that many people who are lured into a situation like this cab driver was would bother to participate on VJ, but then ... opinions vary.

[mawilson 2,133]

Thanks, I called the ICE hotline today - gave them all the details, I feel better that I did.

And told them what? Was there a crime to report?

I don't know if I should report this incident or not, but its certainly been bugging me!

Report what exactly? That a 50 year old American drunk is going to Thailand to

hook up with his 18-year old fiancée? Yah, that's highly illegal. So illegal in fact that

there are probably 50 VJ members doing the same thing as we speak.

I don't believe that many people who are lured into a situation like this cab driver was would bother to participate on VJ, but then ... opinions vary.

Lured? Who are you trying to protect again? The poor innocent 50-year old drunk

who was "lured" to Thailand to sleep with an 18-year old? Or the poor innocent

18-year old who wants a green card and is willing to sleep with the old man to get it?

[dmartmar 1]

Should you report an incident you had no interest hearing about, told by some drunken schmuck sitting next to you on a 13 hour flight?