No verifiable birthdate in Thailand

[808brokenxray 0]

I never thought i'd be asking this question but I guess some people in Third World countries were not born in an actual hospital so there was no verifiable birthdate on the birth certificate. If there was no actual birthdate on the birth certificate, my question is what do I pur on the G-325A Biographic Information form or any other form before submitting? Anyone out there who has run into this situation, please reply back. I have no answer to this as of yet but will post once I get the correct information on what the procedure would be.

[Calicolom 266]

I would say start with notarized statements from witnesses that know of the birth and birth date, at least 3 of them, try to get professionals to do these. I know this is what my mother did with my brothers birth, in the war years.

[Ning 619]

I never thought i'd be asking this question but I guess some people in Third World countries were not born in an actual hospital so there was no verifiable birthdate on the birth certificate. If there was no actual birthdate on the birth certificate, my question is what do I pur on the G-325A Biographic Information form or any other form before submitting? Anyone out there who has run into this situation, please reply back. I have no answer to this as of yet but will post once I get the correct information on what the procedure would be.

In Thailand this can be done at the local Amphur or at what you call City hall. I assume you are not talking about yourself. All Thais have to have an I D card. to get that they need a birth cert. The info you need could come from the Amphur but I would need to know more to tell you more. This is not uncommon in Thailand.

Edited October 10, 2012 by Ning

[Karee 4,190]

I never thought i'd be asking this question but I guess some people in Third World countries were not born in an actual hospital so there was no verifiable birthdate on the birth certificate. If there was no actual birthdate on the birth certificate, my question is what do I pur on the G-325A Biographic Information form or any other form before submitting? Anyone out there who has run into this situation, please reply back. I have no answer to this as of yet but will post once I get the correct information on what the procedure would be.

My wife didn't have a birth certificate at all. Not sure what you mean by "verifiable." What is the birthday on her ID card and in the family house blue book?

Birth Certificates

Available. The issuance of birth certificates in Thailand began in Bangkok in 1917. Records of birth are often lacking for people born in Bangkok before World War II and for those born in other areas of the country up until the 1970s. Birth Certificates are issued by "Amphur," (geographic subdivision roughly equivalent to a county in the U.S.) district authorities having jurisdiction over the place of birth. There may be a fee for this service.

A Thai citizen older than 15 and born in Thailand, whose birth was not registered, must present in its stead a household registration, together with a Thai national identity card ("bat prachachon"), and may also be required to submit additional proof of the claimed relationship.

Source:

http://travel.state.gov/visa/fees/fees_5455.html?cid=9660

My wife went to the Amphur with her mom and they gave her in official document in place of the birth certificate. It would also help to know what kind of visa you are applying for. If IR-1/CR-1 you're going to need it at the NVC steps. If K-1, the embassy pretty much takes anything for a birth certificate, however I have seen people run into alot of problems once she applies to adjust status with USCIS once in the U.S.

[Ning 619]

I would say start with notarized statements from witnesses that know of the birth and birth date, at least 3 of them, try to get professionals to do these. I know this is what my mother did with my brothers birth, in the war years.

In Thailand notaries are also lawyers. They are expensive as they are every where. It does no good to use a notary because they have zero to do with the content of a document. They simply verify signatures. This means anyone could sign a document which is really useless as proof when it is submitted to the US Govt.

[googled 13]

Yes, This is quite common in Thailand. My wife had similar issues. As Ning said, she will need to go to the local Amphur office.

[Karee 4,190]

Yes, This is quite common in Thailand. My wife had similar issues. As Ning said, she will need to go to the local Amphur office.

Yep. Get it done while she's there. It's an major pain once she's in the U.S.

[alexbrixie 3]

MY wife was born in bangkok but for some reason they couldnt find actual birth certificate. she had to go to the amphur in Surin where she was registered with her mother and an official document was produced. school and medical records would help as well. For some reason they would not give several originals only 1. So when you get to this point go back the next day and say you lost it and get another. Trips to Surin with her mother being able to get off work were getting unbearable. get as many as you can

[alexbrixie 3]

In Thailand notaries are also lawyers. They are expensive as they are every where. It does no good to use a notary because they have zero to do with the content of a document. They simply verify signatures. This means anyone could sign a document which is really useless as proof when it is submitted to the US Govt.

Sending a notary to Nong Khai cost me $700 and the person signing was a no show, twice.

[Karee 4,190]

Sending a notary to Nong Khai cost me $700 and the person signing was a no show, twice.

Why did you have to send a notary to Nong Khai? The stamp from the Amphur should be fine.

[Penguin_ie 5,995]

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