More kids with second marriage?

[honeyblonde 0]

How are you defining fertility? By the ability to conceive, or by the number of births to women of a certain age?

Also, is anyone looking at factors that can impact fertility, like the fact that so many women start using birth control by their mid 20s and don't choose to have children until their 30s, so stay on the pill all that time. There is some evidence to support that being on the pill for an extended period of time can decrease fertility.

[Caladan 19]

Caladan,

I agree with your first point, however I wonder what profession you are in when reading your second point.

I am 44. In July I had exploratory laparoscopy and while my doctor (OBGYN) was in there looking around I asked him to look at my tubes to see if they were a good candidate to be "untied". He looked and even gave me a full-color picture of them (anybody wanna see!?) and told me that they look great. He said he will recommend me to a specialist when I'm ready to have them untied. When I mentioned to him that we would probably wait a couple of years he only stressed that the older I get the riskier it gets that the child will have birth defects, but mentioned none of the other things you talk about.

I had my tubes tied when I was 23, and the doctor that did it back then told me that it could put me into early menopause. When I told my current doctor that, he said that was nonsense. He's been my doctor now since about 1992, and has been recognized as one of the best in his field in this city. I think there can be a lot of misinformation floating around and each woman should talk to her own doctor instead of listening to what she hears on here.

I am not a doctor. And you're absolutely right that each woman should check with her doctor, as individuals vary.

But there's still a difference between 'menopause' and 'declining fertility', and those are fairly well-documented. (scholar.google it... gets you to peer-reviewed research. Might need to be on a university server for it, though. Webmd has several articles on it, too.) Rough guideline -- and OB/GYNs consider this -- is 35 for a 'decline.' What that decline translates to depends heavily on the rest of woman's genetics, but the decline is there.

[morocco4ever 63]

How are you defining fertility? By the ability to conceive, or by the number of births to women of a certain age?

Also, is anyone looking at factors that can impact fertility, like the fact that so many women start using birth control by their mid 20s and don't choose to have children until their 30s, so stay on the pill all that time. There is some evidence to support that being on the pill for an extended period of time can decrease fertility.

I hadn't heard that before, but then again I didn't use it very long. I actually got pregnant on them once. After that is when I decided to go under the knife. I didn't regret doing it, I had 5 pregnancies in 8 years.

[Caladan 19]

How are you defining fertility? By the ability to conceive, or by the number of births to women of a certain age?

Also, is anyone looking at factors that can impact fertility, like the fact that so many women start using birth control by their mid 20s and don't choose to have children until their 30s, so stay on the pill all that time. There is some evidence to support that being on the pill for an extended period of time can decrease fertility.

I am defining 'fertility' here to mean 'ability to conceive and bear a child.' This is different from the sense of fertility used to track fertility rates.

Sometimes women have a hard time conceiving as they come off the pill, but it hasn't been conclusively linked to permanent infertility. (Basically, it sometimes takes a few months for your body to start ovulating again as your ovaries re-assert themselves.)

[Veiled Princess 1]

Sometimes women have a hard time conceiving as they come off the pill, but it hasn't been conclusively linked to permanent infertility. (Basically, it sometimes takes a few months for your body to start ovulating again as your ovaries re-assert themselves.)

Both of my children were birth control babies.... it's the only way I can conceive... and I'm not old

[Sofiyya 1,687]

None of this matters unless you want to become pregnant and can't or don't want to become pregnant and do.

In the west, birth control is a skew factor for fertility rates, no doubt. While there are women in their 40s and 50s who can become pregnant, few, in the total eligible population group want to. The same goes for younger women; that pool is shrinking too as more of them delay marriage childbearing untill after higher education and career advancement.

[morocco4ever 63]

Sometimes women have a hard time conceiving as they come off the pill, but it hasn't been conclusively linked to permanent infertility. (Basically, it sometimes takes a few months for your body to start ovulating again as your ovaries re-assert themselves.)

Both of my children were birth control babies.... it's the only way I can conceive... and I'm not old

I'm not old either, and if you imply I am I will hit you over the head with my cane if I can get my creaky old bones out of this rocker.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

50 is the new 30!

[Caladan 19]

I'm not even seeing how I said you were, VP! (I only said 'sometimes' twice, I know.)

I'm 27, too. Hoping to start a family once he's here, and we're settled and he has a green card.

[Veiled Princess 1]

Sometimes women have a hard time conceiving as they come off the pill, but it hasn't been conclusively linked to permanent infertility. (Basically, it sometimes takes a few months for your body to start ovulating again as your ovaries re-assert themselves.)

Both of my children were birth control babies.... it's the only way I can conceive... and I'm not old

I'm not old either, and if you imply I am I will hit you over the head with my cane if I can get my creaky old bones out of this rocker.

My mom threw my uncle his 50th b-day party a few weeks ago and it was freaking hilarious. She had signs all over the house and one of them said... if they pick on you about your age, beat them with your cane"

My favorite was... too old to rock and roll but too young to rant and rave

I'm not even seeing how I said you were, VP! (I only said 'sometimes' twice, I know.)

I'm 27, too. Hoping to start a family once he's here, and we're settled and he has a green card.

I'm just teasing everyone and trying to inject a little humor since everyone here is so offensive and defensive

[morocco4ever 63]

Sometimes women have a hard time conceiving as they come off the pill, but it hasn't been conclusively linked to permanent infertility. (Basically, it sometimes takes a few months for your body to start ovulating again as your ovaries re-assert themselves.)

Both of my children were birth control babies.... it's the only way I can conceive... and I'm not old

I'm not old either, and if you imply I am I will hit you over the head with my cane if I can get my creaky old bones out of this rocker.

My mom threw my uncle his 50th b-day party a few weeks ago and it was freaking hilarious. She had signs all over the house and one of them said... if they pick on you about your age, beat them with your cane"

My favorite was... too old to rock and roll but too young to rant and rave

I'm not even seeing how I said you were, VP! (I only said 'sometimes' twice, I know.)

I'm 27, too. Hoping to start a family once he's here, and we're settled and he has a green card.

I'm just teasing everyone and trying to inject a little humor since everyone here is so offensive and defensive

Love it!

[Together4ever 1]

Sometimes women have a hard time conceiving as they come off the pill, but it hasn't been conclusively linked to permanent infertility. (Basically, it sometimes takes a few months for your body to start ovulating again as your ovaries re-assert themselves.)

Both of my children were birth control babies.... it's the only way I can conceive... and I'm not old

I'm not old either, and if you imply I am I will hit you over the head with my cane if I can get my creaky old bones out of this rocker.

My mom threw my uncle his 50th b-day party a few weeks ago and it was freaking hilarious. She had signs all over the house and one of them said... if they pick on you about your age, beat them with your cane"

My favorite was... too old to rock and roll but too young to rant and rave

I'm not even seeing how I said you were, VP! (I only said 'sometimes' twice, I know.)

I'm 27, too. Hoping to start a family once he's here, and we're settled and he has a green card.

I'm just teasing everyone and trying to inject a little humor since everyone here is so offensive and defensive

We need John Madden to do the play-calls here...

[Caladan 19]

My fiancé's cousin has five children, all under the age of 9. He jokes that we'll have to have six, 'just to beat Karmon.'

(me: 'This isn't a competition, but you can have a few if you want to try to catch up.' )

[morocco4ever 63]

I always wanted 6 until I had my oldest child. Thats when I decided 1 is good.

[Veiled Princess 1]

half a dozen a dozen... it's all good for me.