N600k and b2 visa

[loveydovey 2]

i applied for my daughters N600k...

in the Philippines it is not very easy to get a B2( visitors visa) visa.. so im wondering, if i get an appointment letter from USCIS for interview/oath, is that an assurance that the US embassy in Manila will issue my daughter a B2 visa....? do i need to provide any other documents when we apply for the visitors visa?

[ceadsearc 516]

Why does she need a B-2? If she is eligible for citizenship she wouldn't be eligible for a B-2.

[apple21 953]

check if you're qualified to file for CRBA. http://manila.usembassy.gov/service/citizenship.html

[loveydovey 2]

Why does she need a B-2? If she is eligible for citizenship she wouldn't be eligible for a B-2.

we filed n600k under section 322. we used the grandparents physical presence because i did not complete the 5 year physical presence requirement... so for n600k, (residing abroad) the child needs to come to the US under a visitor's visa for the interview/oath.

What is involved?

The American parent fills out the USCIS application form N-600K and must include documents proving that either the parent or grandparent of the child spent the requisite time in the US. The forms and supporting documents are mailed to the USCIS District Office "lock-box" in Phoenix Arizona which is supposed to review them within 60 days. Applicants abroad are notified of preliminary approval by USCIS. An appointment is then set up, and the American parent and child/children travel to a designated District Office in the United States (not necessarily in Phoenix) to finalize the process on the day of the appointment. (Depending on the nationality and/or present country of residence of the child, either a visa waiver, visitor visa or other visa will be needed to enter the USA prior to the appointment. This can be checked by contacting a local US Consulate, explaining that entry into the USA is for the purpose of appearing in the USCIS district office for naturalization under Section 322.)

It is anticipated that in most cases the oath is administered and the Certificate of Citizenship is issued during the pre-scheduled appointment at the District Office. Once the Certificate is in hand, the child should obtain a US passport (going through a local US Passport Office) before leaving the US. Or a passport can be subsequently obtained in your normal country of residence. It is also advisable to obtain a Social Security number for the child. This too can be done at any US consulate in your normal country of residence.

Edited October 4, 2012 by loveydovey

[loveydovey 2]

check if you're qualified to file for CRBA. http://manila.usembassy.gov/service/citizenship.html

i applied for CRBA in manila back in May, but was not approved because i was only in the US for 4 years and 8 months... so yeah they told me to file i-130 instead... but i did my research and saw this N600k expedited naturalization under section 322 (using USC grandparent).

[ceadsearc 516]

Ohhh, ok, gotcha. Sorry, ignore my previous post then - didn't realize you didn't meet the residency requirements and were using grandparents time in the US. I would assume that that would almost certainly make them eligible for the B-2 but I have never actually seen a case like this (I have seen the parent petitioning the child for an immigrant visa and child becoming a USC upon entry) so I am not sure. Hope someone has the answer for you!

[loveydovey 2]

Ohhh, ok, gotcha. Sorry, ignore my previous post then - didn't realize you didn't meet the residency requirements and were using grandparents time in the US. I would assume that that would almost certainly make them eligible for the B-2 but I have never actually seen a case like this (I have seen the parent petitioning the child for an immigrant visa and child becoming a USC upon entry) so I am not sure. Hope someone has the answer for you!

thanks ive seen/read n600k cases but they all had like their b2 visas already... coz in my case my daughter doesnt have a visa or anything...

thanks. hope someone can fill me in.

[loveydovey 2]

i think filing for i-130 costs more... and that goes for the ones that would like to migrate in the US. i think n600ks are the ones who just want citizenship but would not require them to live in the US...

[Levifamily 0]

Hi,

I applied for my daughter's n600k back in 2010 and i sent the application to the los angeles field office (per application you are advised to send it to any local field office). May I ask how long it took before you got the approval?

Thank you.

we filed n600k under section 322. we used the grandparents physical presence because i did not complete the 5 year physical presence requirement... so for n600k, (residing abroad) the child needs to come to the US under a visitor's visa for the interview/oath.

What is involved?

The American parent fills out the USCIS application form N-600K and must include documents proving that either the parent or grandparent of the child spent the requisite time in the US. The forms and supporting documents are mailed to the USCIS District Office "lock-box" in Phoenix Arizona  which is supposed to review them within 60 days. Applicants abroad are notified of preliminary approval by USCIS. An appointment is then set up, and the American parent and child/children travel to a designated District Office in the United States (not necessarily in Phoenix) to finalize the process on the day of the appointment. (Depending on the nationality and/or present country of residence of the child, either a visa waiver, visitor visa or other visa will be needed to enter the USA prior to the appointment. This can be checked by contacting a local US Consulate, explaining that entry into the USA is for the purpose of appearing in the USCIS district office for naturalization under Section 322.)

It is anticipated that in most cases the oath is administered and the Certificate of Citizenship is issued during the pre-scheduled appointment at the District Office. Once the Certificate is in hand, the child should obtain a US passport (going through a local US Passport Office) before leaving the US.  Or a passport can be subsequently obtained in your normal country of residence.  It is also advisable to obtain a Social Security number for the child.  This too can be done at any US consulate in your normal country of residence.

 

[Brother Hesekiel 2,236]

Filing an N-600 or N-600K is a claim to BE a US citizen, not to become one.

A US citizen cannot get a visitor's visa to the United States.

[sib 7]

Brother, what I heard, those CoCs are finalized at the local USCIS office. So depending on the office the child has to got there.

To the poster:

Let us know about the outcome. What local office did you file with? Did you get any information back?

Sib

[acasnow 0]

Brother, the N-600 is an assertion that you already are a citizen, but the N-600k is a naturalization document. It gets the ball rolling.

The first one is for folks (adopted kids mostly, I guess) who become citizens when their feet hit U.S. soil. They will already have enough information to get a passport, but I think (not positive) that U.S. records will continue to list them as permanent residents. The N-600 will prompt Uncle Sam to fix his records, and issue a CofC. It shouldn't cost $550 bucks, but it does. It's a good idea to get this. Your child may someday want to adopt overseas or marry a Filipina (like I did!). If you fill out the N-600, then you could save them a lot of headaches later. Of course, if they never leave the U.S., then it's no big deal, though the passport will need to be periodically renewed.

The N-600K is for adopted kids who are currently overseas who are already adopted. The one big wrinkle is that there must be two years living together with the kids, plus at least two years of legal custody before you even apply. The latter must be declared by a court. I'm pretty sure, but not positive, that those two year periods need not be done at the same time (i.e., you could live with them for two years before your legal custody starts, then go work back in the states after being granted custody, and it would all still count). It also costs $550, and is actually a bargain. For that price you get citizenship all tied up neatly with no loose ends. With the N-600, you first need to spend $420 on the I-130, then another $550 on the N-600. Ouch. Best, I think, to just go with the N-600K before immigrating, if that's an option.

Loveydovey, you are correct. After getting citizenship, the kids are then likely (certainly able) to live outside of the states.

Good luck to all.

[acasnow 0]

Also, the N-600 is for IR-2 and IR-4 kids. IR-3 kids will be mailed a CofC automatically. That said, the IR-3 kids need an I-600, which is $720 bucks. IR-2 and IR-4 kids need the I-130 and the N-600 both. If you've completed the adoption overseas, and have lived with the kids for at least two years (plus the legal custody years), then you qualify for the N-600K. That can save you some cash. Again, good luck.

[imayg 0]

Hi to the one who posted this message! I'm interested on what's the update on your application of N600K for your child/ren? Were you granted and were they given a B-2 Visa immediately? What other process did you undergo?

Also to everyone, especially to these who can help us;

I am also considering on filing an application specifically N-600K as I have not met 1 requirement which is the physical presence of 5 years, 2 after 14. I am a US citizen by birth in the USA. My parents are also a US Citizen but decided to live here in the Philippines. They acquire the 5 years physical presence. Can I already apply my biological 4 month old son? or does he have to be 2 years old before I apply him?

Thanks in advance.

[imayg 0]

Brother, the N-600 is an assertion that you already are a citizen, but the N-600k is a naturalization document. It gets the ball rolling.

The first one is for folks (adopted kids mostly, I guess) who become citizens when their feet hit U.S. soil. They will already have enough information to get a passport, but I think (not positive) that U.S. records will continue to list them as permanent residents. The N-600 will prompt Uncle Sam to fix his records, and issue a CofC. It shouldn't cost $550 bucks, but it does. It's a good idea to get this. Your child may someday want to adopt overseas or marry a Filipina (like I did!). If you fill out the N-600, then you could save them a lot of headaches later. Of course, if they never leave the U.S., then it's no big deal, though the passport will need to be periodically renewed.

The N-600K is for adopted kids who are currently overseas who are already adopted. The one big wrinkle is that there must be two years living together with the kids, plus at least two years of legal custody before you even apply. The latter must be declared by a court. I'm pretty sure, but not positive, that those two year periods need not be done at the same time (i.e., you could live with them for two years before your legal custody starts, then go work back in the states after being granted custody, and it would all still count). It also costs $550, and is actually a bargain. For that price you get citizenship all tied up neatly with no loose ends. With the N-600, you first need to spend $420 on the I-130, then another $550 on the N-600. Ouch. Best, I think, to just go with the N-600K before immigrating, if that's an option.

Loveydovey, you are correct. After getting citizenship, the kids are then likely (certainly able) to live outside of the states.

Good luck to all.

Having researched on my possibility to take the route for applying N600K for my son since the CRBA has been denied because I did not contain 5 years physical presence, 2 of which after 14, Does the 2 year "law" you are saying, applicable to a biological child/ren? My Filipino husband and I are together with our son. I am planning to file a claim to my 4 month old using N600K. We currently reside in the Philippines (outside the US). His grandparents are also US Citizens with 5 year physical presence so that's what I will declare in the form to fill in the law for physical presence.

My question is, Is it too early to apply for my biological child? I might just waste money on our application if the 2 years custody of the child applies to our case.

Thank you in advance!