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http://news.yahoo.com/more-fast-furious-guns-linked-mexican-crimes-170114594--abc-news-politics.html

By ABC News | ABC OTUS News – Mon, Oct 1, 2012

By Jake Tapper, Devin Dwyer and Jason Ryan

A new report by our partners at Univision has found additional links between violent crimes in Mexico and guns involved in the Obama administration's flawed "Fast and Furious" operation.

Fifty-seven previously unidentified weapons tied to the operation - allowed to "walk" across the U.S. border into Mexico so ATF agents could trace them - were later found at the sites of murders, kidnappings and at "two gruesome massacres," Univision's Gerardo Reyes and Santiago Wills report .

The reporters made the discovery by cross-referencing a list of guns registered with "Fast and Furious" and a Mexican government list of the roughly 60,000 guns recovered at crime scenes in 2009 and 2010.

In July, a congressional investigation into the program reported 122 weapons had been traced to Mexican crime scenes. The Univision report adds 57 weapons to that list.

Asked for comment on the report, a Justice Department official noted to ABC News that the Attorney General "testified several times about the tragic consequences of this flawed investigation" and that he "put a stop to these flawed field tactics that began many years ago (2006) and instituted new leadership at ATF as well as key reforms that require stronger oversight of investigations."

Holder has testified that about 800 weapons - mostly AK-47s and high-powered handguns - had been recovered from "Fast and Furious." An estimated 1,200 guns from the program are still unaccounted for.

Last month the Justice Department Inspector General released a 450-page report documenting shortcomings of the gun-walking program and administration oversight of it since its initiation in October 2009. The program has since been discontinued.

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let's blame bush, even though the program didn't start until 9 months after he left office, and was authored by an obama appointee.

No, let's stick with the original thrust of this thread and blame 120 Fast and Furious guns amongst 60,000 (60 freaking thousand) confiscated at Mexican crime scenes for the violence in Mexico.

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No, let's stick with the original thrust of this thread and blame 120 Fast and Furious guns amongst 60,000 (60 freaking thousand) confiscated at Mexican crime scenes for the violence in Mexico.

120? 1200 + 800 =2000 I think.

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All those poor Mexicans murdered with guns provided by Obama to the Mexican drug cartels.

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Posted (edited)

120? 1200 + 800 =2000 I think.

Re-read the OP. 122 guns from F&F by congressional investigation + 57 Univision report = 179 out of 60,000 confiscated by Mexican authorities at crime scenes. Drop meets bucket.

800 guns was from statements attributed to Eric Holder, 1200 was an estimate of unaccounted for F&F guns.

Edited by ready4ONE

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let's blame bush, even though the program didn't start until 9 months after he left office, and was authored by an obama appointee.

The uninformed LEFT would love to. Too bad Fast and Furious is 100% Obama administration.

The truth hurts.

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The uninformed LEFT would love to. Too bad Fast and Furious is 100% Obama administration.

The truth hurts.

Yes. The truth is the F&F guns are a drop in the bucket, and RWN's need to make up their minds, are guns dangerous? More guns, less crime ringing any bells???

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  • August 4, 2006 sent certified mail I-129F packet Neb SC
  • August 9, 2006 NOA1
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  • October 4, 5, 7, 13 & 17 2006 Touches! 50 day address change... Yes Judith is beautiful, quit staring at her passport photo and approve us!!! Shaming works! LOL
  • October 13, 2006 NOA2! November 2, 2006 NOA2? Huh? NVC already processed and sent us on to Abu Dhabi Consulate!
  • February 12, 2007 Abu Dhabi Interview SUCCESS!!! February 14 Visa in hand!
  • March 6, 2007 she is here!
  • MARCH 14, 2007 WE ARE MARRIED!!!
  • May 5, 2007 Sent AOS/EAD packet
  • May 11, 2007 NOA1 AOS/EAD
  • June 7, 2007 Biometrics appointment
  • June 8, 2007 first post biometrics touch, June 11, next touch...
  • August 1, 2007 AOS Interview! APPROVED!! EAD APPROVED TOO...
  • August 6, 2007 EAD card and Welcome Letter received!
  • August 13, 2007 GREEN CARD received!!! 375 days since mailing the I-129F!

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Posted (edited)

I am so disgusted by eric holder.. he needs to resign OR be forced to leave his position.

How silly of me! No one in this administration is held accountable for any of their actions.

As far as our own gun laws... they will never change, sorry. The majority of people own guns.. do you see the majority of people using them for violence?

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11/15/12 - Approved I-129F NOA2 (6.5 months!!)

11/29/12 - NVC Received

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12/12/12 - Packet 3

12/21/12 - Packet 4

1/16/13 - Medical Exam

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1/28/13 - New interview date- Admin. Processing

2/4/13 - Denial- No waiver can apply

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Posted

I am so disgusted by eric holder.. he needs to resign OR be forced to leave his position.

How silly of me! No one in this administration is held accountable for any of their actions.

As far as our own gun laws... they will never change, sorry. The majority of people own guns.. do you see the majority of people using them for violence?

Not commenting on gun ownership, just the two faced arguments that have been going on here at VJ for time immemorial...

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  • July 16, 2006 Met in person on her birthday in United Arab Emirates
  • August 4, 2006 sent certified mail I-129F packet Neb SC
  • August 9, 2006 NOA1
  • August 21, 2006 received NOA1 in mail
  • October 4, 5, 7, 13 & 17 2006 Touches! 50 day address change... Yes Judith is beautiful, quit staring at her passport photo and approve us!!! Shaming works! LOL
  • October 13, 2006 NOA2! November 2, 2006 NOA2? Huh? NVC already processed and sent us on to Abu Dhabi Consulate!
  • February 12, 2007 Abu Dhabi Interview SUCCESS!!! February 14 Visa in hand!
  • March 6, 2007 she is here!
  • MARCH 14, 2007 WE ARE MARRIED!!!
  • May 5, 2007 Sent AOS/EAD packet
  • May 11, 2007 NOA1 AOS/EAD
  • June 7, 2007 Biometrics appointment
  • June 8, 2007 first post biometrics touch, June 11, next touch...
  • August 1, 2007 AOS Interview! APPROVED!! EAD APPROVED TOO...
  • August 6, 2007 EAD card and Welcome Letter received!
  • August 13, 2007 GREEN CARD received!!! 375 days since mailing the I-129F!

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Posted (edited)

I am so disgusted by eric holder.. he needs to resign OR be forced to leave his position.

How silly of me! No one in this administration is held accountable for any of their actions.

Do you feel disgusted with yourself for falsely accusing someone?

'Fast and Furious' Probe Clears Holder, Faults ATF and Justice

The OIG investigation found that Attorney General Eric Holder was not aware of the strategy and tactics used in "Fast and Furious," and turned up no evidence that Holder tried to cover up the operation, or mislead Congress about it.

http://abcnews.go.co...03#.UHMrfOR9Iuc

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Falsely accusing? Can u show me where it isnt obvious who is at fault for fast and furious? Your name suits u well, comrade. Keep drinking the kool aid!

05/02/12 - I-129F sent

5/04/12 - I-129F NOA1

11/15/12 - Approved I-129F NOA2 (6.5 months!!)

11/29/12 - NVC Received

12/10/12 - USEM Case Received

12/12/12 - Packet 3

12/21/12 - Packet 4

1/16/13 - Medical Exam

1/17/13 - Interview- computers crashed.... or so they claim!

1/28/13 - New interview date- Admin. Processing

2/4/13 - Denial- No waiver can apply

July 14 2013 - Moved to Vienna with my dog and 3 suitcases!

Posted

Falsely accusing? Can u show me where it isnt obvious who is at fault for fast and furious? Your name suits u well, comrade. Keep drinking the kool aid!

Pay him no mind. He makes stuff up as he goes. Everyone and their brother knows Holder and Obama are responsible for that fiasco.

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