Obama's Health Care Legacy

[Pooky 3,784]

Most politicians flip flop

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You gotta do better than Harry Reid.

No, I don't, really.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

No, I don't, really.

Okay. Single person = entire party. Harry Reid = GOP. Got it.

[Pooky 3,784]

Okay. Single person = entire party. Harry Reid = GOP. Got it.

No, you don't. But that's okay.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

No, you don't. But that's okay.

You said it, not me. The only response you were able to offer to the GOP calling their very own health care reform proposals communism was "Harry Reid flip flopped". That's all you got and let me tell you, it ain't much.

[Pooky 3,784]

You said it, not me. The only response you were able to offer to the GOP calling their very own health care reform proposals communism was "Harry Reid flip flopped". That's all you got and let me tell you, it ain't much.

And you still do't get it.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

And you still do't get it.

Oh, I get it. You've got nothing.

[Pooky 3,784]

Oh, I get it. You've got nothing.

Keep telling yourself that.

[Dakine10 5,452]

while candidate Obama promised premiums would fall by $2,500 on average, premiums have risen by $3,065 since Barack Obama was elected President.

Did the Kaiser Foundation study actually say this? The Kaiser Foundation is fully aware when "Obamacare" passed and when it goes into effect, so I am very surprised to find out they are bringing up irrelevant premium rates from 2008-2012 in their study.

I'm actually curious if anyone anywhere has ever had a health premium go down from year to year. I've had the same plan since 2001. I've had to change it to add dependant's of course, but the average year when I have had no changes in coverage has been an 8% increase. Which is about the national average.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

And you still do't get it.

What is this? Grade school?

[Obama 2012 1,714]

she was not able to obtain health care

STOP. Just stop right there. She was not able to obtain INSURANCE possibly because of her pre-existing condition, but health care - you could have obtained health care just fine. You would of just have to of paid for it yourself instead of demanding a company take on a risk and pay for it for you.

[Dakine10 5,452]

STOP. Just stop right there. She was not able to obtain INSURANCE possibly because of her pre-existing condition, but health care - you could have obtained health care just fine. You would of just have to of paid for it yourself instead of demanding a company take on a risk and pay for it for you.

Can't you save the libertarian mumbo jumbo for a theoretical debate? His wife has been in ICU for 8 weeks and you're trying to lecture about paying for health care out of pocket? Ridiculous.

[JohnR! 5,495]

Did the Kaiser Foundation study actually say this? The Kaiser Foundation is fully aware when "Obamacare" passed and when it goes into effect, so I am very surprised to find out they are bringing up irrelevant premium rates from 2008-2012 in their study.

I'm actually curious if anyone anywhere has ever had a health premium go down from year to year. I've had the same plan since 2001. I've had to change it to add dependant's of course, but the average year when I have had no changes in coverage has been an 8% increase. Which is about the national average.

This year, in August, for the first time I can remember, the company where I work received a refund on the insurance premiums, for all employees, from CIGNA.

Other than that, health insurance premiums have been going up, chiefly thanks to the slackers who are just too lazy to buy health coverage for themselves.

Edited September 27, 2012 by Gegel

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Can't you save the libertarian mumbo jumbo for a theoretical debate? His wife has been in ICU for 8 weeks and you're trying to lecture about paying for health care out of pocket? Ridiculous.

Was this topic moved out of P&R ? Stay out of P&R if you don't want to be debated. It's that simple.

Edited September 27, 2012 by Bad_Daddy

[Dakine10 5,452]

This year, in August, for the first time I can remember, the company where I work received a refund on the insurance premiums, for all employees, from CIGNA.

Other than that, health insurance premiums have been going up, chiefly thanks to the slackers who are just too lazy to buy health coverage for themselves.

Interestingly enough, this is also the first year that insurance companies have been required by law to give rebates if they spend more than 20% on administrative costs. Sort of contradicts the original study.

Was this topic moved out of P&R ?

No. Why? Something else bothering you now?

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Interestingly enough, this is also the first year that insurance companies have been required by law to give rebates if they spend more than 20% on administrative costs. Sort of contradicts the original study.

No. Why? Something else bothering you now?

Why jump Paul for stating his opinions on here. If people want to bring up personal matters in this forum then they do it at their own risk.