Evidence of meeting in person is must?

[sakurasama 0]

Yes, you will have to pay the $170 again.

[JanaknJanet 0]

There have been many people in past here on VJ that have either not taken photo's or simply camera broke or even has been lost or stolen in transit.

Do not worry concerning the photo's.. or should I say.. Do not let that stop you from applying.

While she was there visiting did the two of you stay in hotel?

Receipts for the hotel, restraunts, or museums. How about the train?

When I was in India, I collected the receipts from the Museum, got our train receipts, have our receipts from the hotel. Yes the hotel was in his name but it ties us to each other during the time. I used my credit card for part of the room service bill..

If you do not have these items. May I suggest that you possibly contact the Hotel where you or she had stayed and request a duplicate receipt? I am sure if you explain the situation they may be able to reprint off a receipt and even possibly add her name to the registry receipt if they show her as the guest.

With the stamp in her passport, and airline ticket stubs.. seat confirmations ... hey even toss in the tags from here luggage.. the ones that are the security tags that say Mumbai international airport... hehe I have mine.

Copies of her travel documents. and email discribing her itinary.

Good luck..

[sakurasama 0]

I would focus on placing her in India and then proving a relationship afterward. I don't think it is that uncommon that people meet, keep in touch and fall in love. Do you have proof of an ongoing relationship from when she returned to teh US to now?

[Aria13 0]

Your fiance can use her visa to India in her passport and if she still has her plane ticket, boarding pass, maybe even credit card bill from the ticket. This merely proves that she was in India at that time and doesn't connect the two of you. Does she have any bus tickets or hotel bills from the city you live in? That would prove you were in the same city but you would still need something else connecting the two of you. If you have email or letters after the trip mentioning the trip or phone records to each other after the trip that would build a stronger case. If she has met your friends or family they can write letters attesting to fact. Photos are irrefutable proof but you can use other things- you just need a little more evidence.

Yes she can show all evidences that she came to India but without pictures togther how can we prove we met in person.

Affidavits from friends that saw the two of you together?

You can only provide the evidence that you can obtain. If you don't have photos, then you will have to explain that with the application. They will either accept the evidence you can provide or they will not. If they accept it, then you have succeeded. If they do not accept it, then you may have to meet again and reapply. Suggestions have been given here of the types of evidence you could use. It may or may not be adequate. There is no magical solution to overcome a lack of evidence.

We can get the affidavits from friends or family.We want to know in case they deny our petition do we have to pay fees again when we reapply?

Oh yeah, they'll always take your money, bro. I was honestly worried that I wouldn't have enough evidence after a few visits, because for the first few, I hadn't really thought to collect receipts and boarding pass stubs. A couple I'm friends with in my town have already completed the process, and they were the ones who gave me the idea to really take one trip, and devote it to gathering evidence and filing the paperwork together. You only have to prove you've met in person once in the last two years, right?

[Caladan 19]

Don't even think about Photoshop.

You have primary evidence of her being in the country. Passport stamps, receipts, airline tickets, boarding passes. You don't have photographs. You can't produce what you don't have. Her ATM receipts get her into your city, at least. That's a start.

But what do photographs do? They don't count as primary evidence, but as secondary evidence that helps tell a story with the primary evidence. If all you had was photographs, you'd be in worse shape. So think, What other things could tell a story? A sworn affadavit from your friends who saw you together. E-mails that show you have a relationship. Phone records that show you call each other. Tickets to movies or plays you saw.

I feel your anxiety. We're not photograph people either. I sent every photograph I had with our petition, and that came to four, and one of those was three years old. (When I'm in the mountains in Canada, I photograph the scenery, not us.)

[sakurasama 0]

I know, sometime the photograph thing can get silly. I went to visit my fiance and we took photos every chance we got. "Oh look, India Gate! That is recognizable. Let's do one here. Look loving now! And commited and real" All our pictures look exactly the same but in different locations! But, gosh darn, we have pictures!

[Caladan 19]

One of our photos we are sitting at a table. Two of them are taken by him holding the camera, so we get that lovely smushed face look.

In the fourth, we are in Halloween costumes.

[sheraz 0]

You can apply for K1. This will come up at the time of interview. And it would be better if your fiancee is there with you at the interview.

Photos are the strongest evidence albeit secondary evidence.. If your fiancee is originally from India, plane tickets movie stubs etc wont do as they cannot help much as she could have just gone there for some other purpose.

Aside from thinking like a lawyer, most consulates tend to be lenient as far as evidence of relationship is concerned.

Consulates know about engagement ceremonies in India. They will ask you why you did not have one and do what your parents think.

[maya62 7]

As other members have said in the past... you are building a picture here. Each piece of evidence on its own may not be terribly strong, but it is the complete package that creates the impression formed first by the Adjudicating Officer (in the US, for the petition) and later by the Consular Officer (in India, at the interview). Everyone's suggestions for evidence are good.

Boarding passes show that, not only did you have a plane tickets, but you actually boarded the plane. A credit card statement shows payment for the flight. I'm sure passport stamps are good, too.

I have heard on VJ of people getting their petitions approved without any photos. I imagine their other documentation would have been pretty good...

Since you don't have photos, the suggestion of affidavits from those who spent time with you (together) while your fiancee was in India, sounds particularly helpful to me. And emails discussing the trip before and after might also be useful.

You might also suggest to your fiancee that she provide a somewhat more detailed answer to question 18 on the I-129 form (fiance(e) visa petition). Many people just use the space provided (one line) on the form, and write only one sentence. But you can write more, and I would think a little story - no more than one page- might be helpful in constructing this picture for the Adjudicating Officer who will be reviewing her petition application.

Best wishes!

Maya

[aussiewench 9]

As other members have said in the past... you are building a picture here. Each piece of evidence on its own may not be terribly strong, but it is the complete package that creates the impression formed first by the Adjudicating Officer (in the US, for the petition) and later by the Consular Officer (in India, at the interview). Everyone's suggestions for evidence are good.

Boarding passes show that, not only did you have a plane tickets, but you actually boarded the plane. A credit card statement shows payment for the flight. I'm sure passport stamps are good, too.

I have heard on VJ of people getting their petitions approved without any photos. I imagine their other documentation would have been pretty good...

Since you don't have photos, the suggestion of affidavits from those who spent time with you (together) while your fiancee was in India, sounds particularly helpful to me. And emails discussing the trip before and after might also be useful.

You might also suggest to your fiancee that she provide a somewhat more detailed answer to question 18 on the I-129 form (fiance(e) visa petition). Many people just use the space provided (one line) on the form, and write only one sentence. But you can write more, and I would think a little story - no more than one page- might be helpful in constructing this picture for the Adjudicating Officer who will be reviewing her petition application.

Best wishes!

Maya

Posted in many threads regarding evidence of having met.

Use Q18 to describe in some detail in an attachment, of how you met in the required 2 year period that established the relationship. Then the evidence submitted should support those details. Boarding passes, passport stamps, hotel/credit card receipts, rental receipts if ever lived together etc etc are primary evidence. Photos are secondary which support the primary evidence. What one should be aiming for is creating an image in the minds eye of the adjudicator......a complete picture. Look outside the box for evidence that shows you both in the same place at the same time. Each case is different and one should submit evidence accordingly, not just rely on the standard unofficial list.

[jonty 0]

Me and my fiance'e met last year(2005) dec. but at that time we didnt were not sure about us and we didnt know we will require a proof for K1 visa petition?

what kind of proof one can give to prove we have met in last 2 years?we dont have pictures together.

She came to India and we met here thats it.

In case this PROOF is necessary ...and we dont have it...is there any other way that she doesnt have to come back to India just for this proof as she is a student as well as she is working so its not easy for her to come back.

We read about involving international marriage broker but we dont know any thing about it...can any one suggest us?Preferably if you can give any such broker locaed in Mumbai city of India?

awaiting your responses and guidance.

Hello,

You can have boarding passes, plane tickets, travel itinerary, telephone bills, hotel bills, Credit card payment bills etc. to prove that you both have met eachother. The proofs are must in K-1 Cases.