Returning Petitions to the United States via 221g

[limah 1]

YAAY! I haven't even noticed......

Hair pins, bobby pins, stick pins, bowlin' pins, ink pens....... As long as its pinned..... Good work!!!!!!

Limah

[Ahmed & Ella 0]

Shokran for all the new support, this is exactly what this issue needs. MORE...MORE!!

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~Kiya~

hello there i think i fit in here with all the rest of you for i have been waiting over a year with a 221g......

[Private 1]

Why do you think you got the 221 G if you do not mind me asking.

Edited January 15, 2007 by Private

[Ahmed & Ella 0]

Why do you think you got the 221 G if you do not mind me asking.

my fiance got the letter of 221g i dont know why he got it...all i know is that they wanted more proof of our relationship..my fiance was very nervous in his first interview.... do you know something i don't?????

[Private 1]

Just curious there could be somethings that maybe you think it is. The reason why it was returned. I am hearing from a lady that sometimes it is best to just withdraw a petition and refile. You are through Vermont right? I got an email telling me that the got the case back. I am getting ready for the big one. Chia, and others that did the rebutall it would be good if you guys can post your letters to the various agenecies you wrote and also the rebutal letter. I am getting ready to start mine and maybe I will share it on here. Ahmed&Ella will you show us or tell us what you sent to them.

[Ahmed & Ella 0]

Just curious there could be somethings that maybe you think it is. The reason why it was returned. I am hearing from a lady that sometimes it is best to just withdraw a petition and refile. You are through Vermont right? I got an email telling me that the got the case back. I am getting ready for the big one. Chia, and others that did the rebutall it would be good if you guys can post your letters to the various agenecies you wrote and also the rebutal letter. I am getting ready to start mine and maybe I will share it on here. Ahmed&Ella will you show us or tell us what you sent to them.

when he got 221g letter they told him that they needed more proof of relationship like i told you...are you asking me to tell you what i sent for proof... well i wrote a letter telling them how real our love was and that age is no matter when you really love some one ans sent them all our conversations on the computor and more pictures,and phone bills and letters he wrote in the mail...everything i could possibily think of to show that we were continuing our relationship....yes i am through vermont..annd im being told that some officer has it, along with alot of others..sitting on his desk..waiting to get processed to get sent back to casablanca....but just have to wait for this to be done.....

[Private 1]

Just curious there could be somethings that maybe you think it is. The reason why it was returned. I am hearing from a lady that sometimes it is best to just withdraw a petition and refile. You are through Vermont right? I got an email telling me that the got the case back. I am getting ready for the big one. Chia, and others that did the rebutall it would be good if you guys can post your letters to the various agenecies you wrote and also the rebutal letter. I am getting ready to start mine and maybe I will share it on here. Ahmed&Ella will you show us or tell us what you sent to them.

when he got 221g letter they told him that they needed more proof of relationship like i told you...are you asking me to tell you what i sent for proof... well i wrote a letter telling them how real our love was and that age is no matter when you really love some one ans sent them all our conversations on the computor and more pictures,and phone bills and letters he wrote in the mail...everything i could possibily think of to show that we were continuing our relationship....yes i am through vermont..annd im being told that some officer has it, along with alot of others..sitting on his desk..waiting to get processed to get sent back to casablanca....but just have to wait for this to be done.....

Ahmed&Ella I am not sure if you sent it to the embassy or the service center. So it id was teh service center then I am curious about the letter. The letter is important and you said that you did not know why they denied you and then you say you spoke about the age difference. This was the question I was asking, what you thought there reasons where and what you said. I think it would be cool to see what some people wrote. I guess because this is the denial trend, it would also be cool to make good use and we can tell our stories and also why we thought we where denied and what we have been doing and what we did. This would be good for the trend.

[Ahmed & Ella 0]

Just curious there could be somethings that maybe you think it is. The reason why it was returned. I am hearing from a lady that sometimes it is best to just withdraw a petition and refile. You are through Vermont right? I got an email telling me that the got the case back. I am getting ready for the big one. Chia, and others that did the rebutall it would be good if you guys can post your letters to the various agenecies you wrote and also the rebutal letter. I am getting ready to start mine and maybe I will share it on here. Ahmed&Ella will you show us or tell us what you sent to them.

when he got 221g letter they told him that they needed more proof of relationship like i told you...are you asking me to tell you what i sent for proof... well i wrote a letter telling them how real our love was and that age is no matter when you really love some one ans sent them all our conversations on the computor and more pictures,and phone bills and letters he wrote in the mail...everything i could possibily think of to show that we were continuing our relationship....yes i am through vermont..annd im being told that some officer has it, along with alot of others..sitting on his desk..waiting to get processed to get sent back to casablanca....but just have to wait for this to be done.....

Ahmed&Ella I am not sure if you sent it to the embassy or the service center. So it id was teh service center then I am curious about the letter. The letter is important and you said that you did not know why they denied you and then you say you spoke about the age difference. This was the question I was asking, what you thought there reasons where and what you said. I think it would be cool to see what some people wrote. I guess because this is the denial trend, it would also be cool to make good use and we can tell our stories and also why we thought we where denied and what we have been doing and what we did. This would be good for the trend.

yes when they asked for proof i sent it back through vermont and on to casablanca...i never got anything saying we were denied.....just saying it was sent back for further review......everyone keeps thinking we were denied...theres nothing saying we were denied.........

[Private 1]

This is the slang language we know you where not denied. Casablanca can not deny unless it is something crazy, like medical or k-1 now married type of stuff.

[Ahmed & Ella 0]

This is the slang language we know you where not denied. Casablanca can not deny unless it is something crazy, like medical or k-1 now married type of stuff.

thank you

[~kiyah~ 14]

I am hearing from a lady that sometimes it is best to just withdraw a petition and refile.

I would speak to an 'experienced' immigration attorney before voluntarily withdrawing any returned petition and just filing a new one.

1. What ever the reason(s) for the return are need to be addressed, they will not go away by just filing a new petition.
   
2. When the consulate returns an approved K1 petition to USCIS, they will put a 212(a)(6)( c )(1) misrepresentation marker, called a “P6C1” marker, or a “quasi-refusal” in the beneficiary’s record. If DHS decides at a later date to revoke that petition, a hard 212(a)6( c )(i) finding can kick in.
   

Just filing a new petition without the returned petition either being rebutted and reaffirmed, or closed due to the original approval expiration giving the petitioner the option of filing again you will need to deal with this misrepresentation marker which is a very serious matter. If the returned petition is reaffirmed or closed due to the expiration of the original approval then this marker is removed from the beneficiary record.

This is definitely NOT something you want to find out at your new interview...beneficiary not eligible due to the misrepresentation marker. This is a perfect example of why speaking to an experienced immigration attorney before withdrawing a returned petition is essential.

~Kiyah~

Edited January 15, 2007 by Kiya

[chiquita 0]

This is the slang language we know you where not denied. Casablanca can not deny unless it is something crazy, like medical or k-1 now married type of stuff.

thank you

They did DENY you the VISA. (Did you get one?)

They returned the PETITION because they found something to NOT issue a VISA, or so they think.

There are two different issues here.

One is Casa issuing a VISA or not issuing a VISA.

The other is returning the approved petition back to USCIS asking for the petition to be REVOKED per the CO's findings.

chi

[chiquita 0]

Just curious there could be somethings that maybe you think it is. The reason why it was returned. I am hearing from a lady that sometimes it is best to just withdraw a petition and refile. You are through Vermont right? I got an email telling me that the got the case back. I am getting ready for the big one. Chia, and others that did the rebutall it would be good if you guys can post your letters to the various agenecies you wrote and also the rebutal letter. I am getting ready to start mine and maybe I will share it on here. Ahmed&Ella will you show us or tell us what you sent to them.

I would be happy to post my letters to the group. I do not wish for my private info to be in a public forum.

chi

[~kiyah~ 14]

This is the slang language we know you where not denied. Casablanca can not deny unless it is something crazy, like medical or k-1 now married type of stuff.

thank you

They did DENY you the VISA. (Did you get one?)

They returned the PETITION because they found something to NOT issue a VISA, or so they think.

There are two different issues here.

One is Casa issuing a VISA or not issuing a VISA.

The other is returning the approved petition back to USCIS asking for the petition to be REVOKED per the CO's findings.

chi

Chi is absolutely correct. The 221g stating petition return is a refusal to issue a visa by the consulate, some call it a soft denial.

They return the petition to USCIS with a recommendation to revoke per their findings or lack of evidence of the relationship. Hence the process of the NOIR/NOID (Notice Of Intent to Revoke/Notice Of Intent to Deny). The visa refusal becomes a hard denial if the returned petition is actually revoked or denied.

Ella, I pray you hear something soon about your returned petition. Stay strong and don't lose hope...patience is key.

~Kiyah~

Edited January 15, 2007 by Kiya

[Private 1]

How long have some waited for the NOID to come to them? I am meaning from when you got the notification that you case was received back. I have heard like 6 months and some people like never. So please share.