And there goes Tunis...

[lillakatoussa 12]

OMG

Right?! I've been sick about it all day.

[Beauty for Ashes 257]

I am the FARTHEST thing from a Pamela Gellar cheerleader. I found the link to the pictures NOT on a blog but on khalifa facebook pages that are showing them.

I would like you to take a look at this page and some others that are showing the pictures as well as calling for continuing protests.

Khalifa

You need to wake up and make the decision that we do NOT have a handle on what is going on overseas NOR do we have a handle on what is happening or has happened at our embassies. I am mortified at the fact instead of telling people the truth of who did this movie, a criminal who in fact is from Egypt himself and a coptic christian, these sites and facebook pages continue to rile people up and tell them that it was some kind of produced movie. There are clerics that continue to rile things up over there instead of calling for peace and telling people the truth about what transpired.

What transpired is that this movie was produced by a criminal who happened to be an Egyptian copt. It was advertised and dubbed in fact by Morris Sadek, another coptic christian who promoted it on Memri television and was financed by extreme right christians in the US but in fact the two primary coptic christians went around and sought financial support from Coptic Christians and extreme right winger such as groups that Pamela Gellar supports. They asked for money to make an anti islam movie and apparently even if they did not get 5 million dollars, this nutbag Sadek did a great job of sending this movie all over.

The problem is NOW clerics from all over the world instead of denouncing it as a movie made by an extremist, are promoting it as being produced in Hollywood, as licensed by the American people and produced in Hollywood. It was produced by someone. It may have a 25 dollar budget but it was made and now because of free speech laws, youtube will not take it down and we will continue to see more and more.

Secondly, if you think that islamophobe blogs are the source of any of this information, you are wrong. All you have to do is link to ANY of these facebook pages where the protests are being glorified and you will find picture after picture and frankly you can either as a muslim or a family of muslims make the decision to bury your head to the reality that perhaps muslims are fanning the flames themselves, which they are OR you can start to think about what BOTH sides can do to stop this nonsense.

First what needs to be done on the US side is to make a call to YOUTUBE to take down all links to this film and stop circulating it by the hundreds of thousand an hour and we as a nation can call upon all political parties, mostly the republicans to stop condemning the adminstration and secondly, the muslim clerics egging the protests on need to stop. There needs to be a call to foreign television stations to tell the truth about who made this movie and that it was NOT licensed by the Americans.

These facebook pages run by extreme islamists are calling for the blood of all kaffir and laughing at what happened to the embassy of libyas staff. Its horrifying and instead of ignoring it, call for BOTH sides to stop fanning the flames. All you do by blaming the American rightys of which I am definitely not a member of, without condemning the protesters and clerics is become an apologist for radical islam and I sure as hell dont want to be an apologist for the murderers who tortured our ambassador and now have our foreign embassy workers trapped in their embassies. How about condemming the clerics who are calling for the death of all kuffars and fanning the flames to instigate more attacks on more embassies.

This is a two sided issue with two sides that are doing wrong. Both sides need to be stopped and the truth of who made this movie be told and it was NOT promoted or paid for by US interests, a fact that seems to be lost on the clerics or protesters.

[sandinista! 1,816]

i'm talking about the completely unsubstantiated and unverified reports of sexual assault. you know, when you said

"I think the biggest thing that is bothering me is the censorship for whatever reason of what really happened to the ambassador. I saw the pictures of his body being drug through the streets and apparently he was sodomised as well as reported by the lebanese papers."

the only fools that have glommed onto those unsubstantiated reports are the geller/spencer et al crowd.

hillary clinton said that "Libyans carried Chris' body to the hospital, and they helped rescue and lead other Americans to safety,". is she lying?

i'm not bored or patient enough this afternoon to attempt to cobble together what the rest of the above post's jibber jabber is all about.

[sandinista! 1,816]

And now this video has appeared, in line with what Hillary Clinton said

http://m.gawker.com/5943750/video-shows-libyans-removing-ambassadors-body-from-the-american-mission-in-benghazi

Edited September 17, 2012 by sandinista!

[Beauty for Ashes 257]

And now this video has appeared, in line with what Hillary Clinton said

http://m.gawker.com/5943750/video-shows-libyans-removing-ambassadors-body-from-the-american-mission-in-benghazi

If he was not tortured as the lebanese paper said, I am sorry for posting what I did as you and I both know that it does not help things either way. I was very pleased that their has been an outpouring of grief from various organizations all over the world.

I do however think that the people responsible for this attack were AL QAEDA in the magreb and that they used the video as an excuse to murder the ambassador and his staff. There is absolutely no way to spin this. The attack was done by terrorists that ascribe to terror and today Al Qaeda released a statement that the ambassadors murder was a "gift". There is NO central authority in Libya and now their government is calling for help from the international community. I doubt that that will happen now in light of the murder of the ambassador.If they could not protect our people, whos to say that they can protect peacekeepers or anyone else going in there to help.

There is no way to spin this. Moderate muslims need to get a handle on extremists in their midst. I have no idea how this can be done but you can imagine how much women and children are suffering in this nonsense as well as moderate women who are not as religious who want to be able to live and work freely.If you are muslim and respect the rights of others, the first thing muslims should do is take a good look at who is doing what and not become apologists for people who are bat #### crazy. Just like these islamists dont represent dont represent every muslim, neither does that bat #### movie represent all americans.

Today a female suicide bomber in Afganistan slammed a car and killed 12 people. Yesterday several troops were killed by afgan police officers. Everyone is blaming that on that stupid movie. I think its an excuse frankly..We need to hand back Afganistan and its not ready to rule itself but thats now their problem. Libya needs to do the same. I am sick of Americans dying for absolutely nothing..I feel the same way about aid as well. If you cannot protect the Americans consuls that represent us, you as a nation do not deserve any of our aid.Period

Edited September 18, 2012 by Beauty for Ashes