VictiM of marriage fraud

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.. on the second day in this country,he threw me and my daughter out in the snow...and I immediaetely flew back home with my Daughter using the return partion of the round trip ticket that I had purchased to come here....

That's much better.

If my husband had changed after I immigrated to US, I'd leave him and go back to my home country. The purpose of the petition is to be re-united with family. I just find it hard to believe that immigrants are willing to stay over here at all cost after being subjected to abuse shortly after arriving in US claiming the marriage wasn't entered for immigration purposes.

I like your style.

I disagree here. I had to ask my husbands aunt to co-sponsor me because USCIS didnt consider my husbands fellowship to be salary. I am getting a Phd in law from France, i am educated indépendant woman. I refuse to consider that co sponsoring me is like betting in vegas. not all immigrants are scammers. i take personnal pride into not becoming a public charge.

People just think twice about sponsoring people from poor countries but all is relative if that person is rich and educated in their country so lower risk of scam, also you can be poor and in love, so not a scammer...it is just very important to know your spouse well and then eventually sign a pre nup. take action asap when fraud suspicion.

There was one VJer just this month who brought over a Rich Lady from Brazil (I think) who still mistreated him.

Education and/or money doesn't equate to high morals.

I cringe whenever I read about cosponsors on here. It's a potential disaster waiting to happen. A Prenup covers the petitioner, it leaves the co-Sponsor wide open. The truth is that the co-Sponsor is actually more financially vulnerable in most cases than the petitioner.

[joevegas 67]

why do the US citizens always claim marriage fraud because the marriage didnt work out.Think about you could have been married to another US citizen and the marriage didnt work too,so then what would you have said.

This thing is getting too ridiculous with these US citizens.Why cant you say you all had a good time while it last.Some of these same US citizens go to the other countries and fool around with them and make a fool of them and they havent been complaining.As long you've been married to a US citizen and they did your papers and it happen that it didnt work out,you hear that it was a scam.What about the alien who continue to be treated cruel for years,even before and after marriage and still cant prove it to the officals because lacking of evidence.

Seems like its all about the US citizens and some of them want you to clean their #### or they report that you defrauded them for a Greencard.

Im so tired of hearing them complain about fraud when its them who are defrauding people because they have one over the alien.

There is a saying that you can do as much as you want but not as long as you want.Its time these US sposes stop crying FOWL.

that is such a ####### reply,the majority of fraud cases are from people from countries that have a hard time obtaining visas,sooo,what do you think dude?..Is the US citizen trying to pull one over from his own government?..Pretty well the dumbest answer i have heard so fat.

[rosaline 8]

that is such a ####### reply,the majority of fraud cases are from people from countries that have a hard time obtaining visas,sooo,what do you think dude?..Is the US citizen trying to pull one over from his own government?..Pretty well the dumbest answer i have heard so fat.

You say what you want,when you are not wearing the shoes,you can feel the bore from the tack.Let the one without sin cast the first stone.Im marraige,everyone wants something from everyone and that is love.Thats what we all are looking for and we end up being hurt,so stop judging.Dont US citizens commit frauds?Not all US citizens are the victims and the Immigration knows that.

[ca_babe 129]

I agree. If an immigrant like me from a third world country makes $86,000 a year, I would expect that my USC husband who's born in US to be able to get a job that pays enough to not need co-sponsors. Otherwise, we would have waited to get married until he makes enough.

Asking someone to co-sponsor, to me, is akin to asking someone to use that persons hard earned savings to place a bet in Vegas.

[Gracenp2 14]

Asking someone to co-sponsor, to me, is akin to asking someone to use that persons hard earned savings to place a bet in Vegas.

I couldn't of put it enter myself.

OP, your need to cut your losses and move on. I'm sorry this happened to you!

[Moomin 292]

OP, he entered after you had been married for 2 years. Nothing much to do about it unless you have proof that he entered the US for the benefits themselves and not for the purpose of being with you(immigration fraud) - in which case, the phone number for ICE is located on the bottom of wach page on Visa JOurney. You personally can't deport him. US citizens have no authority to do so.

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Rosaline - while I find it sad that anyone gets stuck in a situation like yours, I have a hard time with all the prescriptions and then being in the military, if I'm reading it correctly? While you're right that the immigrant sometimes get themselves into situations they couldn't have predicted, 2 days worth of being in the country and staying for xx amount of months afterwards.. Personally, I'd advise anyone to save up to go home and start over instead of putting up with that kind of behaviour. You had been with the man for 4 years without knowing that his daughter ran away because of this behaviour? Make a life for your kiddo and yourself in your home country. You keep being the victim because you keep leaning on him("he doesn't answer his phone, I've tried emailing"). Don't crawl back to a person unless you're willing to put up with the behaviour. The behaviour is obviously not changing.

(Off topic I know, I'm sorry)

[Que Saudade 284]

,but how about the innocent aliens who are being used too.

This isn't about illegal aliens. That is a totally different topic that can be discussed in the political arena.

There are laws protecting against abuse to Non-US spouses. VAWA, however, it gets abused also. You received your green card didn't you?

No, not all US Citizens are the victims just like not all of the Non-US citizens are victims.

And I don't think ALL US citizens claim fraud when it doesn't work out. Maybe just the ones who are wronged actually voice what has transpired with their marriage. The ones who don't feel "wronged" or "scammed" do not feel the need to reach out.

Unfortunately, your logic about marrying another US citizen just doesn't compare. There are no potential long term "rights" related to citizenship at risk.

To the OP... Sorry about your situation, I hope you are able to resolve the issues you have.

Best of luck to you

[DandT14 272]

when I have a teenage child that I give up to be with him.

This is the worst part of your whole story. No man is worth giving up your child for. I saw someone the other day who casually mentioned her teenage son wasn't immigrating with her. That's something I can never support or understand.

[mounir412 101]

I am so sorry to hear this

[him4life 13]

because your marriage didnt work that does not make it fraud, and besides we have not heard the other side of the story, sometimes immigrants married US citizens who ends up being crazy and controlling, the immigrant has no choice but to leave the crazy spouse and run for their life after they get greencard

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This is the worst part of your whole story. No man is worth giving up your child for. I saw someone the other day who casually mentioned her teenage son wasn't immigrating with her. That's something I can never support or understand.

You are selfish.

A kid has two parents. Perhaps the child is a well centered person who will rather stay in his country with loved ones like the other parent, Grand parents, etc. As opposed to running off with oen parent to that parents flavor of the time.

because your marriage didnt work that does not make it fraud, and besides we have not heard the other side of the story, sometimes immigrants married US citizens who ends up being crazy and controlling, the immigrant has no choice but to leave the crazy spouse and run for their life after they get greencard

Oh yeah? So why wait till they receive the GC? Why not bolt right away and catch the first plane out of dodge?

[him4life 13]

You are selfish.

A kid has two parents. Perhaps the child is a well centered person who will rather stay in his country with loved ones like the other parent, Grand parents, etc. As opposed to running off with oen parent to that parents flavor of the time.

Oh yeah? So why wait till they receive the GC? Why not bolt right away and catch the first plane out of dodge?

various reasons, some of them were uprooted from their country, they left their jobs sold their belongings etc, and some are from poverty stricken countries, and see it better to make a life here than to go back

[noname0 6]

why do the US citizens always claim marriage fraud because the marriage didnt work out.Think about you could have been married to another US citizen and the marriage didnt work too,so then what would you have said.

This thing is getting too ridiculous with these US citizens.Why cant you say you all had a good time while it last.Some of these same US citizens go to the other countries and fool around with them and make a fool of them and they havent been complaining.As long you've been married to a US citizen and they did your papers and it happen that it didnt work out,you hear that it was a scam.What about the alien who continue to be treated cruel for years,even before and after marriage and still cant prove it to the officals because lacking of evidence.

Seems like its all about the US citizens and some of them want you to clean their #### or they report that you defrauded them for a Greencard.

Im so tired of hearing them complain about fraud when its them who are defrauding people because they have one over the alien.

There is a saying that you can do as much as you want but not as long as you want.Its time these US sposes stop crying FOWL.

I don't want to generalize all the USC men or women who marry a non-USC person, yet, I've seen many of them who want the foreign spouse to be nothing but a servant, a piece of possession they've invested some thousand dollars in and now it's time for them to get it back. "Serve me, obey me or you'll send you back home." Or "no matter how bad I treat you here you still luck out, you live better here than you did in your home country."

We, the foreign spouses, wouldn't mind leaving the US if we hadn't given up everything, job, house, bachelorhood, or barcherettehood, many opportunities to come here to share our life with you. Entering a marriage is not like going to a bowling game, if the game is not so much fun, ok, we'll quit and go home.

There are many reasons for a marriage to not work. But once it falls apart, the only excuse the USC spouse resorts to is "h/she scammed me into marrying him/her and now h/she leaves me!" Oh really? So you were naive like an angel! Angels don't complain or try to hurt anybody.

I do believe that things like that do happen somewhere sometimes, yet, they don't happen to every marriage, which the foreign spouse (has to or chooses to) get out of.

Being bitter and vindictive doesn't make anyone happy, especially immediately after a failed marriage.

Edited September 15, 2012 by noname0

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various reasons, some of them were uprooted from their country, they left their jobs sold their belongings etc, and some are from poverty stricken countries, and see it better to make a life here than to go back

True but life is a risk. One of my most favorite VJers (she doesn't know it) but she went back home to Australia when her marriage ended. Clearly that is someone that American wasn't a golden Geese but merely a place where her love lived.

I don't want to generalize all the USC men or women who marry a non-USC person, yet, I've seen many of them who want the foreign spouse to be nothing but a servant, a piece of possession they've invested some thousand dollars in and now it's time for them to get it back. "Serve me, obey me or you'll send you back home." Or "no matter how bad I treat you here you still luck out, you live better here than you did in your home country."

We, the foreign spouses, wouldn't mind leaving the US if we hadn't given up everything, job, house, bachelorhood, or barcherettehood, many opportunities to come here to share our life with you. Entering a marriage is not like going to a bowling game, if the game is not so much fun, ok, we'll quit and go home.

There are many reasons for a marriage to not work. But once it falls apart, the only excuse the USC spouse resorts to is "h/she scammed me into marrying him/her and now h/she leaves me!" Oh really? So you were naive like an angel! Angels don't complain or try to hurt anybody.

I do believe that things like that do happen somewhere sometimes, yet, they don't happen to every marriage, which the foreign spouse (has to or chooses to) get out of.

Being bitter and vindictive doesn't make anyone happy, especially immediately after a failed marriage.

Oh please stop it.

Edited September 15, 2012 by Gowon

[noname0 6]

"Being bitter and vindictive doesn't make anyone happy, especially immediately after a failed marriage."

Oh please stop it.

Gowon, I didn't know I was talking about you.

Anyway, everyone has their own opinion. Opinions are different. And stories have sides. If you have too much time on your hands, there are better things to do than sitting in front of the computer all the day long, checking www.visajourney.com every 2 seconds, judging who is right, who is wrong, telling this person to shut up, ordering that person to think like you. One of the good things to do is helping your spouse with the housework to make your marriage even happier.

Edited September 15, 2012 by noname0